Yes, but I think that’s his point right? They’re lower on the subscriber count because they’re taking their running more seriously/professionally and as such have had a higher level of performance (NR, world/Olympic Q times, world medals) If RTJ really wanted to represent GB he’d sit down with a coach/physio and work out what’s wrong and what the best way forward is in the next 6-12 months. Not just deciding the day before a race how he attacks it based on pacing groups as to whether he shoots for a PB, or just jogs it, paces Bester etc. That shouldn’t be a last minute decision for a professional/international athlete. That’s something you have planned out well in advance to make sure it aligns with your long term goals. He’s got his content in a place now where it allows him to train full time, he can financially afford to miss a few posts/videos for the sake of his fitness and he’ll be fine. The sentiment of what Elson was saying was bang on, he perhaps just worded it clumsily. The RTJ army will no doubt disapprove of this statement
Fair comment, and agreed on all of the above re Jake taking a leaf out of their book and having more structure and long term plan
My observation was more that they are both trying hard at this content game, whether they like to admit it or not - yes the Makou athletes are locked into performance, but they have 6 personalities and professional athlete stories to share, along with a full time dedicated videographer and editor to do so, yet still numbers wise are failing quite miserably. That’s got to sting a bit?
I agree that for sure it must, but that probably goes for all the pro athletes trying the content game and falling way short of the "influencers". Like the comment the other day about Philly's Lulu announcement getting double the views of Keely's WR video.
But almost to Callum's point, have they failed? They have enough brands on board and a set up that allows them to train full time (I appreciate most of them do still have other income streams on the side), and largely they've reached and are reaching the goals they have set for themselves performance wise, so have they actually failed in what they've set out to achieve? RTJ on the other hand is currently lagging behind on the performance side of things vs the goals he has set out.
And there's absolutely nothing wrong with either of those approaches and wanting to do one or the other, but it's about being honest with people about your priorities because I think a lot of people are really starting to question whether Jake is serious about him not doing it for YouTube etc. I want him to succeed just as much as the next person but his trajectory has all the hallmarks of a lot of other YouTubers who have petered out under the "but I was in xx shape" guise.
Also, how can Matt Fox criticize someone for outsourcing their coaching when he was using ChatGPT to send basic communication to his athletes? Dude is completely out of touch. I think he needs another round in Japanese prison.
"I don't want to do X" is always succeeded by doing X.
Floberg claims he has 'Never Been This Fast'. After he does 10x500m + 5x1200m - all slower than his half marathon PB pace.
What's funny is that not only is this on his uncalibrated treadmill, he has proven time and time again that a) he overestimates his fitness and b) he simply has no idea how to pace a race.
Even in a YouTube world of unintelligent runners he is close to the top. His "winter of speed" never happened, he takes too long off between marathon blocks and loses too much fitness and he concentrates on the marathon and aerobic miles/workouts too much without touching speed at all.
The dudes results are screaming out for a 5k block but neither he nor his coach have the understanding to know this.
Floberg has really bad luck with his collabs.
Wahoo Kickr treadmill means he has no idea of his fitness, cant pace his races properly has has no clue on effort levels needed.
His collab with BPN means he is constantly pooing himself and the coach they gave him has watched him go backwards since he joined the stable.
FInally his link up with Coros (Who actually wears a Coros who isnt paid by them?) meant that his GPS messed up in Chicago marathon and cost him a 2:28 (which we all know he was in shape for. Best shape of his life, bro)
Why would anyone collab with Floberg when he is such an appalling ambassador?
Culling takes over Tokyo, how is she still relevant? Looking forward to seeing her run 2:50 and then telling us she only ran for fun.
Liked the photoshoot she did to announce her arrival - especially the photo where she's stood an I entire body length away from the vending machine she's leaning on. Obviously trying to look cool and edgy, but it's just done so badly she just looks awkward.
We need more authentic content.
Like RTJ's sister riding a lime bike into a bin. Brilliant stuff
Not to take away from the nuclear meltdown Matt Fox is having in an effort to try to remain relevant, but Floberg's Winter of Speed is back! Last we saw, our hero was working on his speed by racing a half marathon out of a contractual obligation to the supplement company named after a doper that produces gels that make him throw up after every session and excusing Matt Choi's actions because he sucks up to him.
