I know Gary's first instinct is to defend any right winger and call the right winger the real victim - that's what white trump people do every day. Most of them so want to think that they are the real victims...it's pathetic.
Anyway, here. Car accelerating toward pack of people. Please.
DiscoGary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:You saw what you wanted to see.
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And as far as seeing what we want to see, can you see that the pro-statue protesters had a legal right to be there, and that their rights were being violently violated by leftists?
The biggest problem we have in this country is that those on the left think that their moral outrage grants them the right to deprive others of their rights. It doesn't. Your side needs to stop doing that.
The proper response to this disaster is to point the finger at the Antifa people and demand that they obey the laws. That's the source of the problem.
Anybody who denied someone of their rights should be duly charged.
There is no excuse for murder and terrorism. You are saying that terrorism is the fault of the victims. Your view is as disgusting as any Nazi.
eric a blair wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:And as far as seeing what we want to see, can you see that the pro-statue protesters had a legal right to be there, and that their rights were being violently violated by leftists?
The biggest problem we have in this country is that those on the left think that their moral outrage grants them the right to deprive others of their rights. It doesn't. Your side needs to stop doing that.
The proper response to this disaster is to point the finger at the Antifa people and demand that they obey the laws. That's the source of the problem.
gary both sides came to fight. They fought. That does not make both sides equally responsible. The Nazis are antithetical to America. They want to destroy America. Those opposing the Nazis are fighting to preserve the American idea.
Both came to fight. Both not equal.
One side came to legally protest knowing that the other side was going to show up and try to beat them into silence. Those Antifa people who have decided that they have the right to deprive others of their rights, are directly undermining free speech, the rule of law, and idea that we tolerate bad ideas. The Antifa guys embody anti-American fascism. Believe it or not, the fact that our society can tolerate people carrying Nazi flags in public without losing sight of our rights or losing our minds used to be something Americans were PROUD of!
To be an American means we HAVE to support the right of Nazis to march! If we shut up the Nazis, then soon they'll shut me up, then the next group, and ultimately you. Eventually everyone lives in fear. I would say we are already there.
Fat hurts wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:And as far as seeing what we want to see, can you see that the pro-statue protesters had a legal right to be there, and that their rights were being violently violated by leftists?
The biggest problem we have in this country is that those on the left think that their moral outrage grants them the right to deprive others of their rights. It doesn't. Your side needs to stop doing that.
The proper response to this disaster is to point the finger at the Antifa people and demand that they obey the laws. That's the source of the problem.
Anybody who denied someone of their rights should be duly charged.
There is no excuse for murder and terrorism. You are saying that terrorism is the fault of the victims. Your view is as disgusting as any Nazi.
I don't know that whole story yet, and neither do you. I'm willing to wait, and you are not. That's because I have experience with these Antifa types and you don't. Let's see what really happened before we rip the country apart. Well, too late for that.
Fat hurts wrote:
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Anybody who denied someone of their rights should be duly charged.
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And that's the problem right there. Leftists beat up people and pay no price for it. The cops don't help. Their victims get called racists and there are no consequences.
We didn't have all this violence under Obama because the conservative protesters were peaceful. Let's see what happens if the left stops all their violence.
DiscoGary wrote:
I don't know that whole story yet, and neither do you. I'm willing to wait, and you are not. That's because I have experience with these Antifa types and you don't. Let's see what really happened before we rip the country apart. Well, too late for that.
I do not agree with you on pretty much anything.
But I do appreciate your posts here.
DiscoGary wrote:
XY wrote:Not terrorism, but the guy has a hateful, racists trail and just happened showed up to the rally, and just happened to run over counter protesters. Yes, many of the counter protesters were violent also. It's now the mood of the country. As a leader your POTUS isn't helping much is he?
Actually, it isn't the mood of the country. You don's see these white supremacists going to Democrat protests trying to beat them into silence. All the violence occurs where right wing people have rallys. Let's try this. How about you guys on the left ask your fascist arm to stop rioting, beating people, and burning things? Let's see what happens after that.
OK...historically speaking.. if there was no resistance to the White Supremacists you would have people hanging from trees or being put in ovens.
XY wrote:
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OK...historically speaking.. if there was no resistance to the White Supremacists you would have people hanging from trees or being put in ovens.
Straw man. There's loads of resistance to white supremacists, and it comes from the very people you are lumping in with them. These guys have close to no support from anywhere, but they still have rights. You are forcing me to fight you, when we should be on the same side. But I will never join those who use violence to silence others. No one else should either.
XY wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:Actually, it isn't the mood of the country. You don's see these white supremacists going to Democrat protests trying to beat them into silence. All the violence occurs where right wing people have rallys. Let's try this. How about you guys on the left ask your fascist arm to stop rioting, beating people, and burning things? Let's see what happens after that.
OK...historically speaking.. if there was no resistance to the White Supremacists you would have people hanging from trees or being put in ovens.
There is a difference between no resistance and purely non-violent resistance.
I do agree with your earlier point in that Trump should consistently and persistently condemn Nazism under all its names and banners. That would help . . . and would have helped over the last 7 (or 27) months.
DiscoGary wrote:
XY wrote:...
OK...historically speaking.. if there was no resistance to the White Supremacists you would have people hanging from trees or being put in ovens.
Straw man. There's loads of resistance to white supremacists, and it comes from the very people you are lumping in with them. These guys have close to no support from anywhere, but they still have rights. You are forcing me to fight you, when we should be on the same side. But I will never join those who use violence to silence others. No one else should either.
