Never been a fan of Jesuit but you got to give them their flowers. Even without Bilodeau they would have won with a team time just under 76. Had many of us skeptical but they performed when it mattered. A 20 second spread could make some noise at nationals.
don't really care. I predict jesuit will be around 8th at nxn and second cal team will be 15th. Hopefully no at-large bids. At-large bids should go to regions that place high last year so that would be south region, southwest, midwest, northeast
Still think California deserves no boys at large teams?
don't really care. I predict jesuit will be around 8th at nxn and second cal team will be 15th. Hopefully no at-large bids. At-large bids should go to regions that place high last year so that would be south region, southwest, midwest, northeast
Still think California deserves no boys at large teams?
1:16:49 without a low stick to bring down the time 100% deserves an at-large. But the committee won't give it to them. California teams Menlo and Glendora were 15th and 17th last year. The committee will take that into note and not give them an at-large. I agree. Performances last year at nxn were underwhelming.
Still think California deserves no boys at large teams?
1:16:49 without a low stick to bring down the time 100% deserves an at-large. But the committee won't give it to them. California teams Menlo and Glendora were 15th and 17th last year. The committee will take that into note and not give them an at-large. I agree. Performances last year at nxn were underwhelming.
Moreno individually outside of Noonan and maybe Turk. Fitchen-Young likely went out too hardbut what happened to Kushen and Lesher?
Speed ratings are up. 15:00 dropped another point from Clovis, now it is worth 186. Last year's state meet it was worth 188, and for many years before that it was usually 190 (when only a few runners would break 15 each year). So, since the SR is a relative measure, it makes sense that the scale is changing like this.
Speed ratings are up. 15:00 dropped another point from Clovis, now it is worth 186. Last year's state meet it was worth 188, and for many years before that it was usually 190 (when only a few runners would break 15 each year). So, since the SR is a relative measure, it makes sense that the scale is changing like this.
Yes, as expected. I gotta say, i've never seen anything like this before.
21 boys under 15:00
33 boys under 15:10
Presumed NXN individuals: Conor Lott, Cooper Stream, Alijah Murillo (GO CCS BABY!!), Maximo Zavaleta, Aidan Antonio
Speed ratings are up. 15:00 dropped another point from Clovis, now it is worth 186. Last year's state meet it was worth 188, and for many years before that it was usually 190 (when only a few runners would break 15 each year). So, since the SR is a relative measure, it makes sense that the scale is changing like this.
Yes, as expected. I gotta say, i've never seen anything like this before.
21 boys under 15:00
33 boys under 15:10
Presumed NXN individuals: Conor Lott, Cooper Stream, Alijah Murillo (GO CCS BABY!!), Maximo Zavaleta, Aidan Antonio
Yes, go CCS! The best section! I hope Alijah Murillo wins NXN. Probably not gonna happen, but if there is room behind runners like Jackson Spencer and Caden Leonard, I hope he does well.
Yes, as expected. I gotta say, i've never seen anything like this before.
21 boys under 15:00
33 boys under 15:10
Presumed NXN individuals: Conor Lott, Cooper Stream, Alijah Murillo (GO CCS BABY!!), Maximo Zavaleta, Aidan Antonio
Yes, go CCS! The best section! I hope Alijah Murillo wins NXN. Probably not gonna happen, but if there is room behind runners like Jackson Spencer and Caden Leonard, I hope he does well.
I have high hopes of Amaya doing well. Today was the first time she was pushed all year and she smashed the CCS record.
BOYS TEAM ORDER1) Carmichael XC 2) Redondo Beach XC 3) San Clemente XC (moves into at-large pool) 4) Manhattan Beach XC (moves into at-large pool) BOYS INDIVIDUAL QUALIFIERS1) Conor Lott2) Cooper Stream3) Alijah Murillo4) Max...
Still think California deserves no boys at large teams?
1:16:49 without a low stick to bring down the time 100% deserves an at-large. But the committee won't give it to them. California teams Menlo and Glendora were 15th and 17th last year. The committee will take that into note and not give them an at-large. I agree. Performances last year at nxn were underwhelming.
So both on the boys and girls side, they got not 1, but TWO bids
1:16:49 without a low stick to bring down the time 100% deserves an at-large. But the committee won't give it to them. California teams Menlo and Glendora were 15th and 17th last year. The committee will take that into note and not give them an at-large. I agree. Performances last year at nxn were underwhelming.
