Robert Young fakes run across America

Had to split up the post because LRC apparently declares your post spam if it has too many links.

113 wrote:

rojo wrote:

1) Since this thread started three days ago, how many miles has he run?

2) How many miles per day was he running before this thread was started?

3) How many miles did he run in the three days before this thread was started?

At 6am on June 7, he is in Clinton, MO. At this moment (4:00 eastern on June 10) he is in Warrenton, MO. That's 166 miles in 3 days and 10 hours. At most, that's 50 miles/day.

Prior to that he'd been reporting 70 and 80 mile days. I can't get more specific then that because the tracking data has been taken down.

I've asked for video of just 2-3 miles at claimed 5:30-6:00 pace claimed for two separate 25 mile runs in the same day. Instead Facebook posts of him walking.

I've offered $1000 if this guy can run one day at what he has been claiming to do daily since the start of the trip. Haven't heard one response.

The truth is he got caught and is no scrambling. Now going legit and has dropped to 40-ish miles a day.

Lastly, let's stop calling these 26 mile runs "marathons." I ran in college and after and never did I call a run of 26 miles or would count it as a marathon.

I am amazed by this cult like following and outright crazy explanations.

noobrunner wrote:

Mapmyrun lets you enter whatever by building maps of repeat courses and copying them. Wouldn't say that means much of anything in either direction; I certainly wouldn't bother rebuilding the whole distance every time.

Unless those were uploaded from a GPS originally and you can find some leftover data proving he manipulated it, I'd say it's more or less zero proof of anything for anyone since the whole site is based on creating your own maps and logging your own times.

Well it is certainly another piece to suggest that he has manipulated/lied about his past accomplishments to create the narrative he wants. Why else would he publicly post that he'd run his 20th marathon in 17 days? Sure, mapmyrun couldn't be used as evidence to prove he ran those 'marathons,' but it certainly supports the case that he's making up a lot of his history.

Changed my mind - He Cheated wrote:

crete wrote:

He says they took off in fear in the van ... yet they were going 7 mph. Doesn't add up... you think they'd peel out and speed away instead of crawling at 7mph.

48 hours and that is the best story they can come up with?

Unbelievable - no literally Unbelievable .

Caused more questions than answers.

What about this video -

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMRbDzZKAQnEBr05jv51pA4Dp6PdrFn_SxfkB-eiv6aOODZP5cddbPpWlIeKrEA0Q?key=WkNmVUJhYzhiLWtTWlNjUTVMMElaZ2FvTjhwWkxn

Where is Rob???

Oh my ... these guys are TOTAL amateurs.

Sorry, but they have zero credibility. Will be funny to see how this plays out now that the opportunity to cheat is greatly diminished.

Time to pull the injury card and stop embarrassing yourselves any further guys.

document it wrote:

crete wrote:

This is pretty damming for him. This shows he was creating fakes of his runs on mapmyrun. I can't imagine why he would do this other than to create faked evidence of the feat in 2014. He should explain this to remove suspicion...

please copy those faked pages

Amazing sleuthing! And yes copy those pages ASAP because they will be gone in an instant once Rob's crew gets wind. Might be the evidence that proves his unbelievable genesis story is indeed a complete farce.

One note though, is this GPS data, or a hand-mapped course? If I recall mapmyrun has a "copy workout" feature or something where you can copy a route and put in a different time & date for hand-mapped courses.

Just had a request from Kip, Rossi, Rosie Ruiz, and dane - they need a lift as they all want to help Robert with the "running" of the entire route. They apparently need an RV driver to help them get to Robert as they all do not know how to drive at certain speeds, distances, etc.

dane - RV and Legal Threat experience

Rossi - Shirt changing and pic dodging

Kip - dentistry

Rosie Ruiz - calling a taxi when the RV tire goes flat

Hi Rob

noobrunner wrote:

Mapmyrun lets you enter whatever by building maps of repeat courses and copying them. Wouldn't say that means much of anything in either direction; I certainly wouldn't bother rebuilding the whole distance every time.

Unless those were uploaded from a GPS originally and you can find some leftover data proving he manipulated it, I'd say it's more or less zero proof of anything for anyone since the whole site is based on creating your own maps and logging your own times.

Changed my mind - He Cheated wrote:

crete wrote:

He says they took off in fear in the van ... yet they were going 7 mph. Doesn't add up... you think they'd peel out and speed away instead of crawling at 7mph.

48 hours and that is the best story they can come up with?

Unbelievable - no literally Unbelievable .

Caused more questions than answers.

What about this video -

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMRbDzZKAQnEBr05jv51pA4Dp6PdrFn_SxfkB-eiv6aOODZP5cddbPpWlIeKrEA0Q?key=WkNmVUJhYzhiLWtTWlNjUTVMMElaZ2FvTjhwWkxn

Where is Rob???