I believe strongly in what I said. You let these and other extremists have power and you will get the worst possible outcome. I don't care about other people, condemnation did not come the POTUS until there was political pressure form other Repubs. Pathetic character and pathetic leadership.
Pookie Washington wrote:
eric a blair wrote:gary both sides came to fight. They fought. That does not make both sides equally responsible. The Nazis are antithetical to America. They want to destroy America. Those opposing the Nazis are fighting to preserve the American idea.
Both came to fight. Both not equal.
But the Nazis are promoting White Power and genetic superiority so a$$wipes like DiscoGary, Foo fighter and exthrower are siding with them. No need to try to convince inbred retards.
Ok. That's enough you generalizing piece of shit. Don't lump me in with Nazis, you idiot.
DiscoGary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:Anybody who denied someone of their rights should be duly charged.
There is no excuse for murder and terrorism. You are saying that terrorism is the fault of the victims. Your view is as disgusting as any Nazi.
I don't know that whole story yet, and neither do you. I'm willing to wait, and you are not. That's because I have experience with these Antifa types and you don't. Let's see what really happened before we rip the country apart. Well, too late for that.
You are the one who blamed the victims, Gary.
DiscoGary wrote:
But I will never join those who use violence to silence others.
You have already joined with the driver who killed that young lady. You've tried to defend him this very day.
And your defense went far beyond, "We just need to wait for all the evidence." You posted a doctored video and tried to plead his innocence.
The KKK and neo-Nazis have always been about violence and intimidation. You have joined with them today.
good lord you pea-brained cucks still talking about charlottesville? lol move on libtwats hillary investigation is broadening and the popular vote myth is shattering before your eyes. trump has DESTROYED you
cucks, cucks everywhere wrote:
good lord you pea-brained cucks still talking about charlottesville? lol move on libtwats hillary investigation is broadening and the popular vote myth is shattering before your eyes. trump has DESTROYED you
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DiscoGary wrote:
eric a blair wrote:gary both sides came to fight. They fought. That does not make both sides equally responsible. The Nazis are antithetical to America. They want to destroy America. Those opposing the Nazis are fighting to preserve the American idea.
Both came to fight. Both not equal.
One side came to legally protest knowing that the other side was going to show up and try to beat them into silence. Those Antifa people who have decided that they have the right to deprive others of their rights, are directly undermining free speech, the rule of law, and idea that we tolerate bad ideas. The Antifa guys embody anti-American fascism. Believe it or not, the fact that our society can tolerate people carrying Nazi flags in public without losing sight of our rights or losing our minds used to be something Americans were PROUD of!
To be an American means we HAVE to support the right of Nazis to march! If we shut up the Nazis, then soon they'll shut me up, then the next group, and ultimately you. Eventually everyone lives in fear. I would say we are already there.
Gary, both sides came to fight. The klanners came with sticks and shields. Some 'patrolled' with rifles. The antifa came with helmets and whatever.
they fought. they all knew there would be a fight. They both came for a fight. Men do that sometimes.
Your creation of some kind of a peaceful klan protest vs vicious lefty thugs isn't accurate.
https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/mt/2017/08/RTS1BJPN/lead_960.jpg?1502743974The issue that pertains to this thread is that Trump's rise has made bigots feel comfortable coming out in public and showing their faces.
Still stinging after the election loss, eh? Supporter of terrorist, that's out there Fatty, even for you.Ironically, it's just what Hillary was willing to let in for political gain, but sadly:) she lost the election as the people voted. The terrorist Liberals, you, couldn't get their racist fake candidate in Office as they surely thought they'd win Ohio, Florida, Michigan, etc...but they didn't. Now YOU call other people supporters of terrorists. Wow, you really are the pits. Do you live in the projects or can you just see them from your bedroom window?
Fat hurts wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:The guy was driving very slowly trying to get through the crowd. There's video of someone hitting the back of the guy's car very hard with something that might have been a bat. After that, he took off straight into the crowd.
Uh-oh. Now what do we think?
We think the driver is a terrorist.
We think you are a supporter of the terrorist.
No, you lost, so you call everyone a bigot when in reality, it's the Left Losers who are closet case bigots, like you and your buddies on here. Suck it LL!
L L wrote:
The issue that pertains to this thread is that Trump's rise has made bigots feel comfortable coming out in public and showing their faces.
DiscoGary wrote:
foo wrote:Disco, you are stooping to new lows defending a Nazi terrorist.
What ever happened to the days when you were just a conservative Republican concerned about losing Constitutional rights? I used to even appreciate your opinions.
Somewhere along the line, you've become very deranged.
Not deranged. Consistent.
I support the 1st amendment rights of everyone, no matter what they have to say.
You should keep in mind that these Antifa people violated my first amendment rights, and that Democrats/liberals have called me a white supremacist and a Nazi and every other name you could think of simply for disagreeing on policy. You guys have thrown nearly half the country into the Basket of Irredeemable Deplorables. So if I let you succeed in silencing these guys, then you will have succeeded in silencing me and nearly half of the country as well.
I am consistent. You will not understand that. You are blinded by hate.
Disco, do you not observe the vile language that your conservative cronies use in describing liberals and even moderates such as myself? You guys have labeled more than half the country as: cucks, lib*ards, "gay trannies", commies, non-working leaches... and those are the things I will repeat. The right is much more obscene than the left. But, these names thrown around here are mostly just empty words when compared to the legitimate hatred thrown around by the people you are defending.
How exactly am I blinded by hate because I am calling you out for defending someone who ran over innocent people? Killing random people to further ones cause and intimidate is not free speech. It is terrorism.