So both on the boys and girls side, they got not 1, but TWO bids
Shoutout Alden Morales. After 3 years of frustrations he strung together a great season. 15:20 on Woodward is amazing for a guy who runs 49.11. Really hope he stays healthy.
Shoutout Alden Morales. After 3 years of frustrations he strung together a great season. 15:20 on Woodward is amazing for a guy who runs 49.11. Really hope he stays healthy.
He’s probably even more thrilled with finally getting this team title than this time
So one the boys side, I guess San Clemente and Mira Costa were selected because both of these teams beat autoqualifier Redondo Union multiple times These teams are lucky they get to face each other a lot because Mira Costa is really close to Redondo Union
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Damn, is that the fastest time for a team consisting entirely of NON-SENIORS? They should be right up there with Bellarmine's 2019 team time for that impressive accomplishment.
Actually, Campolindo’s 7th man is their only senior. But, San Clemente is returning everyone next year, and their times are definitely faster than 2019 Bellarmine
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Also, small detail but Drake Hoferer’s former teammate from Poway ran a 14:59 for 6th at the DI race. Also, Julia Stamps’s daughter, Ashlin Mallon, ran 17:48 in the D5 race for 6th.
What's up everyone, I'm the original poster that started this thread, and this state meet was very interesting. Here are some of my takeaways/insights:
- Jesuit is the real deal. Insane team time and super tight top 5. They didn't even all have a perfect race; Connor Bilodeau ran 10 seconds slower than at Clovis, but his teammates improved enough so that it didn't even matter, namely Drake Hoferer and Lucas Alberts. If Niwot ever has an off day, Jesuit has reinforced that they will be one of the contenders to nab the national title.
- Redondo, San Clemente, and Mira Costa really put up perfect races. I don't think any of their guys did particularly bad. I think the biggest surprise to me was Redondo's 3rd runner, Desmond Vaughn. I remember him being a 14:4x 3 miler, so seeing him go through the 1st mile in 4:3x convinced me that redondo was going out too fast and would probably die out, like last week at the CIF ss finals. But nope, Vaughn in particular had an amazing race and ran 15:14, and all his teammates held on. Same for San Clemente and Mira Costa, although I expected San Clemente to steal the title from Redondo in the last mile. The improvement that these teams' 3-5th runners have had is incredible.
- Woodbridge, Campolindo, and Beckman, despite their best efforts, fall short once again. Especially brutal for Woodbridge, since 4 of their top 5 had amazing races and ran faster than clovis, while Thomas Yohn ran a lagging 15:55, clearly not at 100% after missing the qualifying races. Fun Fact: if Yohn just ran the same time that he did at clovis (15:19), Woodbridge would have convincingly qualified for NXN, and ran 36 seconds faster than their already-great team time. Instead, they got 5th in the merge due to other team's superior placement. Beckman's Nguyen unfortunately had another bad day at state, despite his teammates performing amazingly well to still get 4th in the D1 race. If Nguyen ran his clovis time, Beckman also could've strongly qualified for NXN ahead of Mira Costa. Campolindo just lacked top runners today; their 2-5 was nicely placed for the d3 race, but they were all 10-20 seconds off getting their team into contention for qualifying for NXN. However, since most of them are returning, increased development will probably push that pack forward and make them formidable.
- California boys teams are finally on the comeback. After the last 2 years of disappointment following the NP era, its exciting to see so much potential in California's future. The top 5 boys teams today beat Glendora's team time when they received the at-large qualifier last year for NXN, and most of those teams are returning most of their runners. Only Mira Costa and Redondo are going to be graduating a majority of their varsity runners after this school year. I know someone else has already started a CIF 2026 thread, but I just wanted to leave my own predictions here for the next season:
1. San Clemente
They always peak and develop very well, they're returning their entire top 7, and they performed very strongly today to qualify for NXN via at-large qualification. It will be tough to dethrone them in their best year ever.
2. Jesuit
They will graduate 3 key seniors; Isaac Abbot, Drake Hoferer, and Kyle Jakary, but their returners are still seriously good, and their depth will most likely be able to fill any gaps that appear.
