Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

EPlC Flagpole wrote:

You continue to increase your level of silliness. You are such a silly man.

^HI HardLoper!!

lalaland wrote:

Didn't realize you were a religious zealot, Flagpole.

I am not, and not sure what I wrote to make you think that, but I submit that you misunderstood.

The bookmakers (no bias involved) put the betting odds of Trump finishing his four years as the long shot.

Those guys are pretty accurate.

Flagpole wrote:

What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.

Flagpole has spoken

HardLoper wrote:.

How did that ACA healthcare elimination--the reason you voted for tRump--turn out for you? How about locking Hillary up? Or that worthless wall that Trump stated could be gone over with a rope?

I don't get this whole wall thing. Trump was going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it. This was a huge crowd pleaser and he often repeated it.

Now Trump suggests if CONGRESS (USA taxpayers) don't pay for the wall he will shut the government down?

I thought presidents fight hard to avoid a government shutdown.

What's wrong with this guy?

Patients FAGpole we will have President Pence come 2024. 😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂😆😂😆❗️❗️❗️

Just read an article at 538 about what factors influence Trump's approval rating.

I believe the confrontation over the the border wall is Trump's most important fight yet.

Things that we already know about Trump don't move the ratings much. For instance, Trump didn't lose much ground over Charlottesville because we already knew how he felt about white supremacy. So when he seemed to give political cover to the KKK and Nazis, that was not unexpected. It didn't change how you felt about the man.

But when he breaks big promises, that causes his approval to plummet. The best example is the failure to repeal and replace Obamacare. A lot of supporters abandoned him after that.

This takes us to the fight over the wall. This is Trump's signature issue. If Trump caves on the wall, he will be weakened significantly. It's hard to say in real terms how much he will lose because his approval is so close to his floor right now.

But I'm betting there is a significant number of Trump supporters who feel the same way as Ann Coulter, who said in June, "Today's BORDER WALL CONSTRUCTION UPDATE: Miles completed yesterday--Zero; Miles completed since Inauguration--Zero. NEXT UPDATE TOMORROW."

The natives are already restless.

You guys are delusional. It gets worse everyday. I just read an article and there is nothing. Someone trying to arrange a meeting between 2 world leaders, one being a presidential candidate of the US, is wrong? Are you guys insane?Stop reading that CNN crap. It is bad for your brain. I wish I had not clicked on it.

eric a blair wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians. What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.

note that trujmp can only receive a presidential pardon for federal crimes - and NYS is hard at work investigating him. Just saying.

The liberals don't understand Trump's voters. Instead of listening to a liberal site, you should try to listen to Trump voters. Doesn't that make sense to you?That 538 site is wrong. Their models are wrong. They failed to predict (biggly) Trump's presidency, and his primary win.Trump is trying to do what he claims he was going to do. As long as he keeps trying he will not loose support. It is congress (the one with the power) that can not get it done.The more the media goes after him, the more his supporters will dig in. From the liberal point of view, it is counter productive to bash him like they do. You can learn a lot from Little Red Riding Hood.

sorry, too late. Trump has already lost support.Among repubs, his support fell from 90% to around 75%. Among independents, his support fell from around 42% to 29%Among Dems it fell from 13% to 8%Overall, from 45 down to 37. Dozens of corporations quit his councils to avoid being seen to support him.Around 10 republican US senators have publicly rebuked himNot sure you read the news, but this is the most disastrous presidency in 100 years. Maybe you live in Wyoming and have never met a Democrat, i don't know.

itsbaddude wrote:

Trump is trying to do what he claims he was going to do. As long as he keeps trying he will not loose support.

Release his tax returns?

Special prosecutor on Clinton?

Make Mexico pay for wall?

Not cut Medicare at all?

Working so hard that he has no time to play golf?

Fat hurts wrote:

This takes us to the fight over the wall. This is Trump's signature issue. If Trump caves on the wall, he will be weakened significantly. It's hard to say in real terms how much he will lose because his approval is so close to his floor right now.

But I'm betting there is a significant number of Trump supporters who feel the same way as Ann Coulter, who said in June, "Today's BORDER WALL CONSTRUCTION UPDATE: Miles completed yesterday--Zero; Miles completed since Inauguration--Zero. NEXT UPDATE TOMORROW."

