Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Runningart2004 wrote:

By and large the American people are slow witted, uneducated, and gullible.

Not really. In fact we've never been wealthier and more educated in the history of the country. It has much more to do with the construction of these sorts of super identities built on highly intractable issues or traditional identities with political affiliation serving as the base.

For example, you might have something like "I like the Democratic party but I'm a Christian and I just have to vote Republican" (btw please do not @ me with some anecdote of a person you know who's a Christian and votes Democrat because this is just an example and you all know what I mean). In the past, being a Christian was it's own identity, free of politics. Then it got absorbed, like many others, in to a political party affiliation.

Flagpole wrote:

agip wrote:

the scariest part of all this is not trump - he's told us for years that he's not in favor of democracy.

the scariest part is that the R party so quickly admitted that it's not in favor of democracy and would be fine with getting rid of it. Maybe just this once, amirite, Rs?

They [Republicans] hate immigrants (except the white ones; they tolerate them). They hate people who aren't white. They couldn't care less about fiscal responsibility or the rule of law. They hate the First Amendment. They couldn't care about the lives of Americans if they aren't fetuses (and even then, they don't give a sh!t...just a way to keep their thumb on women). The GOP has devolved under Trump to be just a bunch of miserable pieces of sh!it.

This post is so outrageously ignorant, it doesn’t even warrant a response from me. I’ll pass on this pile of steaming sh!t.

Racket wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

By and large the American people are slow witted, uneducated, and gullible.

Not really. In fact we've never been wealthier and more educated in the history of the country. It has much more to do with the construction of these sorts of super identities built on highly intractable issues or traditional identities with political affiliation serving as the base.

For example, you might have something like "I like the Democratic party but I'm a Christian and I just have to vote Republican" (btw please do not @ me with some anecdote of a person you know who's a Christian and votes Democrat because this is just an example and you all know what I mean). In the past, being a Christian was it's own identity, free of politics. Then it got absorbed, like many others, in to a political party affiliation.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone exactly...I'd just add that my preferred way to look at America is that it is

1/3 Enlightenment

1/3 Yahoo

1/3 Apathetic

And such as it has ever been. The battle among the three explains a lot of US history, esp its black blots.

Banned in 60 Seconds wrote:

Trump knows that New York state prosecutors are going to pounce the moment he is no longer President. He's terrified! No pardon, self granted or provided by a new POTUS, can save his fat dimpled sorry ___ from that fate. He, his family, and their precious brand are all going to be destroyed in the coming year.

Yeah, I THINK this is correct. It might take a little longer than a year, but it wouldn't surprise me if some of this stuff is moved on quickly. For the good of the country, he needs to be prosecuted for his crimes...FELONY campaign finance law violations, VERY LIKELY bank fraud, tax fraud, and insurance fraud, and even money laundering. His idiot children need to be taken down with him.

In a just world, as Mueller said he could be, Trump would be prosecuted for Obstruction of Justice when he's out of office. Of course he could do that resign thing so Pence can pardon him, or even do a brief 25th Amendment thing and let Pence pardon him then. We will see how that all goes. I do think state charges are going to stick though...Mueller-originating.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

As usual, Trump is undermining himself.

All this talk of him running again in 2024 will prevent any prosecutor from saying 'oh heck let's just let it go - he's out of office.'

Instead it will put a fire under NYS prosecutors to get it done before the 2024 campaign starts, so it doesn't look political.

agip wrote:

solid essay here- it's main argument is that Dems should welcome all these lawsuits.

First, because when they all fail it will prove that Trump lost the election fairly and squarely. Without the lawsuits, Rs would have an easy time declaring the elections fraudulent. But here, we have proof the elections were fine.

Second, because the shoe will be on the other foot at some point, and here the Dems can point to precedent. If there is material voter suppression in GA in January (and oh man yes there will be), then the Dems may be starting court procedings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/11/12/lawsuits-trump-election-false-claims/

I agree with all that. Bring on the lawsuits. Count the votes several times. I couldn't care less. Biden won this election. Trumpers lost and are by definition losers.

1) Americans are ignorant and gullible...and this involves people on both sides. A MUCH larger percentage of them on the Republican side though...they were all conned by a conman.

2) I'm not on board with your thought that Democrats would elect Martin Sheen or some other liberal celebrity with no experience. I'd have to see that first to believe it. Democrats in general are too smart for that.

3) On the Biden thing, I also disagree. He's old, yes, but he's a good decent man, and that's what people were voting for. He just ran up to the podium to make his victory speech. He's hardly held together by string. Old yes. Still physically able and still mentally able.

4) I agree that we deserve Biden...a decent man who respects the rule of law and our troops. We DESERVE that.

agip wrote:

how do you explain the increased support for Trump in 2020 among hispanics and black voters?

Not just Cubans in FL...in TX and NYC too.

First, we need to point out that Biden seemingly won an easy majority of those voters.

Your question is why wasn't the margin greater.

Part of the answer is in your question - not just Cubans.

Hispanics are more diverse than white people and the definition is very broad and inclusive.

Democrats need to look deeper into how they campaigned. How they waited until late in the campaign to reach out to them.

They should have been cultivating their support form the beginning.

Trump campaigned on the wall which was obviously an anti Hispanic dog whistle.

Then he kept talking about caravans of Spanish speaking people trying to get through our southern border.

