Runningart2004 wrote:
A larger concern for the future.....
How does a man without any political experience, obvious questionable business practices, and grossly negative intangibles get elected in the first place?
How do we prevent that from happening again ? Likewise, as socialism becomes more mainstream how do we prevent a hardcore socialist from becoming president?
The middle is evaporating .
Alan
Having a more educated population would be my first thought.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Pookie Black wrote:
What’s sad is you can show these idiot Trump kum drinkers VERIFIABLE facts and they will still believe lies from Rush Limbaugh and Fox News.
Wrong. Michael Forest Reinoehl was Antifa and he killed a man.
https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/michael-reinoehls-sister-relieved-feds-killed-him/
Please re-read my post and, next time, think before posting.
I was responding to the use of the term "murderous antifa"; the incident you bring up cannot be called a murder. The guy who did it claimed it was self-defense, as Trollminator has pointed out. Also, that Portland killing occurred after the article that I was discussing (0 antifa murders in the last 25 years) was published, which is specifically why I qualified my statement with the phrase "as of two months ago". So no, I was not wrong.
And let's not lose sight of the forest for the trees. The greatest terror threat to the United States is not BLM or antifa, or whatever left wing boogeyman FOX wants to conjure up get Trumpers all worked up. It is right wing, white supremacist groups just like the Proud Boys.
Not only won't Trump acknowledge this threat or actually do anything about this threat, he actually encourages these criminal, violent groups. And that's what the Republican Party has devolved into today; in bed with the greatest terror threat to the United States. Are you OK with that?
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/04/white-supremacists-terror-threat-dhs-409236https://www.adl.org/blog/far-right-extremists-killed-at-least-38-in-us-in-2019-white-supremacists-arrested-afterRunningart2004 wrote:
A larger concern for the future.....
How does a man without any political experience, obvious questionable business practices, and grossly negative intangibles get elected in the first place?
How do we prevent that from happening again ? Likewise, as socialism becomes more mainstream how do we prevent a hardcore socialist from becoming president?
The middle is evaporating .
Alan
Interesting question. Although there would be millions of people asking, "How do we get a man like Trump elected again?"
Certainly Trump was an effective conman but also he was the type of conman saying the kind of things to which we were vulnerable.
Extreme thinking occurs on both sides of the isle. When it that occurs on one side the other side often reacts with extreme thinking and behavior. It's a bad spiral.
Dumping Citizen's United and reducing big money from campaigns is a start. Being smarter and being able to assess news and facts from internet garbage would be critical.
Good question, I don't the answer.
Smorbun wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
"Brokeback Biden"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjMvXR-VgAA70I2?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjMwVHUXgAYjyPP?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjMvgr9VoAAHmCM?format=jpg&name=smallSo, you are homophobic too? Well, of course you are. Moron.
I thought you Liberals were all okay with identifying as whoever you wanted to be. If you are an older man who wanted to fake-identify as a lady, then it is okay for you to use the same bathrooms as little girls. That is what our Lesbian mayor here in Houston wanted. You identify however you wanted. Why berate Rigged if he identifies as a homophobe (which I know he doesn't)? Isn't that up to him? Oh ... you can only identify with politically correct identities? Is that how you roll?
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
A larger concern for the future.....
How does a man without any political experience, obvious questionable business practices, and grossly negative intangibles get elected in the first place?
How do we prevent that from happening again ? Likewise, as socialism becomes more mainstream how do we prevent a hardcore socialist from becoming president?
The middle is evaporating .
Alan
Interesting question. Although there would be millions of people asking, "How do we get a man like Trump elected again?"
Certainly Trump was an effective conman but also he was the type of conman saying the kind of things to which we were vulnerable.
Extreme thinking occurs on both sides of the isle. When it that occurs on one side the other side often reacts with extreme thinking and behavior. It's a bad spiral.
Dumping Citizen's United and reducing big money from campaigns is a start. Being smarter and being able to assess news and facts from internet garbage would be critical.
Good question, I don't the answer.
I like that you said that extreme thinking occurs on both sides of the aisle. Though most of the Libs here would never agree with that. They think that extreme thinking only occurs with conservatives. Biden may not be extreme but I think Kamala is. And if she was to assume power that extremism would come out in spades.
Flagpole wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
And if my sisters didn't have 6 kids and 5 baby daddies they wouldn't be whores....what's your point?
To be clear, unless your sisters were paid to have those children, they are just sluts, not whores. Words matter.
Hold on.
Surrogates are often paid to have someone's baby. They aren't whores.
Without a monetary exchange none of them are whores.
Having babies from different men doesn't make a women a slut. At best that's a year between having sex with different men. Slut shaming is misogynistic.
And Alan could have 5 sisters who each have a husband and one of them had two kids.
Then his sisters would have 6 kids and 5 baby daddies.
The photoshopped image of Biden sniffing Chris Wallace's hair is actually pretty funny.
Day 2 of the great post-Trump stock market rally.
Market is up another percent in the premarket, after a similar rally yesterday, after Trump blew himself up in the debate.
Markets really, really would prefer Joe Biden's calm and steady hand.
Which is counter to what many 'conservatives' would like to think.
