And the corollary is that zelenskyy knows the US is cutting off Ukraine, so there’s no sense groveling and THeN being cut off. Go out as a man and speak truth to Trump and the world. Be brave.
At least Europe is still pro-liberty and will respond to the call to support freedom and democracy. the US is now pro-dictatorship, anti-freedkm.
Sorry Baghdad, but the Eurotrash will be dumping the Ukraine Train as soon as Putin turns the screws on them a bit.
Actually, if Mike Pompeo still agrees with your stance, you are far from that. He did not leave on good terms with Trump, but still thinks our play was right , on this one. And that Ukraine was way off. So do folks like Graham, again not a Trump fan for quite a while. Carl Rove who is completely reasonable, Jack Keene, who almost all respect as well.
And the corollary is that zelenskyy knows the US is cutting off Ukraine, so there’s no sense groveling and THeN being cut off. Go out as a man and speak truth to Trump and the world. Be brave.
At least Europe is still pro-liberty and will respond to the call to support freedom and democracy. the US is now pro-dictatorship, anti-freedkm.
Sorry Baghdad, but the Eurotrash will be dumping the Ukraine Train as soon as Putin turns the screws on them a bit.
Not a chance. Europe knows Russia must be stopped. They are all in. while Republicans want Putin to expand. Truml has killed NATO.
Biden, never spoke with Putin in last 3.5 years look it up, he gutlessly enabled the invasion of Ukraine , just like Obama before him. Guess who it never happened under, and also who had Iran completely locked down, and then Biden gave them the key?
It's embarrassing how transparent it all is and how much some people eat this up. This was clearly provoked by Trump/Vance so they could run with this absolutely silly "Zelensky disrespected America" headline. They need to sway the public opinion against Ukraine so they don't lose popularity when they strong arm them into surrendering to Russia
And the corollary is that zelenskyy knows the US is cutting off Ukraine, so there’s no sense groveling and THeN being cut off. Go out as a man and speak truth to Trump and the world. Be brave.
At least Europe is still pro-liberty and will respond to the call to support freedom and democracy. the US is now pro-dictatorship, anti-freedkm.
I think Zelensky set up Trump and Vance to make sure Russia knew that Zelensky wasn't going to roll over to whatever Trump wants. That makes any future negotiations between the US and Russia futile and puts the ball back in Russia's court to deal with Zelensky directly or through the EU. Russia is no longer in control now that Trump threw his tantrum. And Russia knows that Zelensky is willing to fight without the US. That takes out significant leverage in negotiations.
So, in the end, Trump has just made himself irrelevant in the Ukraine conflict and Zelensky no longer has to cower to US threats of pulling support. Russia will have no easy out in the conflict and has to continue on with its race against the economic clock to see whether it can outlast Ukraine before economic conditions make it impossible to sustain the war.
So it turns out Zelensky called Vance a bitch in Ukrainian during their meeting. Ya that will get you booted from the White House. pic.twitter.com/gTyOpT0886
I think Zelensky set up Trump and Vance to make sure Russia knew that Zelensky wasn't going to roll over to whatever Trump wants. That makes any future negotiations between the US and Russia futile and puts the ball back in Russia's court to deal with Zelensky directly or through the EU. Russia is no longer in control now that Trump threw his tantrum. And Russia knows that Zelensky is willing to fight without the US. That takes out significant leverage in negotiations.
So, in the end, Trump has just made himself irrelevant in the Ukraine conflict and Zelensky no longer has to cower to US threats of pulling support. Russia will have no easy out in the conflict and has to continue on with its race against the economic clock to see whether it can outlast Ukraine before economic conditions make it impossible to sustain the war.
Without U.S. support, Ukraine wouldn't last two weeks.
I think Zelensky set up Trump and Vance to make sure Russia knew that Zelensky wasn't going to roll over to whatever Trump wants. That makes any future negotiations between the US and Russia futile and puts the ball back in Russia's court to deal with Zelensky directly or through the EU. Russia is no longer in control now that Trump threw his tantrum. And Russia knows that Zelensky is willing to fight without the US. That takes out significant leverage in negotiations.
So, in the end, Trump has just made himself irrelevant in the Ukraine conflict and Zelensky no longer has to cower to US threats of pulling support. Russia will have no easy out in the conflict and has to continue on with its race against the economic clock to see whether it can outlast Ukraine before economic conditions make it impossible to sustain the war.
Without U.S. support, Ukraine wouldn't last two weeks.
Zelenskyy doesn't have the cards.
