Putin of course does not need tactical nukes to defeat Ukraine.
They are freezing already.
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CarmineAlwaysLies wrote:
Defcon 3 wrote:
What's with the name calling little immature brat! Calling me a "scumbag" you immature keyboard warrior punk! I haven't address anyone here disrespectfully or called anyone names. I'm merely expressing my opinion & concerns, and providing news reports & expert opinions who have the same concerns. Isn't that what this thread is for?
What cracks me up is you wouldn't be calling me names to my face. I've discuss this Russo-Ukrainian war many times with friends & acquaintances at my gym & some may disagree with me but none call me names to my face. You're just an immature punk who thinks he's an internet tough guy. Lol
And yes, Russia has more advanced nuclear weapon technology - go research it punk & do a school report on it. And if Putin uses tactical nukes you think "it will be the end of Russia as we know it?" Lol It would also be the end of the U.S. & Europe as we know it. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD). Go look it up & do another school report. That's why NATO wouldn't respond with strategic nuclear weapons or any nukes for they fact if Putin uses low-yield tactical nukes or even some EMP weapons in Ukraine further destroying the Ukrainian infrastructure. Biden doesn't want to go down in history as the President that started WW3 with Russia & consequently armageddon. The U.S. & NATO is scared sh*tless of the Russian Nuclear Arsenal.
I would happily call you names to your face, because you must be an absolute p*ssy to live your live in fear of Russia and WW3.
Putin isn't going to use a tactical nuke in Ukraine, because he knows the NATO would respond by using more than 2% of their capability to crush the Russia. Like, picture the Kremlin as it a smoldering crater with Putin's putrid corpse rotting at the bottom. Putin doesn't want go down as the loser that started WW3 any more than Biden does; mostly because Putin craves power and being the leader of Russia post-nuclear apocalypse means there's nobody to stroke his delicate ego.
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the US would not bomb Moscow if Putin used a tactical nuke in Ukraine.
NATO bombing moscow would end all civilization on the planet earth.
If RU sets off a tactical nuke we might sink some RU ships or something like that after signaling our limited intentions. But we would not send missiles into Moscow. Because of mutually assured destruction. When our missiles cross the border into RU, an RU submarine 1000 miles from DC would melt the WH in around 10 minutes.
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Defcon 3 wrote:
Colin Bombo Harris wrote:
Nope. More strawman garbage, like Carmine's above. Everyone knows the only way Ukraine can defend itself from the Russian invasion is with NATO supplies. America and its allies are fully aware and fully ready to help Ukraine defend itself against Russia. Everyone knows that. You have not made any point at all. None.
Which does not detract at all from the enormous sacrifices that Ukrainians are making to defend their country from Russian invasion and occupation. Ukrainians are willing to die by the thousands to defend their country from scumbags like yourself. Ukrainians don't want you people in their country, and they have not waivered from that position since day one.
Seem to? Really? You think?
No they don't. Not even close.
Yes, he could do that. It will be the end of Russia as we know it, but he could do that. I guess we will all have to wait and see how insane and suicidal Russia is.
My guess is that Russia is far less likely to attack NATO now than they were a year ago, having more experience with the pathetic nature of the Russian military. The Russian military is a total failure, incapable of even conquering a weak neighbor that doesn't even have access to the most lethal NATO weapons. Attacking an actual NATO country or countries seems FAR beyond the capabilities of Russia now (or ever).
What's with the name calling little immature brat! Calling me a "scumbag" you immature keyboard warrior punk! I haven't address anyone here disrespectfully or called anyone names. I'm merely expressing my opinion & concerns, and providing news reports & expert opinions who have the same concerns. Isn't that what this thread is for?