Remember - Bush1, Bush2 and Trump were not great for stocks.
Clinton and Obama were much better for stocks.
Although to be fair another factor at play right now is that congress is coming up with another stimulus plan.
Nate's model is up another tick to 79%.
He's said that if the election were today, the model would be at 91%.
Because much can happen in 32 days, the model leaves some uncertainty.
Runningart2004 wrote:
Likewise, as socialism becomes more mainstream how do we prevent a hardcore socialist from becoming president?
Obviously a corrupt leader under any system is bad.
Trump is not really a Republican. He's a person who looks out for himself and found it easier to get Republicans to vote for him with his personality.
If we had a socialist system, Trump would be as dangerous as leader then.
The shocking part of this is that it broke down at so many levels.
First, Trump somehow wins the Republican nomination. Mostly because the party was fractured and they had no real Republican to rally around.
Then he wins the presidency even while getting millions of fewer votes than his main opponent.
We can go to a popular vote or an open primary system that combines all parties and gives exactly two choices in the general election. Ensuring the winner gets over 50% of the votes.
The real breakdown was that his party allowed him to break ethics rules and even laws without any negative ramifications.
This really has to do with the fact that Republicans can win the majority of senate seats that represent a minority of the country population wise.
We'd need to add states or maybe even combine some states to get a better distribution of the people to senator ratio.
Trump and the Republicans exploited every flaw in the Constitution to consolidate their power.
The Founding Fathers were people of the time, not gods.
agip wrote:
Day 2 of the great post-Trump stock market rally.
Market is up another percent in the premarket, after a similar rally yesterday, after Trump blew himself up in the debate.
Markets really, really would prefer Joe Biden's calm and steady hand.
Which is counter to what many 'conservatives' would like to think.
Remember - Bush1, Bush2 and Trump were not great for stocks.
Clinton and Obama were much better for stocks.
Although to be fair another factor at play right now is that congress is coming up with another stimulus plan.
The market is riding on optimism that Biden will finally get COVID under control and accelerate recovery. As far as returns, the market has every reason to think Biden will get us back on the Obama track, which was one of the, if not the longest uninterrupted equities rally. Trump thought if he'd just stay quiet the country would never notice tens of thousands dying from the pandemic. He has been proving over and over to be a terrible thinker and deal- and decision maker. He wasn't willing to trade a couple more weeks of stock market gains for a faster recovery down the road. But hey, the b-school accountant Sally thinks trump is commandeering "like a pro." LOLz
Sally Vix wrote:
I thought you Liberals were all okay with identifying as whoever you wanted to be.
Sure.
Sally Vix wrote:
If you are an older man who wanted to fake-identify as a lady, then it is okay for you to use the same bathrooms as little girls.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? Have you never met a transgendered person? Have you never taken five seconds to understand the anguish they've gone through in trying to fit into society?
Sally Vix wrote:
Why berate Rigged if he identifies as a homophobe (which I know he doesn't)? Isn't that up to him? Oh ... you can only identify with politically correct identities? Is that how you roll?
Be whatever you want to be. But know that most people have the mental capacity to understand that gender identity is something that's built into the brain, whereas prejudice (homophobia, racism, etc) is a function of idiocy and ignorance and fewer and fewer people and organizations will want to freely associate with persons such as that (as is their right).
Sally Vix wrote:
I like that you said that extreme thinking occurs on both sides of the aisle. Though most of the Libs here would never agree with that. They think that extreme thinking only occurs with conservatives.
Who? People that have never heard of anarcho-communism?
Sally Vix wrote:
Biden may not be extreme but I think Kamala is. And if she was to assume power that extremism would come out in spades.
Kamala Harris, the ex-prosecutor who was supposedly too harsh on drug offenders to please the left wing of the Democratic Party? What policies does Harris support that have you concerned?
Was life miserable in the Obama era, because that is what Biden and Harris was to return the United States to. Lower unemployment, lower deficits, securing the long term welfare of the environment. They just want to Make America Great Again. What's wrong with that?
agip wrote:
Nate's model is up another tick to 79%.
He's said that if the election were today, the model would be at 91%.
Because much can happen in 32 days, the model leaves some uncertainty.
and now it's up to 80%. With FL, OH, AZ moving in Joe's direction.
First the Iron Range mayors endorse Trump and now this. Minnesota is going red.
https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/opinion/editorials/6681687-Endorsement-Lewis-for-U.S.-Senate
agip wrote:
agip wrote:
Nate's model is up another tick to 79%.
He's said that if the election were today, the model would be at 91%.
Because much can happen in 32 days, the model leaves some uncertainty.
and now it's up to 80%. With FL, OH, AZ moving in Joe's direction.
Prepare to be bigly disappointed. Nate ? Silver will be hilariously wrong AGAIN.
Unhinged liberal. Some business leaders should face a firing squad, former Twitter CEO Dick Costolo suggested.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
First the Iron Range mayors endorse Trump and now this. Minnesota is going red.
https://www.duluthnewstribune.com/opinion/editorials/6681687-Endorsement-Lewis-for-U.S.-Senate
Oof, oh dear, do you really think that senate race is competitive?
right wing media abandoning Trump