Trump has had enough of Zelensky, he’s finished. He needs to find another country to live.
The secretary of Defense has ordered U.S. Cyber Command to stand down from all planning against Russia, including offensive digital actions, sources tell Recorded Future News.
I think Zelensky set up Trump and Vance to make sure Russia knew that Zelensky wasn't going to roll over to whatever Trump wants. That makes any future negotiations between the US and Russia futile and puts the ball back in Russia's court to deal with Zelensky directly or through the EU. Russia is no longer in control now that Trump threw his tantrum. And Russia knows that Zelensky is willing to fight without the US. That takes out significant leverage in negotiations.
So, in the end, Trump has just made himself irrelevant in the Ukraine conflict and Zelensky no longer has to cower to US threats of pulling support. Russia will have no easy out in the conflict and has to continue on with its race against the economic clock to see whether it can outlast Ukraine before economic conditions make it impossible to sustain the war.
Without U.S. support, Ukraine wouldn't last two weeks.
Zelenskyy doesn't have the cards.
Depends on how the EU and UK respond. The elections in Germany actually went very well for Ukraine. Merz is forming a government with the SPD and will have much more political power with a two party coalition. Scholz had to manage a very tenuous three party coalition and was often frozen when it came time to step up support for Ukraine. Merz is pretty outspoken about upping support for Ukraine and uniting the EU behind Ukraine. Merz already slammed Trump for being Putin's poodle. EU politics are very tricky, but a strong and decisive German government is a big help to move the EU along. And the economic picture in the EU has been improving while things have been flailing in the US. The DAX and FTSE have been very strong so far in 2025. Winter is almost over which ends any talk about needing RU natural gas for a while. Finally, the EU holds about $200 bil in Russian assets. If you want to talk about leverage, telling Putin to take a deal or else the EU will hand $200 bil to Ukraine to buy weapons is a pretty good stick to waive.
Oh, and sorry, I meant to mention that in the (gross) Politico video, he does (finally) admit (I think) to misspeaking.
Gross (but far more harmless) #2 in that video: Harris looking at him like he's her brand new, Rhodes Scholar, just-returned-from-saving-the-world, hunky boyfriend.
On Walz admitting to misspeaking - He was faced by this allegation that he had claimed to have carried weapons in war. It seems clear to me that he acted as a politician (and in this case, I don't blame him, as much as I dislike politicians).
His choices were:
1) Deny that he ever made the claim of having carried weapons in war. This would inevitably lead to an endless discussion of grammar, pauses in speech, etc., just as it has on this thread. In doing so, he would keep this in the news for an indefinite period of time.
Or
2) "Admit" he misspoke. Apologize. And move on. Thereby putting getting this out of the news cycle to the extent possible.
As a politician, the choice was clear (though dishonest).
And the corollary is that zelenskyy knows the US is cutting off Ukraine, so there’s no sense groveling and THeN being cut off. Go out as a man and speak truth to Trump and the world. Be brave.
At least Europe is still pro-liberty and will respond to the call to support freedom and democracy. the US is now pro-dictatorship, anti-freedkm.
I think Zelensky set up Trump and Vance to make sure Russia knew that Zelensky wasn't going to roll over to whatever Trump wants. That makes any future negotiations between the US and Russia futile and puts the ball back in Russia's court to deal with Zelensky directly or through the EU. Russia is no longer in control now that Trump threw his tantrum. And Russia knows that Zelensky is willing to fight without the US. That takes out significant leverage in negotiations.
So, in the end, Trump has just made himself irrelevant in the Ukraine conflict and Zelensky no longer has to cower to US threats of pulling support. Russia will have no easy out in the conflict and has to continue on with its race against the economic clock to see whether it can outlast Ukraine before economic conditions make it impossible to sustain the war.
How long before Trump offers military assistance to Russia? Disco , Noyanke, gnarls….how much can we put you down for?
And the Communist Californians still reelected him.
and Donnie kicked the Ukrainian's azz today. Get Out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JD and Trump did NOT make the deal that Trump bragged about all week? That's a win how?
I didn't read the Art of the Deal, but I'm pretty sure it says the following on page 107: "If you gang up on and attack your negotiating counterpart, and then kick him out and don't get the agreement, you've still done a GREAT job at negotiating."
- the fact that Zelensky did not need an interpreter but Trump needed Vance to interpret the reporter's question in English
- when Trump went on a rant about how he & Putin went through everything together, leading up to the crazy stuff about Hunter Biden's bedroom and bathroom
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