Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Thank you for your very valuable contribution.
Anyone passing on russian propaganda is a traitor to this nation.
OK, Russians again. Even the State Department was concerned about Joe and Hunter Biden involvement with Burisma. Had zero to do with Russia. You are so partisan you continually get duped.
Trollminator wrote:
And to slap you down a little further biff
https://twitter.com/stengel/status/1316457706631372809?s=21
Bumped for a stupid old man. Even rigged knows this one has been debunked, nothing burger.
15_50 wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/321602/extreme-partisan-gaps-early-voting-emerge-year.aspxGood lord you keep swallowing Nate's BS. You libs keep falling into the trap of bad early voting analysis- the dems are supposed to be at least TWICE as many early votes as the GOP. That is CLEARLY not the case in each of the battleground states.
Stop listening to the Nate midgets: Silver & Cohn.
Barnes_Law with some facts:
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1316459903498760194So this poll is accurate and to be believed but others, not so much?
Agip: 538 - an open source election forecast based on aggregate polling, now projects Biden to be ever so slightly more likely to win Georgia
Rigged For Hillary: lol liberal fool falling for stupid early voting nonsense
I just can't....
Things are starting to look very bad for Trump.
Biden is going is practically guaranteed to win DC, MA, HI, VT, MD, CA, NY, DE, RI, WA, CT, IL, a
ME's 1st district, NJ, OR, NM, and VA.
That's 201 electoral votes already.
Biden is heavily heavily, favored to win ME (statewide), CO, NH, MN, MI (first state mentioned that Trump won in 2016), WI (also went Trump in 2016), and NV. That's another 57. Bringing to the total to 258.
And then there's PA. The big tipping point of 2016. Biden is polling 7 points up on Trump (keep in mind in response to the error of 2016 most polls now adjust heavily for geography and education). Clinton didn't even lead by 4. With PA that's now 278 electoral votes, game over.
But for icing on the cake, Biden is polling up by 4 points on Trump in Florida and Arizona, and by 3 in NC. That's 55 electoral votes that would put Biden over 300 electoral votes at 333, or to use hyperbole like Donald Trump, the biggest in history.
Oh and also NE's 2nd district is likely to go blue, so 334.
Ohio and Georgia are complete tossups, as is Maine's 2nd district, but they represent another 30 Electoral votes Biden doesn't even need that are up for grabs.
Trump is basically guaranteed to win WY, WV, OK, ND, ID, KY, AL, AR, SE, NE (Statewide), TN, UT, LA, MI, IN, MT, KS, MO, SC, and NE's 3rd and 1st. That's only 122 electoral votes.
Alaska is likely to still vote Trump, so that's another 3 for 125.
In Texas Trump is only polling 1.5 points ahead. In Iowa he's trailing Biden by half a point. Still I'll be optimistic for him and give him both states. That's still only 169 electoral votes.
By winning all of the states Clinton won (which by all indications will happen) Biden basically gets 232 electoral votes by default.
So Biden is pretty mu h automatically going to get 232 electoral votes, compared to Trumps 125 (but I'll be generous and hand him Texas and Iowa for 169).
Biden needs 38, Trump needs 101.
The battle ground is MI, WI, PA, OH, NC, GA, FL, and AZ representing 135 EC votes together. Biden is significant favored to win in MI, WI, and PA, and slightly favored to win NC, FL, and AZ. Trump is favored in none. Again Biden only needs 38.
It's very possible for Trump to Win, but it's a bit naive to pretend the odds are in his favor right now.
Sharing zero hedge links while labeling others duped.
I suppose self awareness has never been one of your strong points.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
OK, Russians again. Even the State Department was concerned about Joe and Hunter Biden involvement with Burisma. Had zero to do with Russia. You are so partisan you continually get duped.
Grow up. It has everything to do with Russia, and how it's been able to accomplish its goals without any pushback or opposition from the United States over the last four years. And how it wants that state of affairs to continue.