What cracks me up is you wouldn't be calling me names to my face. I've discuss this Russo-Ukrainian war many times with friends & acquaintances at my gym & some may disagree with me but none call me names to my face. You're just an immature punk who thinks he's an internet tough guy. Lol
And yes, Russia has more advanced nuclear weapon technology - go research it punk & do a school report on it. And if Putin uses tactical nukes you think "it will be the end of Russia as we know it?" Lol It would also be the end of the U.S. & Europe as we know it. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction (MAD). Go look it up & do another school report. That's why NATO wouldn't respond with strategic nuclear weapons or any nukes for they fact if Putin uses low-yield tactical nukes or even some EMP weapons in Ukraine further destroying the Ukrainian infrastructure. Biden doesn't want to go down in history as the President that started WW3 with Russia & consequently armageddon. The U.S. & NATO is scared sh*tless of the Russian Nuclear Arsenal.
Calm down, Rasputin. There's no need to get your balls in an uproar.
Russia does not have more advanced nuclear weapon technology. Go research it. They don't have more advanced anything.
If Russia attacks NATO, it will be the end of Russia as we know it. That is what I said and that is a fact.
NO ONE is scared of Russia, except civilians in small countries near the Russian border.
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The hourly arguing regarding winning isn't honest. President Z has flat out lied and/or minimized Ukrainian military combat deaths. If Ukrainian forces gain 5K to 15K of real estate, posters on here strut. If Ukrainian forces fail to gain territory on a given day or week, posters then complain about Russian forces behaving too aggressively. The pro-Ukrainians are fanatics. There is no way Ukraine is capable of winning War of Attrition. Russia can lose 125,000 men per year longer than Ukraine can tolerate same loss. If President Z waits 10 more months to begin negotiations, what will be different? I have been asking for peace and negotiations for 12 or 13 months. President Z could have avoided all violence and bloodshed over a year ago if President Z would have withdrawn Ukraine's NATO application.
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Colin Bombo Harris wrote:
what part of MUTUALLY assured destruction do people not understand?
We don't 'win' a nuclear war if we have better nuke technology than our opponent. We still lose the war. Everyone loses the war.
Nukes are deterrents. They stop us from attacking them, and them from attacking us. That is their use.
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Cold War Warrior 19 wrote:
. President Z could have avoided all violence and bloodshed over a year ago if President Z would have withdrawn Ukraine's NATO application.
FFS you are a naive small soul
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Cold War Warrior 19 wrote:
The hourly arguing regarding winning isn't honest. President Z has flat out lied and/or minimized Ukrainian military combat deaths. If Ukrainian forces gain 5K to 15K of real estate, posters on here strut. If Ukrainian forces fail to gain territory on a given day or week, posters then complain about Russian forces behaving too aggressively. The pro-Ukrainians are fanatics. There is no way Ukraine is capable of winning War of Attrition. Russia can lose 125,000 men per year longer than Ukraine can tolerate same loss. If President Z waits 10 more months to begin negotiations, what will be different? I have been asking for peace and negotiations for 12 or 13 months. President Z could have avoided all violence and bloodshed over a year ago if President Z would have withdrawn Ukraine's NATO application.
How many of the 70,000+ Russians KILLED in action has Putin acknowledged? Like 700? Has he admitted that the Moskva is now a submarine yet? Or does TASS still claim it's sailing the Black Sea? Kherson is Russia forever, right?
How much territory has Russia gained since March? Oh, it's lost territory in the last 8+ months? Man, if losing territory is winning, Russia is well on its way to a gold medal!
Ukraine is already winning a war of attrition. Russia has lost more than 1,500 tanks in 10 months. They only had like 3500 functioning tanks when the war started. In another 10 months the Russian army is going to be fighting with bows and arrows.
Tsar Putin could have avoided all violence and bloodshed over 8 years ago if he hadn't been an imperialist a**hole. But, he is. Now tens of thousands of Russians are dead. Forever. Tens of thousands more are permanently wounded. Hundreds of thousands have left Russia forever.
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carmine9 wrote:
Putin of course does not need tactical nukes to defeat Ukraine.
They are freezing already.
Nope, those are Russian troops freezing to death. Sorry carmine, but your buddy Putin forgot that you have to train and equip troops if you want them to be more than fertilizer.
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agip wrote:
Colin Bombo Harris wrote:
what part of MUTUALLY assured destruction do people not understand?
We don't 'win' a nuclear war if we have better nuke technology than our opponent. We still lose the war. Everyone loses the war.