The natives are already restless.

remember that amazing transcript about the wall, Trump talking to the Mexican prez. How Trump begged the Mexican not to keep talking about the wall, because Trump knew his base really wanted the wall....and it ain't happening.

"you had me at wall" is a real read of trumpers.. When it doesn't get built....that will peel off some deplorables.

the odds wrote:

I don't get this whole wall thing. Trump was going to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it. This was a huge crowd pleaser and he often repeated it.

Now Trump suggests if CONGRESS (USA taxpayers) don't pay for the wall he will shut the government down?

I thought presidents fight hard to avoid a government shutdown.

What's wrong with this guy?

THIS is the thing about him that makes you wonder what is wrong with him? At least you are on the right side of wondering what the hell is wrong with him. Trump appealed to eventual Trump voters (many of whom hadn't voted in years or even ever) by making enemies of Mexico, the media, whomever. They perceived that as strength and different from what they had seen before. Well, it wasn't strength, that's for sure. He lies about absolutely everything, so no one should be surprised that he lied about Mexico paying for his stupid wall. The VAST majority of illegals are here not because they crossed a border illegally, but because they overstayed visas. Anyone who voted for him was fooled big time, and anyone who continues to support him at this point is one of three things - a raging racist, mentally ill, or just flat out dumb as a stump.

...or they honestly think Democrats will destroy the country. But I suppose that would make them as dumb as stumps. So we're probably on the same page here.

I WISH all of what you wrote were true. The problem with Trump supporters is that he just blames every failure on other people, and they eat that up, because they blame their lot in life on other people. Blames McCain for not passing health care bill. Blames McConnell. Blames Ryan. Certainly not Trump's fault according to Trump. When Obama was pitching Obamacare, he went around the country giving very detailed info about the ACA, getting people on board. Trump didn't do any of that...because he's not a leader. Even with the border wall...if it doesn't get built, he will blame Congress. That is RIDICULOUS, but he will do it, and his supporters will fall in lock step. Doesn't matter that he said Mexico would pay for it and now he wants taxpayers to pay for it.

Since Bernie is too old probably to run again, it is still a risk to have Trump run for President again. Not sure which Democrat would run against him, and because he's so bombastic, Trump whips up free advertising for himself because the press he so hates just can't not cover him...and he always gets top billing because he's so freakin' crazy.

While the people (number of voters) have already rejected Trump, the fact is that he could win the electoral college again (the economy is pretty good right now, and that always helps a sitting president).

The best chance of getting Trump out of office is the fact that he continues to alienate his political allies. McConnell and Ryan are already mad at him, and more and more sitting Republicans have expressed their concerns about him. If Mueller gives them even the smallest reason to seriously consider impeachment, they will begin to get behind that. When Trump sees the writing on the wall, he will resign. He has ZERO chance of finishing his first term as President. If he lasts 2 more years, I will be very surprised.

Yes, they might think that, but taking an unhinged Trump over the Democratic party does make them dumb as stumps, so yes, we are on the same page.

[quote]eric a blair wrote:

sorry, too late. Trump has already lost support.

Among repubs, his support fell from 90% to around 75%.

Among independents, his support fell from around 42% to 29%

Among Dems it fell from 13% to 8%

Overall, from 45 down to 37.

Dozens of corporations quit his councils to avoid being seen to support him.

Around 10 republican US senators have publicly rebuked him

Not sure you read the news, but this is the most disastrous presidency in 100 years.

Maybe you live in Wyoming and have never met a Democrat, i don't know.

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I definitely see all that, and to a reasonable thinking person, it would appear that Trump could not possibly win election again if he made it that far...oh, but I will never again underestimate the stupidity of a large portion of American voters. He said and did so many things during the campaign that would have sunk any other candidate, and yet here we are with the worst president in US history.

The working man (and woman) still has no other candidate to be their champion, and while I don't see how anything Trump has done has benefited their lives one bit, he just tells them he loves them, and they eat it up. They want an enemy, and he has given it to them...Mexicans and Muslims. Shameful of course, but that's the reality. As horrible as Trump is and has been as President, I would not be sure of a Trump defeat at this point in 2020.

Here's what I am sure about -- he won't get the chance. ZERO chance that he finishes his first term.

betting odds have it 50/50 that he'll make it til 12/31/19