Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

TTH wrote:

agip wrote:

the 'arrest angle' is not that you can arrest politicians you disagree with.

The theory is that the MI Gov took away Constitutionally guaranteed rights and therefore crossed a line.

it's not about tax policy or what the speed limit should be.

You need to understand that your gyrations undertaken to make yourself appear as much in the middle as possible make your opinion just as worthless as those on the poles of either argument such as Biff or Sally on the right.

again, I'm not in support of the sheriff. I disagree with him. I'm explaining what he's talking about.

Here, I'll do it again:

Agip: Nazis believed they were the defenders of Western Civilization against communists, Jews and Slavs.

LRC: JFC Agip, why are you defending nazis?

agip wrote:

TTH wrote:

You need to understand that your gyrations undertaken to make yourself appear as much in the middle as possible make your opinion just as worthless as those on the poles of either argument such as Biff or Sally on the right.

again, I'm not in support of the sheriff. I disagree with him. I'm explaining what he's talking about.

Here, I'll do it again:

Agip: Nazis believed they were the defenders of Western Civilization against communists, Jews and Slavs.

LRC: JFC Agip, why are you defending nazis?

Again, you're attempting to present thoughts or ideas as a "middle of the road" poster and jumping through all sorts of hoops to get there to presumably present your point as some sort of "learned" understanding of the situation.

What your attempt does is present your thoughts as completely worthless.

TTH wrote:

agip wrote:

again, I'm not in support of the sheriff. I disagree with him. I'm explaining what he's talking about.

Here, I'll do it again:

Agip: Nazis believed they were the defenders of Western Civilization against communists, Jews and Slavs.

LRC: JFC Agip, why are you defending nazis?

Again, you're attempting to present thoughts or ideas as a "middle of the road" poster and jumping through all sorts of hoops to get there to presumably present your point as some sort of "learned" understanding of the situation.

What your attempt does is present your thoughts as completely worthless.

Your view is that I should not try to explain the world views of characters as they move through the big play of life.

Ok, noted and rejected.

agip wrote:

TTH wrote:

You need to understand that your gyrations undertaken to make yourself appear as much in the middle as possible make your opinion just as worthless as those on the poles of either argument such as Biff or Sally on the right.

again, I'm not in support of the sheriff. I disagree with him. I'm explaining what he's talking about.

Here, I'll do it again:

Agip: Nazis believed they were the defenders of Western Civilization against communists, Jews and Slavs.

LRC: JFC Agip, why are you defending nazis?

Ummm . . . everybody knew what the Sheriff was saying from the very first post on this topic. But thank you for explaining the blindingly obvious.

I think that this fits better:

LRC: I ran as fast as I could but I couldn't beat him.

agip: What the poster is saying is that he ran as fast as he could but he just didn't have enough to win the race. I'm not sure that the rest of you are bright enough and unbiased enough to understand what he was saying so I'm happy to provide my genuine, unbiased brilliance to help you understand.

agip wrote:

TTH wrote:

Again, you're attempting to present thoughts or ideas as a "middle of the road" poster and jumping through all sorts of hoops to get there to presumably present your point as some sort of "learned" understanding of the situation.

What your attempt does is present your thoughts as completely worthless.

Your view is that I should not try to explain the world views of characters as they move through the big play of life.

Ok, noted and rejected.

Thank you for your brilliance. What would we do without you. Surely none of us understood the "rationale" that the sheriff was trying to hide behind to justify blatantly criminal acts.

Thanks goodness we have you around to "try to explain the world views of characters as they move through the big play of life. "

Smorbun wrote:

1101 wrote:

You have absolutely got to be kidding me!

If "the MI Gov took away Constitutionally guaranteed rights" then you have every right to challenge the governor's actions in a court of law. If you think that believing that the Governor took away rights gives one the right to "arrest" the governor then you are as batsh!t crazy as Rigged and Sally. No, make that more batsh!t crazy - even Rigged and Sally have not shown themselves to be be crazy enough to support this nonsense (yet).

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Heck, why stop at governor - some buddies of mine think that Trump has trampled on my "Constitutionally guaranteed rights". So, we've decided to go "arrest" him.

Take a minute, agip. Step back and think about what you are saying. Because it is absolutely INSANE.

Yeah agip, you are wrong on this one. Let it go.

+1.

agip take a step back and think this one through, you’re better than this.

PA will remain red.

KAG2020

SeattleSilver wrote:

agip wrote:

yeah I agree..I don't think the sheriff was excusing the perps, he was just explaining what they might have been thinking. Trying to tell the full story.

But his version isn't part of the "whole story" unless he knows they were going for an arrest rather than a kidnapping. I wouldn't have a problem with him explaining the arrest angle if the FBI hadn't pointed out that after the group grabbed the Gov, they were going to take her to a remote Wisconsin location an conduct a trial. I'm quite sure that the Michigan law on citizen arrest for an active felony doesn't authorize a citizen trial.

