I don't think any of you guys understand what our true motive was. We wanted to try to tighten up the back end of our varsity team, so our coaches told us to go out in 5:30. This was so our back end runners could hold with the faster guys, and then when our faster guys sped up, we could hopefully push the back end to stick with them.
This whole strategy just sounds so silly.
As was said previously, there's a reason you don't see the top teams doing this.
I am sick of the message board absolutely HATING on kilbourne as a team.
Boo hoo hoo.
Not hating on them, it's just they haven't really shown us anything yet . . . and they especially didn't show us anything at the WN Invitational.
Respect has to be earned.
I think they ran pretty stupid at WN, but Kilbourne did win the state preview meet in convincing fashion and then beat Coffman and all others except WN the following week at Pickerington. And remember... Coffman just beat St X, Massilon J, Jerome, Orange, etc.
I'd say they've earned a fair measure of respect. But it doesnt mean they weren't stupid or coached to do stupid things last week.
Not hating on them, it's just they haven't really shown us anything yet . . . and they especially didn't show us anything at the WN Invitational.
Respect has to be earned.
I think they ran pretty stupid at WN, but Kilbourne did win the state preview meet in convincing fashion and then beat Coffman and all others except WN the following week at Pickerington. And remember... Coffman just beat St X, Massilon J, Jerome, Orange, etc.
I'd say they've earned a fair measure of respect. But it doesnt mean they weren't stupid or coached to do stupid things last week.
Yeah don’t hate on the runners, this decision was out of their control. They’ve earned a good amount of respect and have one of the highest ceilings out there. Just gotta leave it at that and let the season pan out.
but Kilbourne did win the state preview meet in convincing fashion and then beat Coffman and all others except WN the following week at Pickerington. And remember... Coffman just beat St X, Massilon J, Jerome, Orange, etc.
I'd say they've earned a fair measure of respect.
Point well taken.
So there is a fair amount of respect for WK already, and everyone is not hating on them as was claimed. Good to see.
But that makes this strategy even weirder. WK got off to a good start, so why disrupt that momentum coming into September? Keep it rolling well into November.
but Kilbourne did win the state preview meet in convincing fashion and then beat Coffman and all others except WN the following week at Pickerington. And remember... Coffman just beat St X, Massilon J, Jerome, Orange, etc.
I'd say they've earned a fair measure of respect.
Point well taken.
So there is a fair amount of respect for WK already, and everyone is not hating on them as was claimed. Good to see.
But that makes this strategy even weirder. WK got off to a good start, so why disrupt that momentum coming into September? Keep it rolling well into November.
That’s the question everyone has been trying to answer. Ryan Smith wasn’t racing, so the coaches knew that there was no chance at the team title. They decided that it wasn’t best for the runners to race their hearts out with no chance of winning this early in the season(which is a bricked decision on its own), but the alternative plan they gave the runners was even worse and makes even less sense. Regardless, they’re gonna be fine. They know what they’re capable, even if the mentals might be shot at the moment.
before the polls come out tomorrow, anyone have their own top 5-10 D1 boys and girl polls themselves?
I'd go...
1. Mason
2. Westerville North
3. St. X (my only ? ... I just think they have more they're not showing)
4. Kilbourne
5. Coffman
6. Massilon Jackson
7. Medina (Sebaugh didn't run at the preview meet)
8. Dublin Jerome
9. Chardon
10. Olentangy Orange
Yeah this is a solid list. Definitely wanna keep St X up there, it feels like the second you forget about them, they put together a crazy performance. And as long as Jackson and Jerome aren’t running like maybe they should be, they aren’t gonna get much higher on the rankings. I also think Kilbourne might dip in the rankings a bit, only because the voters probably don’t have the information that this forum has. They still deserve to be ranked around 4-5 I think we all agree, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them dip a little.
I don't think any of you guys understand what our true motive was. We wanted to try to tighten up the back end of our varsity team, so our coaches told us to go out in 5:30. This was so our back end runners could hold with the faster guys, and then when our faster guys sped up, we could hopefully push the back end to stick with them.
This whole strategy just sounds so silly.
As was said previously, there's a reason you don't see the top teams doing this.
Very silly of kilbourne. This kind of gimmicky Busch league stuff is going to cost them when it matters.
Top 3 Boys Individual: 1. Ryan Smith: 15:35.1 2. Liam Shaughnessy: 15:38.9 3. Ben Gableman: 15:39.0
Top 3 Boys Varsity Team finishers: 1. Lancaster: 50 2. Dublin Coffman: 58 3. Westerville North: 87
Just FYI, Weston Day finished 4th in that race, just 2 seconds behind Gableman in 15:41. Someone earlier in this thread said Weston wasn't in the same "category" as Gableman. I think 2 seconds is in the same category.
Like I said earlier, don't sleep on Weston Day. I know more than you.
They raced this past weekend. Day tried to stay with Gableman and couldn’t do it.
3. St. X (my only ? ... I just think they have more they're not showing)
4. Kilbourne
5. Coffman
6. Massilon Jackson
7. Medina (Sebaugh didn't run at the preview meet)
8. Dublin Jerome
9. Chardon
10. Olentangy Orange
That’s a decent list. Mason is clearly #1 then it’s a bit murky.
Jackson seems a bit low & St X a little high. Jerome is better than they’ve shown.
I can go with that list as well
Just stating the obvious here . . . SE Regional remains strong: five in the top ten. Then two from SW Ohio and three from NE Ohio--sounds about right. None from NW Ohio, which is to be expected. I am curious to see how Toledo St. Francis and Ethan Cope do this year.
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Just FYI, Weston Day finished 4th in that race, just 2 seconds behind Gableman in 15:41. Someone earlier in this thread said Weston wasn't in the same "category" as Gableman. I think 2 seconds is in the same category.
Like I said earlier, don't sleep on Weston Day. I know more than you.
They raced this past weekend. Day tried to stay with Gableman and couldn’t do it.
Gabelman won by 17 seconds, but he wasn't being pushed at the end, so it probably could have been more. I could be wrong, but I don't think they race again until the OCC on October 14th.
I don't think any of you guys understand what our true motive was. We wanted to try to tighten up the back end of our varsity team, so our coaches told us to go out in 5:30. This was so our back end runners could hold with the faster guys, and then when our faster guys sped up, we could hopefully push the back end to stick with them. It really is not as big of a deal as you guys are making it out to be, and I am sick of the message board absolutely HATING on kilbourne as a team. Just wait for our true potential...
Ok I just want to ask who are the people even getting closer together like your times are pretty similer and theres no pr that kilbourne got this race so what was the real reason behind this or did you guys want to try and get pictures running together lol