3. Campolindo
as I hinted earlier, Campolindo has a very strong pack and a strong low stick in Clark Gregory, so as they all develop next year, all their scorers will be fitter and simply be faster, producing devastating depth. However, their performance in the state meet merge is unproven, compared to Jesuit and San Clemente.
4. Woodbridge
Woodbridge, like Jesuit, loses 2 key runners; Aiden Zavala and Inban Kathiravan, but they still return 4 of their top 7 and lots of depth that will cover any problems. Notably, Aidan Antonio will be one of the strongest low sticks in the state.
5. Mountain View
Mountain View only loses a couple of their top 10 runners, and their returners are plenty fast enough on Woodward park to create a much stronger team for next year as they develop.
6. Redondo Union
Redondo has thoroughly proved how well they can reload and develop their runners this season. They graduate many top runners this year, just like last year, but Mario Montoya and Matteo Sanchez will remain and only get faster, and I won't underestimate Redondo's ability to reload. Montoya and Sanchez will fight to be the best 1-2 punch in California with Anderson and Dos Santos from San Clemente.
7. Vacaville
Cooper Stream surprised with the individual state championship in d2 today, and while they lose a significant amount of seniors, they have enough strong returners to stay relevant and challenge more teams next year.
One last thing: we DO NOT deserve the 2nd at large. The first one is very much deserved; San Clemente has historically done very well at NXN and has been on a very notable comeup throughout the season. On the other hand, this will be Mira Costa's 1st appearance at NXN (I think), and other teams in the nation are much more deserving of a berth than them. I thought for sure the northwest would get one so that Mead would go; if a team is one point off of autoqualifying for NXN and doesn't get an at large bid, that is similar to implying that the 2nd autoqualifier does not deserve to go, because the gap is so small. Save the 2 CA at larges for next year, when we will be STACKED.
I don't understand the criteria for why or when NXN gives California a 2nd at large bid. Generally I think CA is competitive enough to deserve 1 bid each year. But NXN gets the second bid wrong every year. And they do so inconsistently.
2022 - San Clemente (3rd/264/78:18) and Granada (4th/303/78:35) both get bids.
2023 - Great Oak (3rd/266/77:35) gets a bid but Oakdale (4th/286/77:23) doesn't.
2024 - Glendora (3rd/340/77:12) gets a bid and Oaks Christian (4th/428/77:43) doesn't.
2025 - San Clemente (3rd/319/76:49) and Mira Costa (4th/342/76:56) both get bids.
If you go off of national rankings. Every single team listed was ranked in the top 25 nationally at some time before state, except Mira Costa. Granada peaked at 13 in 2022 and got a bid. Oakdale peaked at 17th in 2023 and Oaks Christian peaked at 20th in 2024 and they didn't get bids. But Mira Costa, who hasn't been nationally ranked at all in 2025, gets a bid.
If you go off of how they finished vs other California teams it still doesn't make sense. Mira Costa scores 342 points, 33 points back from 3rd and gets a bid. But Oakdale scores 286 points, 20 points back from 3rd and doesn't. While Granada finishes between them with 303 points, 59 points back from 3rd and gets a bid?
Going off team spread doesn't make sense either. Granada had a 35 second spread and their 5 ran 15:55. They get a bid. Oakdale has a 58 second spread and their 5 runs 16:05. They don't get a bid. Oaks Christian has a 42 second spread and their 5 runs 15:49. They don't get a bid. Mira Costa has a 30 second spread and their 5 runs 15:35. They get a bid. So if your 5 runs 15:55, you get a bid. But if they run 16:05 or 15:49, you don't.
Even when you consider how good other regions are it doesn't make sense. Mead finished 3rd at their regional meet by 1 point and has been consistently ranked top 15 nationally. But they're taking Mira Costa. While in 2023 a lackluster Southeast Portland team got a bid over Oakdale and finished in the back half. I can't tell if Mead or Oakdale got screwed worse.
I believe NXN has only gotten the CA bids right once since covid, 2024. When they rightfully only gave them 1 bid.
In 2022 Granada didn't deserve a bid, and they ended up finishing 16th at NXN.
In 2023 Oakdale did deserve a bid, and they ended up getting 2nd at runninglane and finishing the year ranked 20th nationally.
In 2024 Oaks Christian didn't deserve a bid, they actually got it right.
And in 2025 Mira Costa doesn't deserve a bid, I guess we'll see what happens at NXN.
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