And note that the plot also included blowing up a bridge to distract the Governor's security detail. So this certainly was not planned as a citizens' arrest per Michigan law.

Gina wrote:

Smorbun wrote:

Yeah agip, you are wrong on this one. Let it go.

+1.

agip take a step back and think this one through, you’re better than this.

This stuff is the reason why so many think Trump is a facist. The proud boys / his supporters are able to do anything they want and it's justified because any other ideology is a enemy of the state and "law and order" must be maintained. It's pretty easy to see why some will see parallels between them and the Black Shirts or the SA.

Hell the rhetoric about socialist and Communist is exactly the same that Hitler and Mussolini used. His propoganda is straight out the facist play book. People like you bending over backwards to justify the action of these terrorist trying to kidnap a governor, Kyle Rittenhouse, or the literal Nazis in Charlottesville, are making the same mistakes the Germans and Italians did in the 20s and 30s. Wake up.

SeattleSilver wrote:

And note that the plot also included blowing up a bridge to distract the Governor's security detail. So this certainly was not planned as a citizens' arrest per Michigan law.

Summary:

Ciro: This video is terrifying (shows video of sheriff trying to justify criminal actions).

*ahem*: Huh? I don't see a problem with him in the video

agip: yeah I agree..I don't think the sheriff was excusing the perps

LRC: That's nuts. He was very, very obviously trying to provide an excuse for the perps. And one which is insane and dangerous.

agip: I am trying to explain the world views of characters as they move through the big play of life.

LRC: Thank you for your brilliance in being unable to see why the video is indeed terrifying.

I would just like to add that worldwide this is a terrifying time to be alive. In the west democratic institutions are falling. The USA has a president that obviously wants to be a dictator ala Putin and is espousing facist rhetoric. Within the EU we have leaders like Victor Orban seizing power and rising extremist movements. The former Soviet Union is now made up of almost entirely Oligarchies. There a virtually no democracies in Africa, instead dictatorship has been the go to model there. In South America we've seen Brazil elect Bolsinaro, who openly wants to restore a military dictatorship. Then in China we have a one party state implementing Stalin style population control using 21st century technology creating Orwell's worst nightmare, and worst still this state believes that they are entitled to being the world superpower and won't spare any expense to achieve that goal, and they very well may've already overtaken the US for the position as the world's most influential and powerful nation. These are scary times.

agip wrote:

Dan Kahneman wrote:

The sheriff reflects very poorly on members of his groups including police officers, Americans and basically all people.

Barr and Trump have been silent about this very organized dangerous terrorist plot. Shameful.

The theory is that the MI Gov took away Constitutionally guaranteed rights and therefore crossed a line.

And the problem with that logic is that the courts already decided that everything the governor did was constitutional.

L L wrote:

Can Democrats insist all voting senators submit a negative test before they get in the same room and vote?

No.

agip wrote:

TTH wrote:

Again, you're attempting to present thoughts or ideas as a "middle of the road" poster and jumping through all sorts of hoops to get there to presumably present your point as some sort of "learned" understanding of the situation.

What your attempt does is present your thoughts as completely worthless.

Your view is that I should not try to explain the world views of characters as they move through the big play of life.

Ok, noted and rejected.

Your view is that you are the smartest man in the room which you are clearly not.

Fat hurts wrote:

L L wrote:

Can Democrats insist all voting senators submit a negative test before they get in the same room and vote?

No.

And who created that rule?

It could not be McConnell because won't get near anyone who tested positive or is not wearing a mask. He has not been to the White House since early August.

"I haven’t actually been to the White House since August the 6th, because my impression was their approach to how to handle this is different from mine and what I insisted that we do in the Senate, which is to wear a mask and practice social distancing," McConnell said.

TTH wrote:

agip wrote:

Ok, noted and rejected.

Your view is that you are the smartest man in the room which you are clearly not.

Agip does have that "problem." He is just like Trump in that manner.

Runningart2004 wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Sure Biff - gotta love how a few months ago you were about the polls and betting odds, but suddenly you discovered those are bad indicators... I almost feel bad for you.. ok I lied, no I don’t.

Because he can't filter out his bias. If the polls showed Trump ahead or at least within the margin of error I would be less confident.

There would be no Runningart Challenge if Trump was up 5-10%.

Alan

You already know when Nate Silver is wrong again, he'll start writing crap like, "I gave Trump a 20% chance to win, and not 0%, so technically my model was right." It will be another "cover your ass" excuse. He's such a tool, a fraud & soon to be unemployed.

Also, watch out for muh polls to magically tighten in last 7-10 days before election day, That will represent the reality as the D+ oversamples are removed. Then, Nate Silver will declare, "see, we're an accurate pollster!" just to save face.

Enjoy your loss.

Trump had to step off the White House stage (balcony) after just 18 minutes of his illegal political rally on the White House lawn. That does not bode well for him in his personal war with COVID. The lingering effects are yet to come. Yes, it can get worse.