This goes back to what I have always thought about her she trains hard rather than smart doing what she enjoys rather than what will give her a better time and usually that involves to much mileage or speed work.
I also think her injury is more a result of overtraining than she's admitting. She had increased her hard runs just before it happened.
She was very lucky previously hopefully she does not get into an injury cycle as so many others do. She needs to show the injury the respect it deserves and air on the side of caution not trying to rush it as it appears from the last video she is doing.
To be fair to her, she has taken a lot of time to recover, not running for 8-10weeks or something and her return to run program has been very conservative.
She has taken 10 or so weeks to build backup to only about 70km a week and this was her first track session.
Compare this to Fenton who has an injury, has one or two weeks off an then is doing 100km+ again the next week.
Fair point.
It was just the conversation with her trainer where she appeared to be wanting to push it.
Does feel like the balance is tilted towards people with a bit of money already behind them. Think Matt Fox was from similarish stock, going to private school with Freddie Ovett? Some level of privilege anyway.
Shout out to the more (subjectively) normal ones: FOD runner, Two Running Brooms, Cole Gibbens, FENTON, Marm, Ryan Thompson, Welsh Runner, plenty of others
Welsh Runner is not "normal"
Shout out to Its On Andy. Some decent results for a guy who seems to know absolutely nothing about running. He is hilarious to view on Strava. He peaked at 130k and is aiming for a sub 3:10!
His taper is the stuff of legends. 130k, 126k, 106k, 55k and now in race week he has ran 5k all week. He really hasn't a clue what he's doing. I'm amazed he hasn't seriously injury himself at some point.
He's talking about a negative split in Seville but more likely to "do a Fordy" and walk it in
There we go then. It’s On Andy achieves a satisfying negative split while LR’s darling child Norwegian Singles King DNFs. You love to see it! x
I’m probably going to get downvoted to oblivion for this because people don’t like him, but I’ll just come out and say it: FENTON is a really, really good runner who has achieved superb PBs in every distance bar the marathon (yet). You may not like him but facts are stubborn things. Well done Ben. Also Hugo Fry was 21 seconds off mogging Jakob looooooool
Yes he's a good distance runner.
In other news Ellis Cross of Team Makou runs 2:10.05 in Seville on marathon debut. He's a very good distance runner, fair play to him. His coach will be glowing.
Cultists in shambles today as their working class hero started his Sevilla marathon way too fast and then dropped out because of "hip issues" out of the blue. Nothing to do with overpacing, no sir!
Heard local reports Nick actually ran back a few miles to give Mr Poc a health Boomshakalaka (and potentially save his life) but it was too little too late.
Cultists in shambles today as their working class hero started his Sevilla marathon way too fast and then dropped out because of "hip issues" out of the blue. Nothing to do with overpacing, no sir!
Heard local reports Nick actually ran back a few miles to give Mr Poc a health Boomshakalaka (and potentially save his life) but it was too little too late.
Sipoc is one of the good guys and I’d never take joy in anyone dropping out of a marathon (with the possible exception of the BPN bros) but I am getting some grim satisfaction at seeing the cult in the other thread being taken down a peg. And this is coming from someone who loves threshold training and done a tonne of it. Their arrogance is unbelievable. They literally think it’s a “hack” for running which all the other top coaches hadn’t discovered yet which makes you guaranteed to get fast and never get injured when it’s actually a concept which has been known about for at least 35 years lol
Shout out to Its On Andy. Some decent results for a guy who seems to know absolutely nothing about running. He is hilarious to view on Strava. He peaked at 130k and is aiming for a sub 3:10!
His taper is the stuff of legends. 130k, 126k, 106k, 55k and now in race week he has ran 5k all week. He really hasn't a clue what he's doing. I'm amazed he hasn't seriously injury himself at some point.
