Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

HI HARDLOPER!!! wrote:

Whoa Nellie wrote:

Jeez, do you make it your practice to be horribly, comically wrong?

HI HARDLOPER!!!

So, that would be a 'yes', then.

Got it.

Whoa Nellie wrote:

Got it.

^so easily triggered

So, let me get this straight:

Trump promises to build wall and to get Mexico to pay for it.

Mexico refuses to pay for it.

Trump tells Congress to fund wall or he'll shut the government down.

So, we could have a government shutdown because Trump lied and couldn't get Mexico to pay for the wall. Trump will then blame Congress for his own ineptitude.

foo wrote:

So, let me get this straight:

Trump promises to build wall and to get Mexico to pay for it.

Mexico refuses to pay for it.

Trump tells Congress to fund wall or he'll shut the government down.

So, we could have a government shutdown because Trump lied and couldn't get Mexico to pay for the wall. Trump will then blame Congress for his own ineptitude.

So?

This is Trump. Spouting nonsense and blaming others when he cannot deliver (or is simply proven wrong) is what he does.

So Manly wrote:

foo wrote:

So, let me get this straight:

Trump promises to build wall and to get Mexico to pay for it.

Mexico refuses to pay for it.

Trump tells Congress to fund wall or he'll shut the government down.

So, we could have a government shutdown because Trump lied and couldn't get Mexico to pay for the wall. Trump will then blame Congress for his own ineptitude.

So?

This is Trump. Spouting nonsense and blaming others when he cannot deliver (or is simply proven wrong) is what he does.

Typical over-compensation by a man with very small hands.

Small hands wrote:

So Manly wrote:

So?

This is Trump. Spouting nonsense and blaming others when he cannot deliver (or is simply proven wrong) is what he does.

Typical over-compensation by a man with very small hands.

This is kind of an aside but did you ever really look at Trump's hands? It really would be embarrassing to go through life with hands like that. They're almost freakishly tiny.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

To be clear, the President of the United States is about to use his first pardon on a person who systematically used his police department to detain people who were suspected of being illegal immigrants simply because they were Latino. Not only was immigration enforcement not his job, but he frequently detained legal citizens who had not committed a crime, he blatantly defied a federal court order to stop, and then he wasted tens of millions of taxpayer dollars defending himself.

Oh, and he ran a jail that he himself referred to as a "concentration camp." It was rife with human rights abuses and unexplained deaths, several of which resulted in lawsuits that were settled for millions of dollars. What a guy!

Sure. Trump is the classic fascist. "Law and Order" for you, whatever I want for me and my friends. I'm sure Trump is preparing to pardon himself should it ever come to it.

To be fair, Presidents of both parties pardon all kinds of people with "connections" and allegiances.

At some point this round of staff are going to get fired to shift blame off of himself like he's done with most of the firing. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for vaguely reasonable Republicans to stop blaming staff and start blaming Trump.

There is a 50% chance that you know what you are talking about. The comments about me not knowing points to the other 50%.I claimed Nate was way off, gave you proof (with numbers) and you insult me.

Fat hurts wrote:

You clearly don't understand probability and statistics. Take a class. It will open your eyes.

After that, you can examine Silver's methodology here. This is public though I don't think he has released the source code:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-users-guide-to-fivethirtyeights-2016-general-election-forecast/

itsbaddude wrote:

I'm going to burst your bubble again.

Nate Silver used his model and predicted Hillary would get 302 electoral votes. So instead of quoting nonsense, like Trump probably had a 28.6% chance of winning, use the actual meaning of the number. So yes, he was way off.

Nate Silver's methodology is not fully public. I have not idea what you mean you studied his methodology. You'd be better off claiming he predicted Obama's victory and that is why you like him.

Sam Wang is a scientist, not a political scientist, a real scientist.

Freedom of speech should be free, free as in having freedom.

Crime thoughts are not crimes. People should only be punished for breaking the law. The issue is more complicated with private companies. There are reasons why companies are not allowed to fire people for religious beliefs. Can a Muslim who attends a mosque where they advocate jihad be fired?

Imagine that someone went to the rally to protest the removal of the statue and ended up next to people of questionable characters. Should they loose their job?

Who makes the decision of what crosses the line of not?

What if a person has questionable views but does not act on them?

What if the person behaves normally at work but thinks like a Nazi in their private time?

What if the person voted for Trump and the mob thinks they are a Nazi?

