exthrower wrote:
If the goofball Fields was trying to kill people why wouldn't he steer into the crowds of people instead rear ending a line of stalled cars?
you mean like this?
And I wait for you to call people named Mohammed who kill innocents 'goofball.'
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/confederate-monuments-p_2.jpg?w=620DiscoGary wrote:
Just This wrote:OK, without looking it up, who said this concerning James Alex Fields:
"When you’re under attack ... you panic and you do things that are stupid and you do things that are wrong,â€
a) Disco Gary or
b) David Duke
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"then BAM! Something hits his car hard and he can't see what it is, he doesn't know what will happen next because BLM people have been known to drag people out of their cars and beat them up, so he panics and hits the gas to try to get out of there.
That's what I think happened. Was it the right thing to do? No. Was it an explicit act of terrorism. No."
a) Disco Gary or
b) David Duke
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OR
c) Disco Gary IS David Duke. Right age, Right world-view. Right language. Anyone know if David Duke was a runner when he was young?
Are you denying that they were under attack?
It's fascinating to watch history get rewritten in real time.
You guys are going to get a lot of people killed. Is there anyone on the left who can stop this?
We aren't talking about "they". We are talking about James Alex Fields. He was clearly NOT under attack.
You keep coddling and defending this filthy terrorist.
And you are still blaming the victim. You are still saying that the poor girl had it coming.
exthrower wrote:
And lets not pretend that the White Nationalists are any more violent or despicable or more to blame for this debacle than Antifa and BLM.....The blame lies equally with ALL....
No need to pretend. In this case, the only one who committed murder was a white nationalist.
The blame is far from equal. Only one side committed murder.
Now the National Review has called for the removal of confederate statues.
This is not a surprise, as National Review is a bastion of the conservative establishment. But it does exemplify the growing chasm between traditional conservatives and the alt-right.
Both sides are part of the Trump coalition. That coalition is crumbling right along with those statues.
Trump needs to pick a side and he needs to do it fast. There is still time for him to become a traditional Republican president. He would need to fire Bannon, Miller, and Gorka.
And he would need to stop being Trump.
Fat hurts wrote:
Now the National Review has called for the removal of confederate statues.
This is not a surprise, as National Review is a bastion of the conservative establishment. But it does exemplify the growing chasm between traditional conservatives and the alt-right.
Both sides are part of the Trump coalition. That coalition is crumbling right along with those statues.
Trump needs to pick a side and he needs to do it fast. There is still time for him to become a traditional Republican president. He would need to fire Bannon, Miller, and Gorka.
And he would need to stop being Trump.
the rump is really busting up the Republican Party. But I suspect very few GOP politicians will advocate tearing down monuments to the great treason.
exthrower wrote:
^ Republican Snowflake and Cuck
It will be interesting. Some R's outside the South might get away with it. But I'm sure they would all prefer to not talk about monuments at all.eric a blair wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:Now the National Review has called for the removal of confederate statues.
This is not a surprise, as National Review is a bastion of the conservative establishment. But it does exemplify the growing chasm between traditional conservatives and the alt-right.
Both sides are part of the Trump coalition. That coalition is crumbling right along with those statues.
Trump needs to pick a side and he needs to do it fast. There is still time for him to become a traditional Republican president. He would need to fire Bannon, Miller, and Gorka.
And he would need to stop being Trump.
the rump is really busting up the Republican Party. But I suspect very few GOP politicians will advocate tearing down monuments to the great treason.
The monument debate itself won't be the thing to drive this wedge. The alt-right will push Republicans away from each other. You either sympathize with white nationalists or you join the cuck wing of the party.
Fat hurts wrote:
Now the National Review has called for the removal of confederate statues.
...
And doing that will not change a thing for the better. Will the left wing culture purge stop there? Friggin idiots. In fact, anyone who backs off support for free speech or in any way grants legitimacy to these Antifa people is helping create more violence and oppression.
"Appeasement of evil only serves to produce more."
-- Ronaldus Magnus
I have said many times this won't end well. Well, here we are guys. The killing has begun. I'll let you know if I see any rays of light, but right now it's all darkness. I am looking for a prominent Democrat to stand up and say to his fascist PC base "Stop the violence. This is tearing us apart." .
I am not holding my breath.
Fat hurts wrote:
exthrower wrote:And lets not pretend that the White Nationalists are any more violent or despicable or more to blame for this debacle than Antifa and BLM.....The blame lies equally with ALL....
No need to pretend. In this case, the only one who committed murder was a white nationalist.
The blame is far from equal. Only one side committed murder.
And attempted murder on 20 plus other innocent people.
Because the white nationalist rally went so well last weekend, they are scheduling 9 more this coming weekend:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/us/white-nationalists-protests-tally-trnd/index.html
foo wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:No need to pretend. In this case, the only one who committed murder was a white nationalist.
The blame is far from equal. Only one side committed murder.
And attempted murder on 20 plus other innocent people.
I know the hypocrisy argument doesn't work on leftists, but I just can't help myself.
Imagine this:
I show up at a peaceful lawful Black Lives Matter rally wearing a helmet, a face mask, and body armor while carrying pepper spray and bat. I openly declare my intention to silence the BLM people and that I want to beat them up. I fight with them proving that I was not lying. After the rally is shut down by police because of the violence I caused, I get killed by a black BLM member who drives his car through my crowd.
How would that story be reported? What would be said about me? Would I be portrayed as a sympathetic hero? Would the injured be seen as victims?
foo wrote:
Because the white nationalist rally went so well last weekend, they are scheduling 9 more this coming weekend:
... and they have every right to do so. Don't you agree?
