The Trials and Tribulations of Running YouTubers

dopers wrote:

Man__Moth wrote:

Can you fill us in on what's occupying so much time if you don't have a family to support and you're not working full time?

There's 110 waking hours in a week (give or take), and I'm guessing based on your ability, you're spending no more than 10 hours running. So, what are you doing with the other 100 hours that's making training so hard to fit in?

In general, I don't think the issue is people deprioritizing anything particularly important. Some people are just better at being organised, not procrastinating or wasting time on their phones.

I think we might be talking past each other a bit. It’s not just about “fitting in 10 hours of running.” At a certain level, the stress isn’t just the time on your feet. It’s the recovery, sleep, food timing, mobility, managing niggles, staying off your feet when you can, and just the general fatigue that carries over into the rest of your life. The workouts might be 8–10 hours. The lifestyle impact is more than that.
Also, I probably shouldn’t have used my own time as if it’s objectively “fast.” It’s fast FOR ME. It took me a long time to grind down to low-36s, and I’m not some high-talent guy cruising off 50 mpw. I’ve had to squeeze a lot out of what I’ve got. So when we’re talking about women running 2:40, that’s on a completely different level from me.
If it’s taken this much structure and intent for me to get to ~36 for 10K, I have a hard time believing someone running 2:40 with a full-time job and family isn’t making trade-offs somewhere. Maybe they’re extremely organized. Maybe they’re genetically gifted. Probably both. But there’s still a cost, even if it’s not obvious from the outside.
I know it's not impossible. But it isn't the norm either, and it’s not some productivity hacks. High performance almost always means something else is getting less time, less energy, or less attention, at least for a period of time. I will end with this:
Being organized doesn’t run 2:40. Plenty of organized people never sniff that. At some point you have to prioritize training, and prioritizing something by definition means other things move down the list. You don’t get that level of performance by just “using your time better.”

Running sore wrote:

Brightonhobbyjoger wrote:

Looks like Jake blew up if you look at the splits the last few miles. Absolutely pointless run for a serious runner coming off an injury concern 😂

Say what you like about the guy but he should take a leaf out of Hugo Fry’s book. He was running stupid workouts/mileage while self-coached and being wildly inconsistent. He starts working with a coach and starts progressing (shock) and has now arguably surpassed RTJ. I don’t know any serious runner who has goals of representing their country who doesn’t have a coach.

I think he ran hard for HM and then cruised to 30km. If that counts as blow up then fair enough. Everyone goes on about him getting a coach but that's precisely what he's been trying to do: join a team with a coach. Looks like he's landed one and was hinting about announcing it in a couple of weeks.

He's the one runner I follow cos he's funny, driven, intelligent, and culturally sensitive.

I find the hate on here very strange as half of it seems to be from people that don't actually watch his vids or really follow him so make irrelevant or factually incorrect statements.

I thought I might find other runners to follow on here but the level of vitriol towards everyone makes it tough to actually make out who's interesting so will have to do my own research rather than rely on this forum which seems like a bitchfest which is such a shame.☹️

S. Canaday wrote:

Alright. I've been having a day. [But can you guys tell me this post by Kofuzi...which was originally on Threads]... isn't a bit kinda like creating more division between all runners? Is he joking here?

I think people had pointed out Des Linden had just won Disney (the Hansons and Brooks have/had a very long history with that race actually....it was on our Brooks bonus contract when we raced it).

Granted I consider myself more of a "influencer-coach-sponsored hobby jogger" nowadays (and I never was really a salary based top "pro road marathoner" for Brooks), but in my limited experience pro-sponsored road runners are generally really fighting at the competitive margins when they compete. They seek out big prize money and appearance fees and that usually only comes from big competitive races where place greatly matters and the competition is high. It's a "high pressure" environment and they've dedicated their lives and careers to performing near their full potential on razor thin margins. They've earned their spot "to start at the Front of the line."

Now say that pro runner wants a "fun run" or "tune-up race" like Disney or Honolulu (or a local 5km for charity)? Let them have it! We're all people and runners here. Just because Mike wants to place better and try to win (or considers a race for himself to be a "destination" or "vacation" event from his perspective) doesn't mean it's not going to be competitive sometimes. Too bad!

And I think the real irony is as an "influencer runner-content creator" Mike himself as undoubtable benefiting from certain "elite perks" (that he mentions) like special entry to marathon majors and a "special warm-up area" and "nice starting line position" for his illegal selfie stick. We also don't care that we have "our names on our bibs instead of a number" smh....

I mean I am being out of line here?

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HarderIsSmarter wrote:

LazyMerkins wrote:

On RTJ’s live stream he was asked about what would be the bigger celebration between him going 2:09 and Arsenal winning the quad. I was surprised it wasn’t edited out of the stream, but in a moment of unfiltered honesty, he said “they are equally long shots”. Then he starts spluttering trying to correct himself. So all this self promotion goes against what he thinks when it’s unfiltered. 28:45 on the stream.

Have you ever watched RTJ before? When has he ever said running 2:09 is going to be easy?

Throughout his videos he couldn’t make it more clear that it’s an extremely difficult goal. That’s the whole point, it’s a challenge. He doesn’t know if it’s possible but that’s why he’s training the way he is and willing to give it absolutely everything to see where his physical limit is.

It’s comical how clueless some of these armchair warriors are.

HarderIsSmarter wrote:

LazyMerkins wrote:

On RTJ’s live stream he was asked about what would be the bigger celebration between him going 2:09 and Arsenal winning the quad. I was surprised it wasn’t edited out of the stream, but in a moment of unfiltered honesty, he said “they are equally long shots”. Then he starts spluttering trying to correct himself. So all this self promotion goes against what he thinks when it’s unfiltered. 28:45 on the stream.

Have you ever watched RTJ before? When has he ever said running 2:09 is going to be easy?

Throughout his videos he couldn’t make it more clear that it’s an extremely difficult goal. That’s the whole point, it’s a challenge. He doesn’t know if it’s possible but that’s why he’s training the way he is and willing to give it absolutely everything to see where his physical limit is.

It’s comical how clueless some of these armchair warriors are.