I thought this video was damning as well, but I was too hasty.

Turns out that they were scared by someone guy with a headlamp coming up behind them, so Rob hoped in the RV and they "sped" away because the guy might have had a knife.

Sincere apologies for questioning your Robert. That makes perfect sense.

Is history just repeating itself? "Robert Young (c.1657–1700) was an English forger and cheat."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Young_

(forger)

Heavyd84 wrote:

Yeah all mapmyrun does is show the mileage of routes based on maps, not you actually going out and running it and tracking you. So he probably just mapped the route and said he ran it again. This doesn't really prove anything. Normally you run the same routes day in and day out, so creating new routes for each run would be annoyingly meticulous.

You can do it either way. You can have it track you or you can enter a route.

Like the person who is getting the "hi Rob" treatment said, he may have created the route and then just used that same route to record his next outings.

The three progressively faster marathons in his first 30 hours of running* are bs, but the mapmyrun files are not smoking guns.

*he had been doing lots of weekend 5k races, so he was an active runner and not a couch potato like he implies in that story.

What about this video -

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMRbDzZKAQnEBr05jv51pA4Dp6PdrFn_SxfkB-eiv6aOODZP5cddbPpWlIeKrEA0Q?key=WkNmVUJhYzhiLWtTWlNjUTVMMElaZ2FvTjhwWkxn

Where is Rob???

Not to give them ideas, but couldn't they claim they'd gotten a ways ahead of or behind Rob and he came through before or after those videos?

Surprised they haven't said that yet, but it took them two days to come up with the lame knife-wielding fiend story.

Yet again, a bunch of basement trolls who are jealous of someone else's abilities.

Just because none of you can go from couch to 3 marathons (the 2nd two well under 4 hours) in a span of 30 hours, you think no one can.

You probably also can't take off from the foul line and dunk a basketball .. does that mean that Michael Jordan couldn't do it?

Just because you can't run a 10k at a faster pace than your 5k PR, you think no one can.

Just because you can't run a sub-31 minute 10k split during a marathon, you think no one can.

Haters ... hacks ... homewreckers.

Dude that's not Rob. It's just a smart poster who is cautioning us to think about what the mapmyrun data represents before knowing whether or not it can really be used to nail this fraud.

Silent Rob wrote:

Hi Rob

noobrunner wrote:

Mapmyrun lets you enter whatever by building maps of repeat courses and copying them. Wouldn't say that means much of anything in either direction; I certainly wouldn't bother rebuilding the whole distance every time.

Unless those were uploaded from a GPS originally and you can find some leftover data proving he manipulated it, I'd say it's more or less zero proof of anything for anyone since the whole site is based on creating your own maps and logging your own times.

He's now claiming he ran past the camera 15 minutes after the RV goes slowly by! It never stops!

"Video / CCTV footage was posted of the RV going through Emporia. I ask for the owner to post up to 15 or so mins after the rv went through as you might just find me on the screen as the van tried to stay with me but I dropped off the pace... I think that is what happened

So I beg for the owner to continue watching or/and post a lengthy video before and after the RV"

triathleteguru wrote:

Here is their explanation for the incident that started this whole thread:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1024241607660097

Who is this "Michael"?

triathleteguru wrote:

Is history just repeating itself? "Robert Young (c.1657–1700) was an English forger and cheat."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Young_

(forger)

I see your Rob and raise you this Rob:

valkvjlvajla wrote:

He's now claiming he ran past the camera 15 minutes after the RV goes slowly by! It never stops!

"Video / CCTV footage was posted of the RV going through Emporia. I ask for the owner to post up to 15 or so mins after the rv went through as you might just find me on the screen as the van tried to stay with me but I dropped off the pace... I think that is what happened

So I beg for the owner to continue watching or/and post a lengthy video before and after the RV"

oops. That's what I suggested a few minutes ago. Sorry guys.

valkvjlvajla wrote:

He's now claiming he ran past the camera 15 minutes after the RV goes slowly by! It never stops!

"Video / CCTV footage was posted of the RV going through Emporia. I ask for the owner to post up to 15 or so mins after the rv went through as you might just find me on the screen as the van tried to stay with me but I dropped off the pace... I think that is what happened

So I beg for the owner to continue watching or/and post a lengthy video before and after the RV"

I still do not understand why he chooses to run behind the RV? It would be healthier and safer for him to run 100 ft in front of it. The headlamps would light the road for him at night and he would be protected from anyone approaching too quickly from behind. This would also allow a dashcam in the RV to keep a record of his run.

valkvjlvajla wrote:

He's now claiming he ran past the camera 15 minutes after the RV goes slowly by! It never stops!

15 minutes? That's three miles if he's had his coffee.