Democrats needed to align themselves better with how the Hispanic American cultures felt about that.

Many of the established Hispanic population are conservative by nature and Republicans appeal

to that aspect of their life.

Overall, I still don't think voter turnout is what it should have been.

Biden should have gotten over 80 million votes.

I am sure a lot of people didn't apply to receive their mail in ballots and didn't bother to show up on election day.

Now, Biden 2020 did get more votes than Trump 2016 in both Florida and Texas.

Give the Trump team some credit for getting voters to come out.

Smorbun wrote:

C bus wrote:

Not Sally.

FLOJO, DO AN IP CHECK AND IF I AM NOT SALLY, BAN FLAGPOLE FOR LIFE!!!!

No, you are Sally.

And you are Flagpole. So what?

Dan Kahneman wrote:

agip wrote:

the scariest part of all this is not trump - he's told us for years that he's not in favor of democracy.

the scariest part is that the R party so quickly admitted that it's not in favor of democracy and would be fine with getting rid of it. Maybe just this once, amirite, Rs?

I agree with this. The Republicans who have bowed down and enabled Trump disgust me more than Trump. They know better. I see Trump as a pathologically disturbed individual. We knew who he was and he can be no different. The Republican mass show of cowardice and the selling out of values disturbs me more.

They allowed Trump to be Trump.

Agree with you both.

Trump may drop dead next year. Trumpism may only be getting started.

I'd add three things:

1) the popular vote is still being counted...big population centers are still counting. So the total numbers of votes will rise.

2) For whatever weird reasons, Biden did not click with some Hispanics. During the primary Bernie figured that out and had a massive outreach that was successful. Maybe Bernie turned Hispanics off Biden or maybe there's some cultural thing that I don't understand going on.

3) Rs focused an enormous, enormous amount of lies about Biden, to hispanics. In Spanish and English. Adverts. Many of these voters are low-information voters (like many trump voters of all races) and apparently it worked. More Republican desecration of America.

agip wrote:

As usual, Trump is undermining himself.

All this talk of him running again in 2024 will prevent any prosecutor from saying 'oh heck let's just let it go - he's out of office.'

Instead it will put a fire under NYS prosecutors to get it done before the 2024 campaign starts, so it doesn't look political.

Trump will is not actually be running again for office again. The agony of being a loser again will be too much for him to bear. Instead, he is going back to his early 2016 game plan. Dupe people into sending him 'donations'. He needs at least one billion dollars to make ends meets . . . err, to run again. . . . And he can still collect 'donations' even if he is prosecuted, arrested and jailed -- win, win, win!

L L wrote:

Trump campaigned on the wall which was obviously an anti Hispanic dog whistle.

Then he kept talking about caravans of Spanish speaking people trying to get through our southern border.

In the run up to the 2020 election Trump was relatively subdued on immigration and borders. I think that rhetoric worked against the Republicans in the 2018 midterm. Also the pandemic and resultant economic impact were foremost in everybody's mind.

Biden will end up with 81-82 million votes and 5-6 million more than Trump.

Sally Vix wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Collusion is not a legal term. The Mueller report said no conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia. Dems did not accept 2016 election. Did Adam schiff accept? Did chuck schumer accept? Jerry nadler? Nancy pelosi?

Did Flagpole accept?

Flagpole is a guy who posts on a running forum he is not the Dems. Your original claim was wide of the mark and you’ve been shown up.

It is NOT the same on both sides.

Martin Sheen nor anyone like him have not run, let alone got enough support to win the primaries, to then win a presidential election and then have the entire Dem party bow down to Sheens every command. An absolute nonsense comparison that you made up in your imagination.

Bernie is a proper politician and a decent human being so again it is a BS Bernie also did not win enough to support in the primaries nor have the entire Dem party rolled over for him.

What exactly was your point again?

Gina wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

Did Flagpole accept?

Flagpole is a guy who posts on a running forum he is not the Dems. Your original claim was wide of the mark and you’ve been shown up.

Also, I accepted Trump's victory. I NEVER said he was an illegitimate President. I have never uttered the phrase, "He's not MY President". The very day after Trump was elected, I posted on here a congratulations to him. I have 100% accepted his win as President. Being for investigating him when there was evidence to do so and being for impeaching him because he committed an impeachable act is NOT not accepting his election.

So, where is that Rigged SOB?

What a f*ckin' loser. Of course he wouldn't come back and take his lumps.

Also, any of you a$$holes who say you are him, I will only accept that if you prove it and log on as him...otherwise, I call BS to that.

1) Log on as the name you say you are.

2) Say that you are also Rigged.

3) Log on as Rigged and take your lumps.

Sans the above, just BS.

Racket wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

By and large the American people are slow witted, uneducated, and gullible.

Not really. In fact we've never been wealthier and more educated in the history of the country. It has much more to do with the construction of these sorts of super identities built on highly intractable issues or traditional identities with political affiliation serving as the base.

For example, you might have something like "I like the Democratic party but I'm a Christian and I just have to vote Republican" (btw please do not @ me with some anecdote of a person you know who's a Christian and votes Democrat because this is just an example and you all know what I mean). In the past, being a Christian was it's own identity, free of politics. Then it got absorbed, like many others, in to a political party affiliation.

In your example, those who do that are stupid.