Ron Basejam wrote:
Wejo and Rojo: it's time.
Put up a prize purse for Jill to target, find a USATF certified course, hire a college kid to Periscope it from a golf cart, and put on a race for Jill to break the record.
Looks like she's got four kids so she could do with the money.
what if for just a minute you close your eyes take a deep breath and believe ...
let go of your anger, frustration, and pettiness
...
and just believe
...
its not so bad to believe that somewhere out there is an unknown talent, training on the roads early dawn, struggling to achieve potential, doing the daily sacrifice, and keeping the flame of hope alive, they might be fast for their neighborhood, country or world, but they are getting faster every day
...
it could be her ... or someone somewhere else ... hell it could be one of you reading this ....
she never said anything about this, it is all on her coach/sponsor/race director, and now it is on a lot of you
dream wrote:
what if for just a minute you close your eyes take a deep breath and believe ...
let go of your anger, frustration, and pettiness
Alternatively they could just turn up and run the race and settle it
oh man...just race! awesome 5k on 3/19 in s.jersey...pretty sure course is certified...Erin Donahue has the record in sub 16...she should just shoot for that..you know beating one olympian at a time...and getting a COURSE RECORD for starters...
dream wrote:
what if for just a minute you close your eyes take a deep breath and believe ...
let go of your anger, frustration, and pettiness
...
and just believe
...
its not so bad to believe that somewhere out there is an unknown talent, training on the roads early dawn, struggling to achieve potential, doing the daily sacrifice, and keeping the flame of hope alive, they might be fast for their neighborhood, country or world, but they are getting faster every day
...
it could be her ... or someone somewhere else ... hell it could be one of you reading this ....
she never said anything about this, it is all on her coach/sponsor/race director, and now it is on a lot of you
yes there is a certain element of angst on this board that cries havoc and runs amok whenever someone else excels: they must be doping, they must be able to afford altitude, they must have genetics, they must have cushy sponsors, they must have a silver spoon, they must be a product of affording a coach, they this and they that
that element comes across in a lot of the threads, this one as well
and you are right, she is getting the flak and mocked but so far I cannot see anywhere that she ever came out and ran her mouth, not one word, she is the polar opposite of the Lawlor character and I can't see any reason for anyone to hold a grudge against her. The coach for putting his athlete out there and calling for a American record attempt, sure, bait much and uncool. But how is that on her? I doubt she is paying him to coach her. It is like a big mouth agent/friend. The race director? Naive sure. To me it is all on the coach. But still I see no real bad stuff here. To each his own. Let the bitterness envelop this thread.
dream wrote:
she never said anything about this,
Which is part of the problem. She knows there's a scam going on, is doing nothing and letting the fire burn out of control, if you can't see that then you're an idiot.
nightmare wrote:
Let the bitterness envelop this thread.
No bitterness, just a suggestion that next time she runs the race and settles it
You're right, she didn't. wrote:
dream wrote:she never said anything about this,
Which is part of the problem. She knows there's a scam going on, is doing nothing and letting the fire burn out of control, if you can't see that then you're an idiot.
There hasn't been much vitriol directed at her. It's mostly been a collective 'WTF?' about the RD and 'coach'. The post above is about the harshest criticism that's been directed at her.
dream wrote:
she never said anything about this, it is all on her coach/sponsor/race director, and now it is on a lot of you
I think you missed the "ably assisted" bit.
Sounds familiar. wrote:
Former race director wrote:Manipulative jerks are amazing spin doctors. Manipulative jerks are really good at this in all areas of life.
Sounds like the good doctor in this case, ably assisted by Bob and Jill.
pray tell what did she do that qualifies as "ably assisted"?
on the other hand wrote:
pray tell what did she do that qualifies as "ably assisted"?
So, someone you know posts all over social media that in an upcoming race you are going to break the AR, you don't comment one way or the other?
ExpertKipWatcher wrote:
nightmare wrote:Let the bitterness envelop this thread.
No bitterness, just a suggestion that next time she runs the race and settles it
Or how about ANY race? Any race on a certified course with real live people in it?
on the other hand wrote:
pray tell what did she do that qualifies as "ably assisted"?
Pray what don't you understand about "She knows there's a scam going on, is doing nothing and letting the fire burn out of control"
You're right, she didn't. wrote:
dream wrote:she never said anything about this,
Which is part of the problem. She knows there's a scam going on, is doing nothing and letting the fire burn out of control, if you can't see that then you're an idiot.
And if you want to get technical:
Accessory (legal term) - deliberately doing nothing can make you an accessory i.e. assisting.
To the people saying that Jill never said anything and never participated, I refer you to these URLs you must have missed earlier in this thread:
from habs:
from boomkat:
and
They both reached out to Jill via facebook and posted their communications as you can see.
imgur can be faked
So Jilly's not so innocent after all. Thanks.
snowedin wrote:
imgur can be faked
Two different, well known accounts/people posted comms. One is registered, the other provably communicated with others involved in this debacle, including the RD, via facebook (we saw their visitor posts including where she got abused). But we do realise this is a pretty anonymous forum. So sure, everything can be faked... like... for example...
... training times.
she "liked" Austin Sedicum's post on his Facebook that simply said "pretty disappointed" in response to questions about the record attempt.
L2read wrote:
[quote]snowedi. So sure, everything can be faked... like... for example...
... training times.
Half the posts on this thread were faked.
snowedin wrote:
imgur can be faked
Jill follows this thread so it would be nice to hear from her on lots of things, she could easily register and post here and cross reference to here Facebook page confirming it is her using that registered handle.