This is a Rudy/Derkach special, and you've been duped.
Derkach’s name has repeatedly come up in connection with unsubstantiated allegations by President Donald Trump, his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and some Republican lawmakers that Hunter Biden used his influence with his father to help Burisma, an energy company on whose board he sat, and that Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire a top prosecutor who had investigated the firm.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-interference-sanctions/u-s-blacklists-ukrainian-accused-of-meddling-in-2020-election-idUSKBN2612PXBut the key point of the article was predicated on false information that Giuliani has been spreading for a long time—and that appears to be linked to a Russian disinformation operation that the Post neglected to note in its article. That is, the Post piece, based on an unproven smear, is in sync with Moscow’s ongoing effort to influence the 2020 election to help President Donald Trump retain power.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/giuliani-and-the-new-york-post-are-pushing-russian-disinformation-its-a-big-test-for-the-media/Gina wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
And to slap you down a little further biff
https://twitter.com/stengel/status/1316457706631372809?s=21Bumped for a stupid old man. Even rigged knows this one has been debunked, nothing burger.
What’cha afraid of? ?
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Gina wrote:
Bumped for a stupid old man. Even rigged knows this one has been debunked, nothing burger.
What’cha afraid of? ?
I’m not afraid of anything you have to offer, just calling out your bullsh!t.
There’s no fool like an old fool. Hold your breath waiting for this one to swing it in Trumps favor, see how that works out you.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-secret-history-of-kimberly-guilfoyles-departure-from-foxYea, I saw a woman just the other day walking with a Trump 2020 shirt. If you believe in family or law and order why would you vote for Biden? Hey we’ll see how it goes. Judge Barrett sure made the Dems look desperate if not sillly.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Yea, I saw a woman just the other day walking with a Trump 2020 shirt. If you believe in family or law and order why would you vote for Biden? Hey we’ll see how it goes. Judge Barrett sure made the Dems look desperate if not sillly.
Incoherent waffle.
Northeast Republican wrote:
So, what happened with the DOJ unmasking investigation? That was going going to be huge! Bigger than Watergate. Did I miss the announcement of the Obama indictment?
;-)
Yep, remember the "Barr Tab" that Rigged said was coming due?
An outrageously stupid thing to say from an outrageously stupid person.
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Regeneron said it does not consider the treatment to have relied on fetal tissue, since the cells were acquired so long ago. The 293T line used continued to divide and grow within a culture for decades, and for use in scientific discovery, even though they originated from fetal tissue, according to experts.
They "are considered 'immortalized' cells (not stem cells) and are a common and widespread tool in research labs," a Regeneron spokesperson told ABC in a statement. The cell line "wasn't used in any other way, and fetal tissue was not used in this research."
Call it whatever you want. They are still abortion cells. And for decades, evangelicals have railed against these abortion stem cell lines and supported legislation to halt all research on them.
Just because they are old does not change where they came from. Nor does it alter the moral calculus.
CORRECT! Rigged has no integrity at all.
^says the guy who’s undies were up his crack about Russia, and turned out to be a Democratic dirty trick....
agip wrote:
Story out of DC is that the stimulus bill is dead until after the election, despite everyone knowing we need it.
Dems won't pass it because they think they can get more from a Biden presidency.
Rs won't pass it because they know trump will lose, and in the new GOP they want to claim to be someone who refused to vote with pelosi. They want to claim to be fiscally responsible.
And Rs want to hamstring the Biden presidency - they don't want to help him out with 2 trillion dollars of stimulus just before he takes office.
Seriously, congress is awful.
I don't like the fact that the Democrats aren't trying hard to work out some sort of compromise here (I'm all for hardball, but there are a lot of people out there who really need some help, and they need it NOW), but this shows the utter stupidity of the GOP. A stimulus bill before the election would definitely help them...not enough to win, but it would help them.
Facts and Logic wrote:
15_50 wrote:
So this poll is accurate and to be believed but others, not so much?