What if someone is found out to have voted for Trump and goes and tells their employer they are a Nazi?

What if the Media gives a platform to Nazi, should they be shutdown?

What if you accuse someone falsely of being a Nazi, should you loose your job?

I'm sorry if you were insulted, but your "proof" is rubbish. Silver's model computes probabilities based on the survey data. To just say that his 302 was way off ignores any concept of statistical methods. If you look at his model, a 302 for Hillary was only one of many possible outcomes. Each outcome was assigned a probability. For almost all of these outcomes, the assigned probability was less than 1%. I could go on, but you get the idea. If you are going to say his methods are weak, you need to at least understand a little about how those methods are applied.I'm serious when I say that you should learn more math. It's very enlightening and empowering.

itsbaddude wrote:

There is a 50% chance that you know what you are talking about. The comments about me not knowing points to the other 50%.

I claimed Nate was way off, gave you proof (with numbers) and you insult me.

Fat hurts wrote:

You clearly don't understand probability and statistics. Take a class. It will open your eyes.

After that, you can examine Silver's methodology here. This is public though I don't think he has released the source code:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-users-guide-to-fivethirtyeights-2016-general-election-forecast/

Freedom of speech does not mean you have freedom from the consequences of your speech.

1. The Muslim who merely attends a jihad mosque probably has job protection as a member of a protected class. But any hint of jihad beliefs from that person could be grounds for dismissal.

2. If you are marching with Nazis then it is reasonable to assume that you share their beliefs. But even if you don't, you should be fired just for having the poor judgement to associate with scum.

3. An employer can decide. Then if the employee wants to sue he can try his luck in front of a jury.

4. Nobody is a mind reader.

5. Nobody is a mind reader.

6. Who is the mob?

7. They can and should be fired.

8. The media should be shut down? Generally, no. Should the platform be shut down? That's up to the media company.

9. Probably. But it's up to the employer.

itsbaddude wrote:

I claimed Nate was way off

He gave him a 1 in 3 chance in the end. The same chance that Bryce Harper will get a hit.

foo wrote:

So, let me get this straight:

Trump promises to build wall and to get Mexico to pay for it.

Mexico refuses to pay for it.

Trump tells Congress to fund wall or he'll shut the government down.

So, we could have a government shutdown because Trump lied and couldn't get Mexico to pay for the wall. Trump will then blame Congress for his own ineptitude.

Well put

But is there anything he could do that would upset his base?

They really wouldn't care about a government shutdown.

When it comes to presidential elections, focus on the following:

IBD/TIPP

LA Times

Norpoth (only one miss in 1960, perfect since)

Cafepress culture barometer (perfect record)

13 Keys (Flagpole's favorite, until Trump pulled ahead in the metrics)

Everything else is unreliable, biased & oversampled dem BS.

Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson.

Upsets happen

..uhm...well is not advocating that the government give out consequences But he is saying that those with intolerant views should get legal consequence from price sources (He was clear that he did not mean violence.)It's not a bad point. If I find out someone is a racist or neo-nazis I might decide to fire them. Uhm...well argues that society should do that and it's a good thing.Itsbaddude sees that as a slippery slop. People could get blackballed for political beliefs. What if my employee is a big trump fan, and since I don't like Trump and think trump is intolerant, I decide to fire the Trump supporter. I think most would agree that's unfair.Yes it is my legal right to fire an employee if I think he has political views showing intolerance. But is this a good thing to do? I am guessing it's not good for society. If his political belief interferes with his ability to perform his job that different.

He does this so frequently, one has to be careful not to get too complacent about this.Foo had a good post.

So Manly wrote:

foo wrote:

So, let me get this straight:

Trump promises to build wall and to get Mexico to pay for it.

Mexico refuses to pay for it.

Trump tells Congress to fund wall or he'll shut the government down.

So, we could have a government shutdown because Trump lied and couldn't get Mexico to pay for the wall. Trump will then blame Congress for his own ineptitude.

So?

This is Trump. Spouting nonsense and blaming others when he cannot deliver (or is simply proven wrong) is what he does.

Do any of you even run?

Do you even run, bro!?!?! wrote:

Do any of you even run?

They are libbbbtwats. They RUN from a fight, they RUN foreign objects up their a$$, they RUN from work, they RUN from responsibility, they RUN from paying their own bills.....libbbtwats🤦‍♂️