NEW Atlantic Region XC *2009* thread

First mile in 4:50, 2 miles in 10-flat (Ramsey a couple steps in from of Mwenda).

Keene State just recently dropped out of the national rankings. I believe it was because they got stomped at Open New Englands. I don't remember exactly, or feel like looking it up, but I think they were ranked in the top 20 at some point.

Is no one else going to point out that Heymann ran 24:17 alone? Everyone knows he's good, but that's unreal.

It hasn't been mentioned yet how Heymann ran 24:17 on the Saratoga course today. That's a pretty incredible time on that course. 47 seconds faster than Kosgei has run at toga (granted Kosgei probably has never run all out there). I would say that he's the sure favorite to take 2nd at nationals.

mikejones999 wrote:

Keene State just recently dropped out of the national rankings. I believe it was because they got stomped at Open New Englands. I don't remember exactly, or feel like looking it up, but I think they were ranked in the top 20 at some point.

Is no one else going to point out that Heymann ran 24:17 alone? Everyone knows he's good, but that's unreal.

Keene was more like tenth or something....and your right it is unreal, so unreal that its wrong it was like 25:30 or something, they messed up the times.

SPAC's course was nearly a shit show today. Pouring rain, massive puddles and lots of mud on the turns. However under the same weather circumstances other courses would have ran alot slower. I was surprised that the course wasnt completely ruined because it had poured non stop for over a day, but it was still significantly slower than it would have been under dry conditions.

Is heymans times really wrong on the results?

SPAC is a pretty weather resistant course, the only significant grass part is the 400m of the start, from there is pavement, gravel, or packed dirt. If it rains all the course developes is a standing puddle with a fast and firm surface below it. Wind has more of a effect than rain does. Not saying the times aren't affected, but just not as much as you would think.

Deuce wrote:

SPAC is a pretty weather resistant course, the only significant grass part is the 400m of the start, from there is pavement, gravel, or packed dirt. If it rains all the course developes is a standing puddle with a fast and firm surface below it. Wind has more of a effect than rain does. Not saying the times aren't affected, but just not as much as you would think.

concur.

Deuce wrote:

SPAC is a pretty weather resistant course, the only significant grass part is the 400m of the start, from there is pavement, gravel, or packed dirt. If it rains all the course developes is a standing puddle with a fast and firm surface below it. Wind has more of a effect than rain does. Not saying the times aren't affected, but just not as much as you would think.

Agree. Both of the uphills are packed gravel as well, not affected much by rain (I ran there dozens of times in HS).

I ran yesterday at the RPI Invite at Saratoga. The time was screwed up. Heymann really ran 25:17 and the rest of the times were legit. Also a very poor showing from Yerne, 27:35? Absolutely terrible.

Runner at SPAC wrote:

I ran yesterday at the RPI Invite at Saratoga. The time was screwed up. Heymann really ran 25:17 and the rest of the times were legit. Also a very poor showing from Yerne, 27:35? Absolutely terrible.

Rumor has it that the Plattsburgh team was supposed to be doing a tempo and everyone broke away... Except Yernye. At least someone can keep their composure in the heat of the moment.

impossible to tell if they really were or not only plattsburgh knows that. we will soon find out in 6 days at SUNYACs, or at regionals.

Looks like rochester sat out one of their top 5 (craig baumgartner) and slu's seth jackson wasn't present either.

I don't think chichester is better than dan ramsey. It seemed like Ramsey was willing himself upon the course rather than taking it nice and easy to run for the win. But then again, when doesn't it look like ramsey is forcing himself to run.

well the thing is wrote:

impossible to tell if they really were or not only plattsburgh knows that. we will soon find out in 6 days at SUNYACs, or at regionals.

They are overrated like I said and this race just proves it. If they were doing a workout why wasn't heyman doing it also.

g-max wrote:

Runner at SPAC wrote:

I ran yesterday at the RPI Invite at Saratoga. The time was screwed up. Heymann really ran 25:17 and the rest of the times were legit. Also a very poor showing from Yerne, 27:35? Absolutely terrible.

Rumor has it that the Plattsburgh team was supposed to be doing a tempo and everyone broke away... Except Yernye. At least someone can keep their composure in the heat of the moment.

You are obviuosly from platssburgh or like to ride their cock.

feboavboa wrote:

You are obviuosly from platssburgh or like to ride their cock.

yuo rae ubvisusvly na idoit sicne yuo atcualyl buleeve taht carp.

This isn't true at all. Yerne had a bad race and to prove it, he expressed his disappointment at the race. I saw him pretty down multiple points after the finish. This course was basically under water (besides the uphills and downhills), and their team cannot tempo that fast, not even heymann can tempo a 25:17 8k. It's just proof that Oneonta is moving up in ranks, and is becoming a threat for a 3rd place finish at SUNYAC, not just Plattsburgh or Fredonia having the automatic spot.

Runner at SPAC wrote:

This isn't true at all. Yerne had a bad race and to prove it, he expressed his disappointment at the race. I saw him pretty down multiple points after the finish. This course was basically under water (besides the uphills and downhills), and their team cannot tempo that fast, not even heymann can tempo a 25:17 8k. It's just proof that Oneonta is moving up in ranks, and is becoming a threat for a 3rd place finish at SUNYAC, not just Plattsburgh or Fredonia having the automatic spot.

agreed

If oneonta cannot best plattsburgh on their worst possible day when oneonta had their best possible day they have no shot at a meet that actually matters. Look at the Lehigh results, plattsburgh's top 5 at spac was their 1-4-5-2-8 guys. It is however Plattsburgs second bad race in a row, and significantly worse than their last, so hopefully they are not self destructing.

gghhgghhgg wrote:

I think the order will be:

Cortland

Geneseo

Plattsburgh

Fredonia

Brockport

Oneonta

Oswego

Buff State

New Paltz

Potsdam

why no love for SUNYIT??