In this session, we find Floberg off of the treadmill, locked in and at his best: Taking a workout his coach gave him for the roads, somewhat arbitrarily converting the times to distances for the track, and hammering recklessly from the start. The end result, as expected, is a lot of rigging up, slowing splits, and poor overall workout execution. He ends this workout, which should be fairly mundane, saying it's the hardest track workout he's ever done.
Strangely, even though he's doing this workout on a track and converted the timed reps to meters, Floberg also manages to not start from any lines at any point, taking his watch's GPS splits thoughout. He also messes up his watch again and splits it on a stride at the beginning, which throws off the whole pre-programmed workout he was so dependent on. But hey, at least the splits didn't look a little slower on the road and ran at the correct effort!
Just think, for $150 a month you can be nominally coached by this guy by having his cameraman send you a pre-written plan!
Not to take away from the nuclear meltdown Matt Fox is having in an effort to try to remain relevant, but Floberg's Winter of Speed is back! Last we saw, our hero was working on his speed by racing a half marathon out of a contractual obligation to the supplement company named after a doper that produces gels that make him throw up after every session and excusing Matt Choi's actions because he sucks up to him.
In this session, we find Floberg off of the treadmill, locked in and at his best: Taking a workout his coach gave him for the roads, somewhat arbitrarily converting the times to distances for the track, and hammering recklessly from the start. The end result, as expected, is a lot of rigging up, slowing splits, and poor overall workout execution. He ends this workout, which should be fairly mundane, saying it's the hardest track workout he's ever done.
Strangely, even though he's doing this workout on a track and converted the timed reps to meters, Floberg also manages to not start from any lines at any point, taking his watch's GPS splits thoughout. He also messes up his watch again and splits it on a stride at the beginning, which throws off the whole pre-programmed workout he was so dependent on. But hey, at least the splits didn't look a little slower on the road and ran at the correct effort!
Just think, for $150 a month you can be nominally coached by this guy by having his cameraman send you a pre-written plan!
Better yet is his post run rationalization of his HR topping out at 170 despite related 400M and 500M all out efforts. This is someone who has consistently claimed his HRMax to be 190. Is it possible that Floberg has been training for this long and still doesn’t actually know what his max heart rate is?
Strangely, even though he's doing this workout on a track and converted the timed reps to meters, Floberg also manages to not start from any lines at any point, taking his watch's GPS splits thoughout. He also messes up his watch again and splits it on a stride at the beginning, which throws off the whole pre-programmed workout he was so dependent on. But hey, at least the splits didn't look a little slower on the road and ran at the correct effort!
I love watching Floberg use his expensive watch to make everything significantly more convuluted and inconvenient. Just run the rep and hit the lap button dude, it's supposed to make life easier.
Ironically if he stopped overthinking every split and just reviewed the data afterwards like a regular person he might actually learn to pace and set goal times that aren't 100% blowing smoke out of his ass, and it would probably make for better sponsor content than fumbling around in a poorly-executed dash to the portaloo.
Yes, but I think that’s his point right? They’re lower on the subscriber count because they’re taking their running more seriously/professionally and as such have had a higher level of performance (NR, world/Olympic Q times, world medals) If RTJ really wanted to represent GB he’d sit down with a coach/physio and work out what’s wrong and what the best way forward is in the next 6-12 months. Not just deciding the day before a race how he attacks it based on pacing groups as to whether he shoots for a PB, or just jogs it, paces Bester etc. That shouldn’t be a last minute decision for a professional/international athlete. That’s something you have planned out well in advance to make sure it aligns with your long term goals. He’s got his content in a place now where it allows him to train full time, he can financially afford to miss a few posts/videos for the sake of his fitness and he’ll be fine. The sentiment of what Elson was saying was bang on, he perhaps just worded it clumsily. The RTJ army will no doubt disapprove of this statement
Fair comment, and agreed on all of the above re Jake taking a leaf out of their book and having more structure and long term plan
My observation was more that they are both trying hard at this content game, whether they like to admit it or not - yes the Makou athletes are locked into performance, but they have 6 personalities and professional athlete stories to share, along with a full time dedicated videographer and editor to do so, yet still numbers wise are failing quite miserably. That’s got to sting a bit?
You're assuming that having 6 athletes means they have 6 personalities...
Not to take away from the nuclear meltdown Matt Fox is having in an effort to try to remain relevant, but Floberg's Winter of Speed is back! Last we saw, our hero was working on his speed by racing a half marathon out of a contractual obligation to the supplement company named after a doper that produces gels that make him throw up after every session and excusing Matt Choi's actions because he sucks up to him.
