Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Trollminator wrote:

Racket wrote:

I'd like a fact check on that please because I have doubts that it's true. A quick check shows Taft and John Quincy Adams may be exceptions to this

I supposed I have to be careful with any "facts" reported by FOX, but here:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-would-be-first-president-lose-reelection-despite-high-ratings-economy

Pretty sure this isn't true for all of US history, but it does check out for modern times - sort of. I'm curious why they give Trump a "high ratings economy" when we're in a recession. That's not a high rating by any stretch of the imagination not matter how you slice it.

Anyways, I'm no history expert, but it looks like John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Taft (I think) had fairly strong economies, and also perhaps the whole Grover Cleveland/ Benjamin Harrison ordeal too.

Haven't done a super deep dive into it though

In my defense, Sally Vix literally advertises and offers himself up as a punching bag.

Fat hurts wrote:

It seems viewers are moving from Fox to Newsmax in huge numbers.

I remember right after Trump won in 2016, MSNBC got a huge ratings boost. I think liberals were tuning in just to find out if everything was going to be all right. MSNBC responded with coverage of the resistance movement, such as the women's march and Indivisible.

A similar thing is happening in conservative media. But it's not solace or action that conservatives are pining for. Conservative viewers are desperate to escape to a different reality. Instead, of "Please tell me how we can fix this", conservatives are saying, "Please lie to me so I will feel better."

I rarely post links, but I found this phenomenon to be fascinating, so I recommend it:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/12/media/fox-news-newsmax-reliable-sources/index.html

I hope I'm wrong, but I foresee further civil unrest and divide moving forward. Things might be so bad now that a civil war might be unavoidable. This thing about conservatives saying, "Please lie to me so I will feel better" is a very real problem. Trump was good at that and I think many of the more impressionable ones would go to war for him if he asked.

srtrt wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Unfortunately I have found that at least half the populous is stupid and needs to have things repeated often several times to even have a glimmer of a chance of understanding it.

*populace

I generally avoid the grammarnazi stuff, but if you're going to call out others' lack of intelligence or education you should probably double-check your own comments before posting.

You are right! I typed the wrong word in there (I actually do that often...typos or just the wrong word or misspelled word due to fast typing). So, I was WRONG to use that incorrect word. For that I apologize unreservedly.

srtrt wrote:

showing page wrote:

populous : dense population

populace : the entire population

So, populous is correct: at least half the is DENSE. And you, Sally, are a charter member of the DENSE team.

FYI: grammarnazi is not a word. Try "grammar nazi" with a space.

1) Nope, sorry, I'm not SV. In fact, I'm about as far from SV as one can be.

2) "Populous" is an adjective. FP's use of it was nonstandard.

pop·u·lous

/ˈpäpyələs/ adjective

having a large population; densely populated.

"the populous city of Shanghai"

3) Both "grammarnazi" and "grammar nazi" [NB: The "nazi" is usually capitalized.] are in current use. I went with the former because I thought LRC might not permit the appearance of "Nazi" by itself.

I agree. I used the wrong word. I did mean "populace". I have never said I was perfect, and I ALWAYS admit when I am wrong, and, I have a long history of doing so, regardless of what anyone else says. For using that wrong word I apologize unreservedly.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Unfortunately, I need to keep an eye on you stupid people.

C bus wrote:

Either way, you’ve definitely got some Trump in you.

You know who has some Trump in them? At least one porn star and several unwilling women.

Flagpole wrote:

C bus wrote:

Sad.

I actually feel for you Flagpole. That’s really sad that you feel you have to do something to “counteract” what anonymous posters have posted on a message board.

If this board affects you that much, perhaps it would be wise to take some time away from the board and re-prioritize your life. Determine what’s really important and cut out things have have such a negative impact on your personal life.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Unfortunately, I need to keep an eye on you stupid people.

Pretty much every one of us "stupid people" knows when to use "populous" and when to use "populace.". Maybe we aren't so stupid after all?

agip wrote:

How many people do you all think the Trump campaign has killed? Hundreds? Thousands?

Dolts. Evil dolts.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1326935589208403968?s=20

TENS of thousands minimum. The problem is that this virus has kept up due in large part to Trump's minimizing it and politicizing it, so even after he is out of office, there will be people who are infected and die with a chain trace that goes back to some Trumper dumb@ss who didn't wear a mask because Der Trump made fun of those who did.

Racket wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

I supposed I have to be careful with any "facts" reported by FOX, but here:

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-would-be-first-president-lose-reelection-despite-high-ratings-economy

Pretty sure this isn't true for all of US history, but it does check out for modern times - sort of. I'm curious why they give Trump a "high ratings economy" when we're in a recession. That's not a high rating by any stretch of the imagination not matter how you slice it.

Anyways, I'm no history expert, but it looks like John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Taft (I think) had fairly strong economies, and also perhaps the whole Grover Cleveland/ Benjamin Harrison ordeal too.

Haven't done a super deep dive into it though

You and Trollminator are talking about two different things. He is talking about the people's "rating" of economy, not the actual economy itself.