He's talking about a negative split in Seville but more likely to "do a Fordy" and walk it in
There we go then. It’s On Andy achieves a satisfying negative split while LR’s darling child Norwegian Singles King DNFs. You love to see it! x
Andy maguire missed target 3:10:52thats with strange I thought the miles he was doing he’d easily do 3:10
I’m probably going to get downvoted to oblivion for this because people don’t like him, but I’ll just come out and say it: FENTON is a really, really good runner who has achieved superb PBs in every distance bar the marathon (yet). You may not like him but facts are stubborn things. Well done Ben. Also Hugo Fry was 21 seconds off mogging Jakob looooooool
One of those PBs even came in miserable conditions during the scorching heat at Vitality 10k.
Griff Duncan is at it again with a fresh 9 mile "progression run" in which he failed to progress or hold his goal marathon pace for the last two miles.
I think this guy is going to show up at the Mesa marathon, try to go out in 1:30, and not even make it to the half that quickly before either giving up or stumbling home with a 10 minute positive split. His threshold pace is maybe 7:00 give or take 5 seconds. But he's hell bent on the idea that is marathon pace is 6:52.
YouTuber Griff Duncan goes out in 1:28:37 at the Mesa marathon and stumbles home devastated with a 9 minute positive split for a 3:07:41. Despite a 1000 foot drop, he fails to PR despite being in much better fitness than he was when he ran a "PR" at another downhill marathon. He went out too fast for his fitness, hell bent on the idea that his marathon pace is 6:52 at worst.
I would say on flat ground, his threshold pace isn't too much under 6:50 these days. Griff disputes this on these pages in a whiny tirade talking up times his legs can't run. The results speak for themselves. Hope to see a lesson of humility and respect for the marathon learned, but somehow I doubt this.
Nico Felicia (BPN) DNF at this ridiculous downhill course. It’s a joke these courses exist as the PBs people claim are not comparable to a looped course but they never mention it
Sage finished in basically half the time so big win for Sage in that feud. Also, did he run the full distance, the splits look very believable but Kofuzi making his Strava with 30k followers private two weeks before his big ultra debut is so, so sus!
Cultists in shambles today as their working class hero started his Sevilla marathon way too fast and then dropped out because of "hip issues" out of the blue. Nothing to do with overpacing, no sir!
Heard local reports Nick actually ran back a few miles to give Mr Poc a health Boomshakalaka (and potentially save his life) but it was too little too late.
Sipoc is one of the good guys and I’d never take joy in anyone dropping out of a marathon (with the possible exception of the BPN bros) but I am getting some grim satisfaction at seeing the cult in the other thread being taken down a peg. And this is coming from someone who loves threshold training and done a tonne of it. Their arrogance is unbelievable. They literally think it’s a “hack” for running which all the other top coaches hadn’t discovered yet which makes you guaranteed to get fast and never get injured when it’s actually a concept which has been known about for at least 35 years lol
I get you but sub-threshold training wasn't around in the late '80s and early '90s!
Cultists in shambles today as their working class hero started his Sevilla marathon way too fast and then dropped out because of "hip issues" out of the blue. Nothing to do with overpacing, no sir!
Heard local reports Nick actually ran back a few miles to give Mr Poc a health Boomshakalaka (and potentially save his life) but it was too little too late.
Those easy running hobby joggers really live rent free in your head, eh? :D
YouTuber Griff Duncan goes out in 1:28:37 at the Mesa marathon and stumbles home devastated with a 9 minute positive split for a 3:07:41. Despite a 1000 foot drop, he fails to PR despite being in much better fitness than he was when he ran a "PR" at another downhill marathon. He went out too fast for his fitness, hell bent on the idea that his marathon pace is 6:52 at worst.
I would say on flat ground, his threshold pace isn't too much under 6:50 these days. Griff disputes this on these pages in a whiny tirade talking up times his legs can't run. The results speak for themselves. Hope to see a lesson of humility and respect for the marathon learned, but somehow I doubt this.
Nico Felicia (BPN) DNF at this ridiculous downhill course. It’s a joke these courses exist as the PBs people claim are not comparable to a looped course but they never mention it
Mesa isn’t that crazy. 1100 loss 300 gain. For comparison Boston 1300 loss 800 gain
McMurray (physio) 3:38 2nd 1500 UK Indoors beating Foggdog into 4th. Foggdog has no change of pace whatsoever and may as well step up to the marathon now.