Nukes are deterrents. They stop us from attacking them, and them from attacking us. That is their use.
First of all, I never mentioned it. All I said is that if Russia attacks a NATO country, it will be the end of Russia as we know it. That is a fact.
To the extent you think that invokes "mutually assured destruction," (1) it doesn't and (2) even if it did, many people who are educated on such matters do not believe things are necessarily mutual or assured (or even completely "destructed"). I know "mutually assured destruction" is the idea we were all taught in the US and it's the buzzwords everyone uses, but it's more complicated than that. That doesn't mean Russia's nuclear weapons are not a deterrent to some degree (NATO's absolutely are).
Anyway, despite what the Putin lovers here say, that decision and all its outcomes are solely in Russia's hands. Again, we shall see just how suicidal they are feeling these days.
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If Ukraine wants to be part of NATO it’s none of Russia’s business. Ukraine can do whatever the f they want with their own country.
Russia are finding out the hard way the USSR is no more. They have the biggest country in the world. Why do they give a f what their tiny neighbors do. Russia should focus on Russia.
Anyway Russia is screwed for decades now. Pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain.
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Colin Bombo Harris wrote:
agip wrote:
what part of MUTUALLY assured destruction do people not understand?
We don't 'win' a nuclear war if we have better nuke technology than our opponent. We still lose the war. Everyone loses the war.
Nukes are deterrents. They stop us from attacking them, and them from attacking us. That is their use.
First of all, I never mentioned it. All I said is that if Russia attacks a NATO country, it will be the end of Russia as we know it. That is a fact.
To the extent you think that invokes "mutually assured destruction," (1) it doesn't and (2) even if it did, many people who are educated on such matters do not believe things are necessarily mutual or assured (or even completely "destructed"). I know "mutually assured destruction" is the idea we were all taught in the US and it's the buzzwords everyone uses, but it's more complicated than that. That doesn't mean Russia's nuclear weapons are not a deterrent to some degree (NATO's absolutely are).
Anyway, despite what the Putin lovers here say, that decision and all its outcomes are solely in Russia's hands. Again, we shall see just how suicidal they are feeling these days.
you also said no one is scared of russia, which is obviously false and suggests MAD is not real.
NATO exists because of fear of russia. Nations are rushing to join nato because of fear of russia. Any country bordering russia is scared of russia.
We are scared of russia and we need to be scared of russia, because they have nukes on ICBMS and in submarines just off our coasts.
MAD works because of fear. That's why Star Wars missile defense was destabilizing. Because it threatened to end MAD and make the US impervious to RU missiles.
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Since Ukraine's fall offensive, Russian propaganda has gone off the rails (even for Russian propaganda). At the outset of the war, there was a lot of stuff about Donbass, neo-Nazis and NATO. People who opposed arming Ukraine claimed that RU was a pragmatic country under Putin and that Putin had been very clear in his position on NATO and Ukraine. People who supported Ukraine claimed that Putin was really acting as an imperial colonizer and was poisoned by Machiavellian views of philosophers like Dugin who saw Russia as being a great world empire that had a duty to lead the world out from a moral decay and decline of the Western powers that dominated the post-Soviet days. Now, Russia's propaganda is going head on into this narrative in a way that is so bizarre that is it simultaneously frightening and hilarious.
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Precious Roy wrote:
Since Ukraine's fall offensive, Russian propaganda has gone off the rails (even for Russian propaganda). At the outset of the war, there was a lot of stuff about Donbass, neo-Nazis and NATO. People who opposed arming Ukraine claimed that RU was a pragmatic country under Putin and that Putin had been very clear in his position on NATO and Ukraine. People who supported Ukraine claimed that Putin was really acting as an imperial colonizer and was poisoned by Machiavellian views of philosophers like Dugin who saw Russia as being a great world empire that had a duty to lead the world out from a moral decay and decline of the Western powers that dominated the post-Soviet days. Now, Russia's propaganda is going head on into this narrative in a way that is so bizarre that is it simultaneously frightening and hilarious.
