RegisteredMechanic wrote:
Your skepticism is understandable, but you have nothing to worry about. You can now focus your attention back on the role of women with testicles in your sport.
RM
lol. Well done, post of the thread.
RegisteredMechanic wrote:
Your skepticism is understandable, but you have nothing to worry about. You can now focus your attention back on the role of women with testicles in your sport.
RM
lol. Well done, post of the thread.
they are deleting comments on the facebook page now
They just posted a ton of pictures on their facebook page showing uploaded GPS data summaries. Mixed in with a lot of 12 - 30 min / mile segments are a ~30 mile segment just below 8:00 pace and a ~12 mile segment at 6:35 pace with a handful of other shorter runs at sub-7 average pace.
I hope they post a link to the profile they've uploaded this data to. It would go a long way in helping to make their case. Not sure why they uploaded a series of photos instead.
Anyone recognize the website UI?
Jim Smith If everything is above board, why are you posting so many responses to these accusations?
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Marathonmanuk
Marathonmanuk My crew member Dustin agrees with you - i just believe showing some the many data collected is better
6.7 miles @ 5:58 pace and 25.4 miles @ 6:34 pace. Pretty nuts in the middle of a 3000+ mile, 60+ miles/day journey if he's really running those.
It's dark at night in both the Summer and Winter.
The sun never sets on the British Empire.
Jim Smith just upload the raw gpx files from the trackers you've been wearing, not the one from the van, then there is no question
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Marathonmanuk
Marathonmanuk Seriously I'm offended by your statement
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Jim Smith
Jim Smith why?
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Marathonmanuk
Marathonmanuk By you Stating the gps is in the van and not on me
So the guy ran 25.4 miles at essentially his marathon PR pace.
In the middle of a 3,000mi journey
Solo
In either crazy heat or the middle of the night
In the middle of a 70+mi day.
Yep. No issues here....
CopyMyRun wrote:
It appears for the first year or so our man recorded all his marathons on MapMyRun.
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workouts/47536076/If you go back to when it all started in April 2014 you can see the now infamous first week and the 10 marathons, only problem is that some of them appear to be direct copies of other ones with a number of marathons with exactly the same distance (go into the TCX files and they are the same to 6 decimal places). My guess is someone was using the "Copy" function and then just editing the times for some of them
Outstanding find! This is the best yet!
Ok, check out just the first 3 marathons he claims to have run in 4:07, 3:28 (3:27:53 according to mapmyrun), and 3:19. The dates don't really match up, but that's only minor compared to what he describes of the route in his book. I'll quote verbatim from the book the description of the course he claims to have run in Richmond Park:
"The route is almost all on a path called the Tamsin trail, which circles the park's [Richmond Park] perimeter. It's a complicated route: a 3.1 mile loop, followed by a 9.1 mile loop, then lastly two 7.2 mile laps of the perimeter. There's not too much overall elevation, 340 meters total, including a couple of small hills. You've got to watch your footing in parts, especially on the downhills (and in the dark). There are four or five water fountains on the course, all of which I'd need today. The route comes back past the start point at Sheen Gate four times, so leaving my bag there, full of snacks and drinks, would become my routine."
In his book, he is clearly describing a multi-loop course in Richmond Park that goes by the same starting point at Sheen Gate four times.
Now checkout the course maps that he posted for these marathons in mapmyrun.com:
Marathon #1 (4:07:31) - mislabeled as "AFTERNOON 2ND MARATHON IN A"
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537962844Marathon #2 (3:27:53) -
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537427974Marathon #3 (3:19:00)
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537013760Observe that for all 3 of these personal marathons, it's the exact same course, but none of the courses remotely match the detailed description of his route in his book. These are point to point courses that start in Twickenham near Richmond Park, go three-quarters of the way around Richmond Park, then head off northeast towards London, and end at Regent's Park 11 miles away (the way the crow flies).
For comparison, here's the Tamsin trail around Richmond Park that he claims in the book to be doing loops on:
http://www.richmondparklondon.co.uk/cycling/mountainbiking/Something is rotten in Twickenham...
curiously interested wrote:
Something is rotten in Twickenham...
Sir, you may have made a new entry into letsrun lexicon.
curiously interested wrote:
CopyMyRun wrote:It appears for the first year or so our man recorded all his marathons on MapMyRun.
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workouts/47536076/If you go back to when it all started in April 2014 you can see the now infamous first week and the 10 marathons, only problem is that some of them appear to be direct copies of other ones with a number of marathons with exactly the same distance (go into the TCX files and they are the same to 6 decimal places). My guess is someone was using the "Copy" function and then just editing the times for some of them
Outstanding find! This is the best yet!
Ok, check out just the first 3 marathons he claims to have run in 4:07, 3:28 (3:27:53 according to mapmyrun), and 3:19. The dates don't really match up, but that's only minor compared to what he describes of the route in his book. I'll quote verbatim from the book the description of the course he claims to have run in Richmond Park:
"The route is almost all on a path called the Tamsin trail, which circles the park's [Richmond Park] perimeter. It's a complicated route: a 3.1 mile loop, followed by a 9.1 mile loop, then lastly two 7.2 mile laps of the perimeter. There's not too much overall elevation, 340 meters total, including a couple of small hills. You've got to watch your footing in parts, especially on the downhills (and in the dark). There are four or five water fountains on the course, all of which I'd need today. The route comes back past the start point at Sheen Gate four times, so leaving my bag there, full of snacks and drinks, would become my routine."
In his book, he is clearly describing a multi-loop course in Richmond Park that goes by the same starting point at Sheen Gate four times.
