Couldn’t have asked for much more than that! So much fun just getting stuck in there at an outrageous pace and seeing how long I could hang on. After this injury, I thought it would be tough to get anywhere near half way on for a PB but to be on 2:10 marathon then was mad. My body was in absolute pieces from the time off and just fatigued so much after that I decided to call it at 30k… I guess that kick-starts the London block, not a bad place to be! (and no knee pain which is the main thing 🙌)
RTJ definitely framing this as a win on Strava, but does this actually do anything to help him for London in just under 8 weeks? Bloke has jogged around for 2 week and then just runs 30km hard for no reason.
It's hard to foresee a situation where he doesn't cook himself again at some point between now and raceday.
The assholes based in the UK are particularly funny/entertaining to follow as it is rinse repeat, no learning outcomes from races, they know better etc
RTJ definitely framing this as a win on Strava, but does this actually do anything to help him for London in just under 8 weeks? Bloke has jogged around for 2 week and then just runs 30km hard for no reason.
It's hard to foresee a situation where he doesn't cook himself again at some point between now and raceday.
Im a big fan, but cant see how London goes better. I hope it will, but it just seems unnecessary to have a blow up 8 weeks before.
RTJ (30k at PB MP, which is kinda success) followed by finishing in 2:30.
Culling 2:42 (Suprisingly decent).
I'm backing Bester more than majority (although ultimately think his build hasn't been ideal/travel ect, hence missing a PB) as I do think his volume and sessions are objectively good.
Ideally I'd personally love a time towards 2:20 for me, and if atheltes like Bester can't ticknit off consistently, it doesn't fill me with any confidience (as I'm slightly worse).
My predictions:
RTJ: Dnf...probably can come through the half in 1:06-1:07 at least though. I'm all for his strong work ethic and super high mileage (and documenting it!). But the whole "train Harder and Not Smarter" does seem to yield some injuries and inconsistencies imo. He's got a full race schedule this Spring also...so thinking about the future (London etc) has got be in the back of his mind....
Bester: 2:23 (positive split)
Culling: 2:48
What I find really interesting on here is the cohesiveness of the UK run influencers (and their fans). They seem to be what is talked about most on this whole thread. Like are most of you posters all British?
It's interesting to me....as I see the "US Run Influencer" space to be a lot more divided and not followed as closely (the US is quite divided as a whole and it's a big country). Of course most "English speaking countries" will overlap with content and who watches what (for example, around 50% of my followers on any given social media platform not American), but there does seem to be a high concentration and influence all from just the UK?
I don't know what he means by "my body was in absolute pieces after the time off and then fatigued so much" - sometimes I just don't think he's that bright and doesn't actually understand running or training. Or he might just have a mental illness. He runs silly, unneeded mileage and misses a day or 2 due to injury and thinks he's somehow lost fitness and comes back running more than ever. He will be washed up within a year
Hah, Jake getting burns in his livestream via donations. Someone donated and posted " Ran to Japan... where the only thing consistent is the upload/livestream schedule. Come to think of it, the DNFs are getting right up there too." You can tell that stung him a bit, as he immediately framed the donation as "free sweet cash money!". He "absolutely loves it". This thread is clearly leaking into his livestream.
Hah, Jake getting burns in his livestream via donations. Someone donated and posted " Ran to Japan... where the only thing consistent is the upload/livestream schedule. Come to think of it, the DNFs are getting right up there too." You can tell that stung him a bit, as he immediately framed the donation as "free sweet cash money!". He "absolutely loves it". This thread is clearly leaking into his livestream.
Donations for YouTubers are just part of the weird dynamic alongside GoFundMe in which begging is now accepted and encouraged.
I like Jake. I like that when he has a bad race and he knows he’s gonna have people criticising him, he doesn’t shy away from it. He immediately gives his thoughts and answers questions. He is a very positive, optimistic person. Some would say deluded but for the goals and life he lives I don’t think it’s a bad thing. End of the day he still has a 2:14 marathon which is faster than nearly all the other YouTuber runfluencers. He has the most popular and fastest growing channel. Things aren’t so bad. I struggle to see how he meets his goal at a London and fear he DNFs again, going off at 2:12 pace. But I kinda see his point. Why bother going off at 2:16 pace. When he already has a better PB. Maybe just going all out in the hope of an amazing day is a better watch for us
If you compare to Fenton, Welsh Runner etc who have a bad marathon and then disappear and go quiet for weeks before properly addressing it with a load of excuses… xemptyzxemptyzI prefer Jake’s way. PB or blow up. I’m not interested in watching Nick Bester getting a 2:25 or FOD playing it safe on the marathon again. some people obviously prefer seeing steady slow progress. That’s something I look for in my own running not something I want to watch a stranger make videos about
I've mentioned it before but the problem with Jake was not his knee but his lack of endurance. He was not ready to go the full distance. The rare "smart" move today pulling out. He needs to build back up and get back to his grindy carthorse principles (50-70k runs)
I like Jake. I like that when he has a bad race and he knows he’s gonna have people criticising him, he doesn’t shy away from it. He immediately gives his thoughts and answers questions. He is a very positive, optimistic person. Some would say deluded but for the goals and life he lives I don’t think it’s a bad thing. End of the day he still has a 2:14 marathon which is faster than nearly all the other YouTuber runfluencers. He has the most popular and fastest growing channel. Things aren’t so bad. I struggle to see how he meets his goal at a London and fear he DNFs again, going off at 2:12 pace. But I kinda see his point. Why bother going off at 2:16 pace. When he already has a better PB. Maybe just going all out in the hope of an amazing day is a better watch for us
If you compare to Fenton, Welsh Runner etc who have a bad marathon and then disappear and go quiet for weeks before properly addressing it with a load of excuses… xemptyzxemptyzI prefer Jake’s way. PB or blow up. I’m not interested in watching Nick Bester getting a 2:25 or FOD playing it safe on the marathon again. some people obviously prefer seeing steady slow progress. That’s something I look for in my own running not something I want to watch a stranger make videos about
Not to take away from the nuclear meltdown Matt Fox is having in an effort to try to remain relevant, but Floberg's Winter of Speed is back! Last we saw, our hero was working on his speed by racing a half marathon out of a contractual obligation to the supplement company named after a doper that produces gels that make him throw up after every session and excusing Matt Choi's actions because he sucks up to him.
In this session, we find Floberg off of the treadmill, locked in and at his best: Taking a workout his coach gave him for the roads, somewhat arbitrarily converting the times to distances for the track, and hammering recklessly from the start. The end result, as expected, is a lot of rigging up, slowing splits, and poor overall workout execution. He ends this workout, which should be fairly mundane, saying it's the hardest track workout he's ever done.
Strangely, even though he's doing this workout on a track and converted the timed reps to meters, Floberg also manages to not start from any lines at any point, taking his watch's GPS splits thoughout. He also messes up his watch again and splits it on a stride at the beginning, which throws off the whole pre-programmed workout he was so dependent on. But hey, at least the splits didn't look a little slower on the road and ran at the correct effort!
Just think, for $150 a month you can be nominally coached by this guy by having his cameraman send you a pre-written plan!
To the discussion on why british vloggers are more popular than american. While the british can have their negatives, there is nothing beating the american vloggers in having no self awareness as well as being next level clueless.
I’m sorry but Culling has no business labelled herself as an elite runner in her Instagram bio. Absolute fraud. Imagine running being your full time job - you get paid to go to marathons and brands throw ample amount of products at you. Yet you don’t have the guts or ability to commit to a proper race effort. Maybe that’s her best though and she won’t ever break 2:40 again