I wondered what Ukraine was doing at all those CIA-funded biolabs that Carmine keeps babbling about. Clearly, they were cultivating superbabies that are controlled by Deepstate smartphones!
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Turtleb wrote:
Cold War Warrior 19 wrote:
You and the rest of the 1/2 dozen pro-Ukrainian fanatics on this thread are not interested in peace, you are seeking a Ukraine victory. If you sought peace, you would not argue hourly regarding which side is winning.
The hourly arguing about who is winning is perfectly rational.
The US is not particularly loyal, and Biden has already proven himself to be less so than other presidents (unless you are a black lesbian athlete who kneels for the anthem and so must have voted for him). As soon as it is clear Ukraine has lost the US will declare victory--see how many Russians were killed!--and stop writing checks.
What needs to be understood is that NATO (basically the US) has given all the military equipment it can without including stuff that will lead the way to WWIII--like long range missiles. Biden might do it anyway, but maybe he will look past his corn pop delusions and not do it.
The Soviet Union was preparing for a war in Europe with 10's of millions on each side that would go on for years. Russia apparently inherited those artillery shells. They probably have enough to level every building in Ukraine twice over. And the USSR always 'specialized' in missiles. Looks like, at the moment, Russia can outproduce all of NATO combined, despite any sanctions.
Ukraine's best option is to strike a deal now.
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I can tell you now that this take from Russian state TV on Morocco's victory over Portugal is the most deranged thing you will have seen for a long time
Obviously Francis Scarr does not visit LetsRun.
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Precious Roy wrote:
Since Ukraine's fall offensive, Russian propaganda has gone off the rails (even for Russian propaganda). At the outset of the war, there was a lot of stuff about Donbass, neo-Nazis and NATO. People who opposed arming Ukraine claimed that RU was a pragmatic country under Putin and that Putin had been very clear in his position on NATO and Ukraine. People who supported Ukraine claimed that Putin was really acting as an imperial colonizer and was poisoned by Machiavellian views of philosophers like Dugin who saw Russia as being a great world empire that had a duty to lead the world out from a moral decay and decline of the Western powers that dominated the post-Soviet days. Now, Russia's propaganda is going head on into this narrative in a way that is so bizarre that is it simultaneously frightening and hilarious.
frightening, hilarious and nearly identical to Fox News.
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Precious Roy wrote:
Since Ukraine's fall offensive, Russian propaganda has gone off the rails (even for Russian propaganda). At the outset of the war, there was a lot of stuff about Donbass, neo-Nazis and NATO. People who opposed arming Ukraine claimed that RU was a pragmatic country under Putin and that Putin had been very clear in his position on NATO and Ukraine. People who supported Ukraine claimed that Putin was really acting as an imperial colonizer and was poisoned by Machiavellian views of philosophers like Dugin who saw Russia as being a great world empire that had a duty to lead the world out from a moral decay and decline of the Western powers that dominated the post-Soviet days. Now, Russia's propaganda is going head on into this narrative in a way that is so bizarre that is it simultaneously frightening and hilarious.
I think some of those whackos post here!
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Colin Bombo Harris wrote:
Precious Roy wrote:
Since Ukraine's fall offensive, Russian propaganda has gone off the rails (even for Russian propaganda). At the outset of the war, there was a lot of stuff about Donbass, neo-Nazis and NATO. People who opposed arming Ukraine claimed that RU was a pragmatic country under Putin and that Putin had been very clear in his position on NATO and Ukraine. People who supported Ukraine claimed that Putin was really acting as an imperial colonizer and was poisoned by Machiavellian views of philosophers like Dugin who saw Russia as being a great world empire that had a duty to lead the world out from a moral decay and decline of the Western powers that dominated the post-Soviet days. Now, Russia's propaganda is going head on into this narrative in a way that is so bizarre that is it simultaneously frightening and hilarious.
I think some of those whackos post here!
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Vindman not the sharpest knife
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carmine9 wrote:
Colin Bombo Harris wrote:
I think some of those whackos post here!
Ukraine will rebuild. It's a permanently painful situation for the families of the 70,000+ dead Russians.
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