Since we are using baseball metaphors, would you like a guy that hits 280 or a guy that hits 720 on your team?
Jeff Wigand wrote:
itsbaddude wrote:https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-is-just-a-normal-polling-error-behind-clinton/I claimed Nate was way off
He gave him a 1 in 3 chance in the end. The same chance that Bryce Harper will get a hit.
I don't know about people being fired because of their political views.
The issue is that people are being called out on how they demonstrate their views (marching with Nazi flags) and they are bringing bad press to their employer.
The employer is losing business because of the employee's actions.
It becomes a business decision to let the employee go.
In that case it's not because of their views but their actions that adversely affect business.
Now if someone was fired because they had a Trump sticker and it had no affect on business, that would be clearly wrong.
So we have this shutdown possibility coming...most likely trump is bluffing and won't shut down the goverment. But on the other hand, we know that he practically begged the Mexican prez to cut him some slack on teh wall - trump said something like 'this is the one thing I care about most'
So I'm hoping this happens:
The congress doesn't give him his stupid wall. Trump vetoes the bill, government is set for shutdown. In response, dems and reps get together and vote together on something. They override his veto. You know, bipartisan, like it's supposed to be.
That infuriates and emasculates trujmp so much that he quits.
This is my dream.
Most likely congress will throw a few hundred million at the problem and trump says well ok but I need more next time.
eric a blair wrote:
So we have this shutdown possibility coming...most likely trump is bluffing and won't shut down the goverment. But on the other hand, we know that he practically begged the Mexican prez to cut him some slack on teh wall - trump said something like 'this is the one thing I care about most'
So I'm hoping this happens:
The congress doesn't give him his stupid wall. Trump vetoes the bill, government is set for shutdown. In response, dems and reps get together and vote together on something. They override his veto. You know, bipartisan, like it's supposed to be.
That infuriates and emasculates trujmp so much that he quits.
This is my dream.
Most likely congress will throw a few hundred million at the problem and trump says well ok but I need more next time.
I'm not sure that Trump knows that Congress can override his veto.
Top Trump aide's email draws new scrutiny in Russia inquiry
eric a blair wrote:
So we have this shutdown possibility coming...most likely trump is bluffing and won't shut down the goverment. But on the other hand, we know that he practically begged the Mexican prez to cut him some slack on teh wall - trump said something like 'this is the one thing I care about most'
So I'm hoping this happens:
The congress doesn't give him his stupid wall. Trump vetoes the bill, government is set for shutdown. In response, dems and reps get together and vote together on something. They override his veto. You know, bipartisan, like it's supposed to be.
That infuriates and emasculates trujmp so much that he quits.
This is my dream.
Most likely congress will throw a few hundred million at the problem and trump says well ok but I need more next time.
You've proven to be quite the dreamer over the last 2 years. LOL
Putin+Trump wrote:
Top Trump aide's email draws new scrutiny in Russia inquiry
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/donald-trump-rick-dearborn-email-russia-investigation/index.html
OH NOOOOO!!
"Scrutiny," you say? Really?!! Oh man, Trump's SCREWED this time!!
Hahaha
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
When it comes to presidential elections, focus on the following:
IBD/TIPP
LA Times
Norpoth (only one miss in 1960, perfect since)
Cafepress culture barometer (perfect record)
13 Keys (Flagpole's favorite, until Trump pulled ahead in the metrics)
Everything else is unreliable, biased & oversampled dem BS.
Flagpole's 13 keys were correct, but he didn't have the intellectual integrity to answer the questions correctly. His hatred and bias overwhelmed his reason. When answered without political bias, the 13 keys pointed to a Trump win.
This is why I keep warning liberals that their view of the world is wrong and that one of the consequences is that they will not understand things that happen around them.
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Putin+Trump wrote:
Top Trump aide's email draws new scrutiny in Russia inquiry
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/donald-trump-rick-dearborn-email-russia-investigation/index.html
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Putin+Trump wrote:Top Trump aide's email draws new scrutiny in Russia inquiry
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/23/politics/donald-trump-rick-dearborn-email-russia-investigation/index.html
Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians. What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.
Flagpole wrote:
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Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians. What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.
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Flagpole wrote:
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Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians. What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.
note that trujmp can only receive a presidential pardon for federal crimes - and NYS is hard at work investigating him. Just saying.
eric a blair wrote:
note that trujmp can only receive a presidential pardon for federal crimes - and NYS is hard at work investigating him. Just saying.
Trump wants to test the theory that he can pardon himself. That won't legally fly. Trump's lawyers will make a mint failing to prove he can. And Trump will bill the entire expense to the government. A win-win as Trump sees the world. Even House of Cards has not thought of an episode as wild as what Trump will try; because it not believable.
eric a blair wrote:
Flagpole wrote:Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians. What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.
note that trujmp can only receive a presidential pardon for federal crimes - and NYS is hard at work investigating him. Just saying.
Well, that would be cool. When we have a (then former) president sitting in jail, I will believe it. Mostly I want him out of office because he is such a bad person incapable of the job. I don't want to be greedy though.
Flagpole wrote:
Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians. What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.
Nope. He'll pardon himself and blame it on fake news.
Is a likely criminal conviction enough to impeach? I don't know the answer. My guess is, probably not. I doubt there are enough Congressional votes.
My hope is he completes his term. Pence would be far, far worse.
Hopefully, the Democrats get their act together by then.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Flagpole wrote:Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians. What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.
Nope. He'll pardon himself and blame it on fake news.
Is a likely criminal conviction enough to impeach? I don't know the answer. My guess is, probably not. I doubt there are enough Congressional votes.
My hope is he completes his term. Pence would be far, far worse.
Hopefully, the Democrats get their act together by then.
I am no Pence fan, but he would be MUCH better than Trump. Pence is an idiot to be sure (young earther is all you need to know, but then he's got the conversion therapy thing going on too), but he will at least listen to others, take a measured approach to things and not constantly believe that his way is the only way. Trump is chaos personified. Pence is milquetoast.
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
Flagpole wrote:Sadly, I will be VERY surprised if Trump serves jail time though I definitely believe he deserves to...for his very likely criminal financial behavior (see Felix Sater) and for his likely involvement in collusion or at least attempted collusion with the Russians. What we will see though is a Trump who doesn't finish his first term...he will resign before it's over and blame everyone and their brother. ZERO chance he finishes his first term.
Nope. He'll pardon himself and blame it on fake news.
Is a likely criminal conviction enough to impeach? I don't know the answer. My guess is, probably not. I doubt there are enough Congressional votes.
My hope is he completes his term. Pence would be far, far worse.
Hopefully, the Democrats get their act together by then.
well, again, he can't get a presidential pardon if the indictment is from a state. Which it very well might be, since there is a very small chance Trump hasn't committed financial crimes in New York. The NYS AG is investigating, that's for sure.
Flagpole wrote:
pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:Nope. He'll pardon himself and blame it on fake news.
Is a likely criminal conviction enough to impeach? I don't know the answer. My guess is, probably not. I doubt there are enough Congressional votes.
My hope is he completes his term. Pence would be far, far worse.
Hopefully, the Democrats get their act together by then.
I am no Pence fan, but he would be MUCH better than Trump. Pence is an idiot to be sure (young earther is all you need to know, but then he's got the conversion therapy thing going on too), but he will at least listen to others, take a measured approach to things and not constantly believe that his way is the only way. Trump is chaos personified. Pence is milquetoast.
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Didn't realize you were a religious zealot, Flagpole.