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I'll save most of my thoughts for my own set of predicitons which will come out later this week/early next week. Working on a little "something special" this year. In general, your observations seem reasonable...however, I have 2 questions:1.) Are you serious when you state that if they were healthy, Ship could challenge for a top-2 finish? I'm not sure even a healthy Haven team could do that this year, but I'm quite confident a healthy Ship team could not. 2.) Hmmmm....everybody is convinced that Weiss & Reagan are going to finish 1-2. That is...everybody but me. I do believe that Weiss will win...but, I think Reagan will finish 3rd or 4th. More to come on that...Now, on a completely different note, I have another question. Assuming the Rock guys make it to Nats, which of the following best describes what Pap will be wearing on race day:A.) That crazy whaling hat that he picked up in AlaskaB.) Not one...not two...but three mega-sized camera lenses around his neckC.) Jeans that are rolled up...not in a fashionable way, but rather in a way that looks like he is ready for any flash flood that Joplin, MO could throw his wayD.) All of the aboveHoovis

Hoovis 2,

The reason IMO lab attendent said Ship would have a shot at contending with Slippery Rock if we were all healthy for 2nd, is because Gracey and Neyhart are just as good, if not better than Jeremy Brady. That would potentially give us 5 guys in the top-25, or even top-20.......but Gracey and Neyhart are redshirting so this is just hypothetical, I just don't believe it's THAT crazy of an idea to think we be up there challenging for 2nd.

i know dirt's mentioned it on here before, but looked into what cooper, from weselyn, and a solo sub 32 is quite impressive. looks like he will definitely contend for one of the individual spots for nats.

good video with Carney in it. Shows them training in Boulder. A high schooler I coached last year, runs for CU this year and he loves it up there. Sounds like fun, best of luck Carney.

Jeans, jean jacket and a blue sweat shirt.

Brown boots, darker blue jeans. Huge belt buckle (look for it!) Becuase he has slimmed down so much this past summer he will definitely be hiking up his pants here and there no doubt. Up top he'll be sporting either...the Carhart heavy duty hoodie/jacket which is black or the SRU "Rock Distance" green jacket.

gauranteed!

ok gotta go teach 2nd period later folks!

This is an interesting off topic. Some of the coaches in the PSAC have unique styles. Who will be dressed in what? Watts will have those lime green shoes and Papa is his own. Who else will be in what?

Jim and Karen will undoubtedly be wearing bicycles...

personally, my favorite is that big tall scary guy from IUP. I dont know his name, he is one of their coaches i think. But he is big, he is tall, and he is scary. I'll be lookin out for him at PSAC's no doubt.

That'd be Johnny K. Haha nothing scary about him other than maybe how someone can be that enthusiastic about everything all the time, definitely one of the nicest people you'll ever meet though. He's alum that stayed in the area and ran with the team so much that Fry eventually made him an assistant coach. There's your history lesson for the week, tune in next time when we dive into the world of underground tricycle racing.

Yeah, every year I try and get out to Penn Relays. I missed last year for the first time in well over a decade, but have already booked my flight back for this year. One of my favorite parts of the meet is being down on the infield during the Thursday night distance races. Fry (IUP) is usually there. Pap (Rock) is usually there. Watts (Boro) is always there. Spence (Ship) is always there. I love talking with each of these guys...they all have their own unique styles and approaches to things, but mostly I love it becaues they are all just such interesting characters. Also, from time to time, you get to see/converse with other PSAC'ers. I often hang with Shaf (IUP), usually see Matt Hurst (Ship), have run into Argle-bargle/Mike Ellebarger (Ship), talked with Laughlin (Rock), Rivera (Boro), and many others over the years. I know it's a ways out and nobody's thinking of track, but keep it in mind and come down to Franklin Field if you can swing it. P.S. jake, nice call on the carhart hoodie. classic. Hoovis

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This is an interesting off topic. Some of the coaches in the PSAC have unique styles. Who will be dressed in what? Watts will have those lime green shoes and Papa is his own. Who else will be in what?

Do go check this out...it's well worth it. That's awesome...favorite quote:

"Carney up there ran 27:43...that's the new 28:30. 10 years ago if he would've done that he'd be signing 6-figure deals."

-- Pete Julian

Plus, the whole damn video is freakin' great. I'm boltin' from the office in a few moments to go run in the mountains...don't know how anybody could watch that video and not have to go out the door for a run.

Hoovis

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good video with Carney in it. Shows them training in Boulder. A high schooler I coached last year, runs for CU this year and he loves it up there. Sounds like fun, best of luck Carney.[/quote]

Could Weiss be the next James Carney or Steve Spence? I think if anybody in the conference is going to go on and be a star it is going to be Chris Clark, there is something about him that just makes me think his best days are ahead of him. Good luck to both and you def make the PSAC look good

Spence is one B.A.M.F!!!

that cris clark is nasty fast. If he was runnin this year I would give cal a shot at the top 5, too bad for them he's not. Maybe next year for cal.

When talking about post colligiate potential one would have to include Cummings on any list. While this is a Cross Country thread, keep in mind that over the past several years his 2nd place finish in the 1500 is still the highest place of any distance runner in the PSAC.

To Clarify, in recent years he has the highest place - not, certainly not all time.

I see Russell wearing an LHU XC polo shirt, likely Crimson, though White is possible. If it's warm, khaki shorts, otherwise blue jeans.

Keith White was the best back in the day wearing the dress suits to meets, but I think that was only indoor track though. Might be wrong, can't remember back that far.