The presidential opinion poll started in 1916 (by the now infamous Literary Digest), and Gallup did the first poll in 1936. So we don't know how the voters rated the economy in 1912 (let alone earlier). The actual economy was okay, but not great in 1912. You can look at the historical unemployment data on page 31 (Table 9) below.

The closing value of DJIA at the end of 1912 was 2% higher than it was at the end of 1908. (S&P 500 did not exist back then.)

Makes sense regrading public opinion then. Thanks for the data!

Oops. The pdf file did not upload. This is the paper I tried to link.

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/261361

That is correct. Most humans need to vent like that. I do not, but I am not like most humans in that way. I just post for truth and justice and call people out when they are borish or wrong. I have an inner peace that doesn't require venting ever. BUT, again, you are CORRECT in your assessment of the vast majority of humans. Before someone accuses me of being high and mighty here, it's not necessarily a good thing. I am just different from most humans in this way. I do not require venting, ever. I am a much worse artist than all of you, so I know where my failings are.

CircusClowns wrote:

I think many of the more impressionable ones would go to war for him if he asked.

I think you are absolutely right.

The only saving grace is that starting a civil war doesn't help Trump financially, nor does it stroke his ego (I hope).

Funniest post of ALL-TIME!! Flagpole has an "inner peace" where he doesn't have to "vent" like most mortals. Yet he is the ONLY one here who called me outrageously stupid 10,000 times, called Rigged outrageously stupid 8,000 times and called Igy outrageously stupid 5,000 times with a bunch of MOTHER FU**"CKRS thrown in for good measure.

Flagpole wrote:

agip wrote:

How many people do you all think the Trump campaign has killed? Hundreds? Thousands?

Dolts. Evil dolts.

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1326935589208403968?s=20

TENS of thousands minimum. The problem is that this virus has kept up due in large part to Trump's minimizing it and politicizing it, so even after he is out of office, there will be people who are infected and die with a chain trace that goes back to some Trumper dumb@ss who didn't wear a mask because Der Trump made fun of those who did.

Covid outbreak is spiking at an alarming rate and rising. Current Administration is largely silent.

Let that sink in.

Is Trump out playing golf? Consumed in laughable voter fraud claims? Or just sulking to the point of inaction?

Unprecedented.

We have been abandoned by this administration and Trump in particular.

I am outraged and this should not be allowed to continue, even for two plus months.

Regarding the enthusiasm gap, I have never in my life seen celebrations following a US election like we saw this past Saturday when the call was made and Biden was projected to be President Elect.

Times Square packed like it was VE Day 1945. Here in my small suburban town, I immediately heard the car horns honking shortly after networks made their call. Celebrations continued throughout the day. Towns closed off streets downtown and had block parties. Seriously, they did.

Trump supporters currently in denial have to see and recognize all that. Even if there was low enthusiasm for Biden, there was huge huge enthusiasm against Trump. People reacted like they were just liberated from occupation.

You guys keep looking under rocks for some sliver of "evidence" to confirm your views. Look at the forest! A clear majority wanted Trump out and they turned out in droves to vote him out. That carried over into the blue wall swing states that Trump had flipped in 2016. There's no evidence of significant fraud and there's overwhelming evidence that a majority wanted him gone. Just open your eyes and face reality.

Yeah, pretty much no one gets me. Sometimes people call me an attention whore, and then at other times they say (like they did right after the election), "Where did Flagpole go"?

I take big chunks of time away from this site when nothing interesting is going on. I knew Biden was going to end up winning the election even before the morning of Nov. 4 after I started seeing the returns come in and while it was still looking bad (from a put numbers standpoint) for him. I just didn't need or want to read all of the Rigged and Sally nonsense about how Trump was going to win. If I wanted attention, I could have come in and gloated for days after the election. I didn't.

Here is the thing about me...I have a boring job (I work for myself). It makes me good money and it is extremely flexible and recession proof, but it's not exciting. I work from home, and often I need to monitor some server processes that I have kicked off (so that I can recommend manufacturing software to my clients), so I need to be on my computer. I can only play so many online video games, and as much as I enjoy playing my guitar and piano, a couple hours total each day is usually enough for me. So, I come here. I posted more about running when I was a more active runner than I am today, but I have a couple other topics that I enjoy...stocks/personal finance, and politics. I so owned the stock thread long ago that I don't usually post there anymore, and now with this election and the coming legal trouble for Trump and his idiot children, I will have done so again here. I will stick around until that victory is clear, and then I will move on to another topic. Could be more politics if something interesting is going on, or perhaps music this time...who knows. We will see. If there's nothing interesting going on at Letsrun, then I won't post at all.

Ok, but in what world is, “I have a penis but I identify as a female, so please refer to me as a woman and allow me to participate in women’s sports” NOT the same as “please lie to me so I will feel better” ?

Or, “I am irresponsible with birth control and so going to pay someone with a surgical knife to murder this 20 week baby, but please call it “termination” and “my woman’s right” instead of murder for hire”