DiscoGary wrote:
I have said many times this won't end well. Well, here we are guys. The killing has begun. I'll let you know if I see any rays of light, but right now it's all darkness. I am looking for a prominent Democrat to stand up and say to his fascist PC base "Stop the violence. This is tearing us apart." .
I am not holding my breath.
For many, many years, it has been the stated goal of White Nationalists to start a race war in the US. Sounds like you've been enjoying their literature.
As I've stated before, liberals are the ones who invented non-violent social change. We believe in non-violence and we cling to it fervently. If you are looking for Democrats to stand up and say "Stop the violence" you don't have to look very far.
Gary, if you are a peace-loving person then you have picked the wrong side.
DiscoGary wrote:
foo wrote:Because the white nationalist rally went so well last weekend, they are scheduling 9 more this coming weekend:
... and they have every right to do so. Don't you agree?
Given they have all the required permits, yes they certainly do.
But, they do not have the right to attack and kill those who are legally counter-protesting.
DiscoGary wrote:
foo wrote:Because the white nationalist rally went so well last weekend, they are scheduling 9 more this coming weekend:
... and they have every right to do so. Don't you agree?
And meanwhile, discogray is working to disparage all BLM events. Don't we all agree?
DiscoGary wrote:
foo wrote:And attempted murder on 20 plus other innocent people.
I know the hypocrisy argument doesn't work on leftists, but I just can't help myself.
Imagine this:
I show up at a peaceful lawful Black Lives Matter rally wearing a helmet, a face mask, and body armor while carrying pepper spray and bat. I openly declare my intention to silence the BLM people and that I want to beat them up. I fight with them proving that I was not lying. After the rally is shut down by police because of the violence I caused, I get killed by a black BLM member who drives his car through my crowd.
How would that story be reported? What would be said about me? Would I be portrayed as a sympathetic hero? Would the injured be seen as victims?
yeah, I show up to a peaceful rally dressed like this - amazing but I get into a fight! Who would have predicted it? Certainly not me!
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2017/08/RTS1BJPN/lead_960.jpg?1502743974Fat hurts wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:I have said many times this won't end well. Well, here we are guys. The killing has begun. I'll let you know if I see any rays of light, but right now it's all darkness. I am looking for a prominent Democrat to stand up and say to his fascist PC base "Stop the violence. This is tearing us apart." .
I am not holding my breath.
For many, many years, it has been the stated goal of White Nationalists to start a race war in the US. Sounds like you've been enjoying their literature.
As I've stated before, liberals are the ones who invented non-violent social change. We believe in non-violence and we cling to it fervently. If you are looking for Democrats to stand up and say "Stop the violence" you don't have to look very far.
Gary, if you are a peace-loving person then you have picked the wrong side.
All the violence is coming from the left. The right is not going to left wing rallies and beating up people in an attempt to silence free speech. Your side is not peaceful. I stand for anyone's right to free speech no matter what they say. It is the law of the land and the only way a free civil society can exist.
You have picked the side of lawlessness, violence, and oppression.
eric a blair wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:I know the hypocrisy argument doesn't work on leftists, but I just can't help myself.
Imagine this:
I show up at a peaceful lawful Black Lives Matter rally wearing a helmet, a face mask, and body armor while carrying pepper spray and bat. I openly declare my intention to silence the BLM people and that I want to beat them up. I fight with them proving that I was not lying. After the rally is shut down by police because of the violence I caused, I get killed by a black BLM member who drives his car through my crowd.
How would that story be reported? What would be said about me? Would I be portrayed as a sympathetic hero? Would the injured be seen as victims?
yeah, I show up to a peaceful rally dressed like this - amazing but I get into a fight! Who would have predicted it? Certainly not me!
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2017/08/RTS1BJPN/lead_960.jpg?1502743974
They had every right to show up like that and there wouldn't have been a fight if people hadn't shown up to silence them.
Why is this so hard for you leftists to understand?
Long ago I studied how genocides occur and the process goes something like this:
1. A group is demonized, but no one takes it seriously.
2. The demonization keeps growing and hatred for the target group grows with it.
3. The target group starts getting blamed for all the problems in society. The target group is distrusted.
4. The target group can not fix the problems because they are not causing them, so the demonization and hatred continues to grow.
... now things get really bad ...
5. The target group is so hated that no one will defend them for fear of being cast into the same "basket" as the targets.
6. The police stop defending them. Violence against them is tacitly approved.
7. Laws are written explicitly putting them at a disadvantage.
8. People are getting SO tired of having to tolerate the target group. Why do we have to live with this? They are SO evil! For God's sake why can't we solve this problem once and for all!?
... and then ...
9. A trigger event occurs and the people finally decide that it is time to solve societies problem. It is time to execute the final solution and get rid of the target group.
10.. All Hell breaks loose.
We have been at stage 8 for over a year now. The question is, did 9 just occur? Many on the left are telling me it has.
DiscoGary wrote:
eric a blair wrote:yeah, I show up to a peaceful rally dressed like this - amazing but I get into a fight! Who would have predicted it? Certainly not me!
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2017/08/RTS1BJPN/lead_960.jpg?1502743974They had every right to show up like that and there wouldn't have been a fight if people hadn't shown up to silence them.
Why is this so hard for you leftists to understand?
funny, I haven't seen any pictures of the white supremacists in the khakis and white shirts fighting. They weren't looking for a fight and they didn't get it. As far as I know.
The guys who came with shields and sticks came to fight and they fought. That's why they went. You know that.