Now checkout the course maps that he posted for these marathons in mapmyrun.com:
Marathon #1 (4:07:31) - mislabeled as "AFTERNOON 2ND MARATHON IN A"
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537962844Marathon #2 (3:27:53) -
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537427974Marathon #3 (3:19:00)
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537013760Observe that for all 3 of these personal marathons, it's the exact same course, but none of the courses remotely match the detailed description of his route in his book. These are point to point courses that start in Twickenham near Richmond Park, go three-quarters of the way around Richmond Park, then head off northeast towards London, and end at Regent's Park 11 miles away (the way the crow flies).
For comparison, here's the Tamsin trail around Richmond Park that he claims in the book to be doing loops on:
http://www.richmondparklondon.co.uk/cycling/mountainbiking/Something is rotten in Twickenham...
When will these people learn -- you can run from Letsrun, but you can't hide.
Lads ... throw in the towel and stop embarrassing yourself.
Natty Dread wrote:
I still do not understand why he chooses to run behind the RV? It would be healthier and safer for him to run 100 ft in front of it. The headlamps would light the road for him at night and he would be protected from anyone approaching too quickly from behind. This would also allow a dashcam in the RV to keep a record of his run.
Those are very good recommendations, but would it get him 55 pages worth of attention from lets-runners?
Video should still be available in my Google photos link on the OP. Falling behind on the comments, so I will post it again if I find out people can't access there either
Troller of Trolls wrote:
Was the OP a troll all along?
triathleteguru wrote:Youtube video of the RV driving by the gas station has been taken down!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39KOzjPw7gs
Holy crap! Look at this day
There's 50+mi on this day with almost all of it in the 7min pace or faster.
This day alone discredits him in my mind.
valkvjlvajla wrote:
He's now claiming he ran past the camera 15 minutes after the RV goes slowly by! It never stops!
"Video / CCTV footage was posted of the RV going through Emporia. I ask for the owner to post up to 15 or so mins after the rv went through as you might just find me on the screen as the van tried to stay with me but I dropped off the pace... I think that is what happened
So I beg for the owner to continue watching or/and post a lengthy video before and after the RV"
1. I believe Asher brought up this possibility when he originally posted the surveillance video. He asked Rob to respond with how far ahead or behind the RV he was and he would get the appropriate footage from the owner. If he can get it, this quickly becomes an open and shut case.
2. How does he get 15 minutes behind his RV? They are there for one runner, there is no reason the RV shouldn't match his pace. I can understand if there was a reason they had to leave him to pick up supplies or something like that, but they would leave him at the posted speed limit, they wouldn't slowly creep away from him at 7MPH.
Hittingthepress wrote:
Press starting to catch on:
https://twitter.com/outsidemagazine/status/741329959734681605
I did suggest to Rob yesterday he should pack his bags and go home before it all went viral. Some people never learn.
x men wrote:
Jim Smith just upload the raw gpx files from the trackers you've been wearing, not the one from the van, then there is no question
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Marathonmanuk
Marathonmanuk Seriously I'm offended by your statement
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Jim Smith
Jim Smith why?
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Marathonmanuk
Marathonmanuk By you Stating the gps is in the van and not on me
Haven't they said a bunch of times that the GPS (linked to the online tracking) is in the van and is only meant to enable people to find Robert so that they can run with him? I can't find anywhere that they said this specifically now that I look, though.
My guess is the guy is just exhausted and sleep deprived (from sleeping ~3 hrs a night the past 2 years) and is getting confused about all of the various GPS devices he and others have talked about.
The facebook comments quoted above have already been deleted from their FB account.
if you wish to direct your questions directly to the man, he has been answering here
curiously interested wrote:
CopyMyRun wrote:It appears for the first year or so our man recorded all his marathons on MapMyRun.
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workouts/47536076/If you go back to when it all started in April 2014 you can see the now infamous first week and the 10 marathons, only problem is that some of them appear to be direct copies of other ones with a number of marathons with exactly the same distance (go into the TCX files and they are the same to 6 decimal places). My guess is someone was using the "Copy" function and then just editing the times for some of them
Outstanding find! This is the best yet!
Ok, check out just the first 3 marathons he claims to have run in 4:07, 3:28 (3:27:53 according to mapmyrun), and 3:19. The dates don't really match up, but that's only minor compared to what he describes of the route in his book. I'll quote verbatim from the book the description of the course he claims to have run in Richmond Park:
"The route is almost all on a path called the Tamsin trail, which circles the park's [Richmond Park] perimeter. It's a complicated route: a 3.1 mile loop, followed by a 9.1 mile loop, then lastly two 7.2 mile laps of the perimeter. There's not too much overall elevation, 340 meters total, including a couple of small hills. You've got to watch your footing in parts, especially on the downhills (and in the dark). There are four or five water fountains on the course, all of which I'd need today. The route comes back past the start point at Sheen Gate four times, so leaving my bag there, full of snacks and drinks, would become my routine."
In his book, he is clearly describing a multi-loop course in Richmond Park that goes by the same starting point at Sheen Gate four times.
Now checkout the course maps that he posted for these marathons in mapmyrun.com:
Marathon #1 (4:07:31) - mislabeled as "AFTERNOON 2ND MARATHON IN A"
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537962844Marathon #2 (3:27:53) -
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537427974Marathon #3 (3:19:00)
http://www.mapmyrun.com/workout/537013760Observe that for all 3 of these personal marathons, it's the exact same course, but none of the courses remotely match the detailed description of his route in his book. These are point to point courses that start in Twickenham near Richmond Park, go three-quarters of the way around Richmond Park, then head off northeast towards London, and end at Regent's Park 11 miles away (the way the crow flies).
For comparison, here's the Tamsin trail around Richmond Park that he claims in the book to be doing loops on:
http://www.richmondparklondon.co.uk/cycling/mountainbiking/Something is rotten in Twickenham...
Something is rotten indeed.