Agip: 538 - an open source election forecast based on aggregate polling, now projects Biden to be ever so slightly more likely to win Georgia
Rigged For Hillary: lol liberal fool falling for stupid early voting nonsense
I just can't....
Things are starting to look very bad for Trump.
Biden is going is practically guaranteed to win DC, MA, HI, VT, MD, CA, NY, DE, RI, WA, CT, IL, a
ME's 1st district, NJ, OR, NM, and VA.
That's 201 electoral votes already.
Biden is heavily heavily, favored to win ME (statewide), CO, NH, MN, MI (first state mentioned that Trump won in 2016), WI (also went Trump in 2016), and NV. That's another 57. Bringing to the total to 258.
And then there's PA. The big tipping point of 2016. Biden is polling 7 points up on Trump (keep in mind in response to the error of 2016 most polls now adjust heavily for geography and education). Clinton didn't even lead by 4. With PA that's now 278 electoral votes, game over.
But for icing on the cake, Biden is polling up by 4 points on Trump in Florida and Arizona, and by 3 in NC. That's 55 electoral votes that would put Biden over 300 electoral votes at 333, or to use hyperbole like Donald Trump, the biggest in history.
Oh and also NE's 2nd district is likely to go blue, so 334.
Ohio and Georgia are complete tossups, as is Maine's 2nd district, but they represent another 30 Electoral votes Biden doesn't even need that are up for grabs.
Trump is basically guaranteed to win WY, WV, OK, ND, ID, KY, AL, AR, SE, NE (Statewide), TN, UT, LA, MI, IN, MT, KS, MO, SC, and NE's 3rd and 1st. That's only 122 electoral votes.
Alaska is likely to still vote Trump, so that's another 3 for 125.
In Texas Trump is only polling 1.5 points ahead. In Iowa he's trailing Biden by half a point. Still I'll be optimistic for him and give him both states. That's still only 169 electoral votes.
By winning all of the states Clinton won (which by all indications will happen) Biden basically gets 232 electoral votes by default.
So Biden is pretty mu h automatically going to get 232 electoral votes, compared to Trumps 125 (but I'll be generous and hand him Texas and Iowa for 169).
Biden needs 38, Trump needs 101.
The battle ground is MI, WI, PA, OH, NC, GA, FL, and AZ representing 135 EC votes together. Biden is significant favored to win in MI, WI, and PA, and slightly favored to win NC, FL, and AZ. Trump is favored in none. Again Biden only needs 38.
It's very possible for Trump to Win, but it's a bit naive to pretend the odds are in his favor right now.
Peoples_Pundit called FL for Trump in 2016 and has destroyed 538's hilariously wrong battleground predictions as well. For 2020, GA is no tossup. It will remain Trump country.
The fact that Nate has OH blue tells you he has no idea what is going on in this election. When you use faulty polls for your formulas, you end up looking like an ass. Silver must be smoking crack with Hunter.
Trump will take NC, FL, AZ (I will give Biden all of ME)- that brings him to 259. He will also flip NH to get him to 263. Now, the paths to 270 are very easy. Even if he loses PA, either WI or MN or MI gets him over the top. Dementia Joe will not sweep the rust belt. In my worst case scenario for Trump, he ends up with 273.
Trump will flip two states next month NH & MN. My prediction remains 313 EV for the Runningart Challenge and become the repeat LR presidential electoral vote champion.
KAG2020
agip wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Wow. I didn't think I would live to see the day when my state went blue. I still have trouble accepting that this is possible.
Nate Cohn, the NYT polls guy, is concerned that some GA polls are underestimating the number of white no-college men in the GA electorate. If this Nate is right. Trump is stil ahead, most likely.
If I had to guess, GA will stay red this time. Doesn't really matter. Biden wins easily without GA, and the country as a whole is moving more left anyway. GA can come out of the dark ages later on down the road.