In this session, we find Floberg off of the treadmill, locked in and at his best: Taking a workout his coach gave him for the roads, somewhat arbitrarily converting the times to distances for the track, and hammering recklessly from the start. The end result, as expected, is a lot of rigging up, slowing splits, and poor overall workout execution. He ends this workout, which should be fairly mundane, saying it's the hardest track workout he's ever done.
Strangely, even though he's doing this workout on a track and converted the timed reps to meters, Floberg also manages to not start from any lines at any point, taking his watch's GPS splits thoughout. He also messes up his watch again and splits it on a stride at the beginning, which throws off the whole pre-programmed workout he was so dependent on. But hey, at least the splits didn't look a little slower on the road and ran at the correct effort!
Just think, for $150 a month you can be nominally coached by this guy by having his cameraman send you a pre-written plan!
Don't forget "Last rep wasn't programmed, so I was short about 50 meters".
If only you were on a surface that was well-marked every 100 meters, that would be pretty handy. Dude is just such a mess I can't turn away
Liked the photoshoot she did to announce her arrival - especially the photo where she's stood an I entire body length away from the vending machine she's leaning on. Obviously trying to look cool and edgy, but it's just done so badly she just looks awkward.
We need more authentic content.
Like RTJ's sister riding a lime bike into a bin. Brilliant stuff
I'm all for any content involving RTJ's sister, if I'm honest.
These ghouls belong in kabuki theater not the Tokyo marathon
This is Nicks first marathon since he nearly died in an explosion pre Valencia and you are talking about him like that?? He’s clearly suffering from PTSD and if you aren’t inspired by the bravery he is showing to toes the line once again then I fear you are dead inside. Do Bester
Not to take away from the nuclear meltdown Matt Fox is having in an effort to try to remain relevant, but Floberg's Winter of Speed is back! Last we saw, our hero was working on his speed by racing a half marathon out of a contractual obligation to the supplement company named after a doper that produces gels that make him throw up after every session and excusing Matt Choi's actions because he sucks up to him.
In this session, we find Floberg off of the treadmill, locked in and at his best: Taking a workout his coach gave him for the roads, somewhat arbitrarily converting the times to distances for the track, and hammering recklessly from the start. The end result, as expected, is a lot of rigging up, slowing splits, and poor overall workout execution. He ends this workout, which should be fairly mundane, saying it's the hardest track workout he's ever done.
Strangely, even though he's doing this workout on a track and converted the timed reps to meters, Floberg also manages to not start from any lines at any point, taking his watch's GPS splits thoughout. He also messes up his watch again and splits it on a stride at the beginning, which throws off the whole pre-programmed workout he was so dependent on. But hey, at least the splits didn't look a little slower on the road and ran at the correct effort!
Just think, for $150 a month you can be nominally coached by this guy by having his cameraman send you a pre-written plan!
Don't forget "Last rep wasn't programmed, so I was short about 50 meters".
If only you were on a surface that was well-marked every 100 meters, that would be pretty handy. Dude is just such a mess I can't turn away
This has been the funniest thread here in a while. It’s actually so ridiculous, it feels like it’s out of “Dumb Runner” meme.
Hats off to him if he’s doing it on purpose, because being accidentally 50 meters short on a track is one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a long time. Relying on your watch to tell you where the 400/200/100 marks on a track is something out a running comedy skit.
These ghouls belong in kabuki theater not the Tokyo marathon
This is Nicks first marathon since he nearly died in an explosion pre Valencia and you are talking about him like that?? He’s clearly suffering from PTSD and if you aren’t inspired by the bravery he is showing to toes the line once again then I fear you are dead inside. Do Bester
Don't forget "Last rep wasn't programmed, so I was short about 50 meters".
If only you were on a surface that was well-marked every 100 meters, that would be pretty handy. Dude is just such a mess I can't turn away
This has been the funniest thread here in a while. It’s actually so ridiculous, it feels like it’s out of “Dumb Runner” meme.
Hats off to him if he’s doing it on purpose, because being accidentally 50 meters short on a track is one of the funniest things I’ve seen in a long time. Relying on your watch to tell you where the 400/200/100 marks on a track is something out a running comedy skit.
He then claims that he hasn’t gotten everything out on race day, saying he’s done much better workouts than his race times. What?