Foo fighter wrote:
And years later, Obama still won't say "Islamic Terrorism".
Meanwhile:
And though he condemned racism, Trump did not refer to the attack on the counterprotesters as “domestic terrorism,†…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/14/trump-denounces-kkk-neo-nazis-as-justice-department-launches-civil-rights-probe-into-charlottesville-death/DiscoGary wrote:
The guy was driving very slowly trying to get through the crowd. There's video of someone hitting the back of the guy's car very hard with something that might have been a bat. After that, he took off straight into the crowd.
Uh-oh. Now what do we think?
We think the driver is a terrorist.
We think you are a supporter of the terrorist.
and now wrote:
Foo fighter wrote:And years later, Obama still won't say "Islamic Terrorism".
Meanwhile:
And though he condemned racism, Trump did not refer to the attack on the counterprotesters as “domestic terrorism,†…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/14/trump-denounces-kkk-neo-nazis-as-justice-department-launches-civil-rights-probe-into-charlottesville-death/
That's because it wasn't. Even the police are saying the guy just got scared and panicked.
Fat hurts wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:The guy was driving very slowly trying to get through the crowd. There's video of someone hitting the back of the guy's car very hard with something that might have been a bat. After that, he took off straight into the crowd.
Uh-oh. Now what do we think?
We think the driver is a terrorist.
We think you are a supporter of the terrorist.
No. It doesn't look like terrorism.
Disco, you are stooping to new lows defending a Nazi terrorist.
What ever happened to the days when you were just a conservative Republican concerned about losing Constitutional rights? I used to even appreciate your opinions.
Somewhere along the line, you've become very deranged.
Doesn't look like a terrorist to me. A terrorist could have opened fire or driven through the crowd faster with much more clear intent.
foo writer,
Not that I have read too many of your posts, but you seem to have capacity for smart intelligent posts, but all too often you post nonsense like this:
"Liberalism is the rotting corpse of American politics. Its triggered snowflake, SJW acolytes are reduced to p-ussy hats, thug masks and hoodies".
Too bad because I really think you can do better.
DiscoGary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:We think the driver is a terrorist.
We think you are a supporter of the terrorist.
No. It doesn't look like terrorism.
In fact the evidence is that this guy was the victim of left-wing terrorism when someone hit the back of his car. He just screwed up by over-reacting. Put yourself in his position. What would you have done?
One thing we do know for sure, the Antifa people who showed up to beat the legal protesters into silence are guilty of terrorism, and of violating the 1st amendment rights of the legal protesters.
HardLoper wrote:
Correct, leftists will never be satisfied. Remind me how many days it took Obama to single out Islamic terrorism? Oh yeah never.
Remind me how many Pro-Jihad rallies were held in America where the participants wore Obama-themed outfits and pledged their loyalty to him? Oh yeah, none.
DiscoGary wrote:
Your story is much different than his. He went to a legal rally, was confronted by violent people armed for battle, the rally was dispersed by the police, and the only exit for the legal protesters was to go THROUGH the left wing fascists. More fighting, more beatings, more pepper spray.
I'm guessing he got into his car, and turned down the wrong street, realized he was surrounded by people who were beating on him a minute ago, got worried about what might happen, and then BAM! Something hits his car hard and he can't see what it is, he doesn't know what will happen next because BLM people have been known to drag people out of their cars and beat them up, so he panics and hits the gas to try to get out of there.
That's what I think happened. Was it the right thing to do? No. Was it an explicit act of terrorism. No.
That's a nice little fairy tale you concocted there, Gary. Your need to blame the left for all the world's problems is truly pathological. You can see a more complete video from the same angle below. The car was not approaching slowly. This was deliberate. These Nazis came to their "legal rally" armed to the teeth. Many of them were dressed in combat fatigues. They were desperate for a fight (what Nazis aren't??). Yet, you defend them, present them as innocents, and blame the deaths they caused on liberals. You are fvcked.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/car-hits-crowd-protesters-white-nationalist-rally-virginia/story?id=49179590DiscoGary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:We think the driver is a terrorist.
We think you are a supporter of the terrorist.
No. It doesn't look like terrorism.
Not terrorism, but the guy has a hateful, racists trail and just happened showed up to the rally, and just happened to run over counter protesters. Yes, many of the counter protesters were violent also. It's now the mood of the country. As a leader your POTUS isn't helping much is he?
foo wrote:
Disco, you are stooping to new lows defending a Nazi terrorist.
What ever happened to the days when you were just a conservative Republican concerned about losing Constitutional rights? I used to even appreciate your opinions.
Somewhere along the line, you've become very deranged.
Not deranged. Consistent.
I support the 1st amendment rights of everyone, no matter what they have to say.
You should keep in mind that these Antifa people violated my first amendment rights, and that Democrats/liberals have called me a white supremacist and a Nazi and every other name you could think of simply for disagreeing on policy. You guys have thrown nearly half the country into the Basket of Irredeemable Deplorables. So if I let you succeed in silencing these guys, then you will have succeeded in silencing me and nearly half of the country as well.
I am consistent. You will not understand that. You are blinded by hate.
and now wrote:
Foo fighter wrote:And years later, Obama still won't say "Islamic Terrorism".
Meanwhile:
And though he condemned racism, Trump did not refer to the attack on the counterprotesters as “domestic terrorism,†…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/14/trump-denounces-kkk-neo-nazis-as-justice-department-launches-civil-rights-probe-into-charlottesville-death/
Weak, pathetic lib. You came up with a term, that hardly anyone has criticized Trump for not using. It doesn't matter, this story will blow over and you will go back to your tired "Russia, Russia, Russia" story. Enjoy losing more Congressional seats in 2018 and Trump re-elected in 2020.
XY wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:No. It doesn't look like terrorism.
Not terrorism, but the guy has a hateful, racists trail and just happened showed up to the rally, and just happened to run over counter protesters. Yes, many of the counter protesters were violent also. It's now the mood of the country. As a leader your POTUS isn't helping much is he?
Actually, it isn't the mood of the country. You don's see these white supremacists going to Democrat protests trying to beat them into silence. All the violence occurs where right wing people have rallys. Let's try this. How about you guys on the left ask your fascist arm to stop rioting, beating people, and burning things? Let's see what happens after that.
The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
HardLoper wrote:Correct, leftists will never be satisfied. Remind me how many days it took Obama to single out Islamic terrorism? Oh yeah never.
Remind me how many Pro-Jihad rallies were held in America where the participants wore Obama-themed outfits and pledged their loyalty to him? Oh yeah, none.
DiscoGary wrote:
Your story is much different than his. He went to a legal rally, was confronted by violent people armed for battle, the rally was dispersed by the police, and the only exit for the legal protesters was to go THROUGH the left wing fascists. More fighting, more beatings, more pepper spray.
I'm guessing he got into his car, and turned down the wrong street, realized he was surrounded by people who were beating on him a minute ago, got worried about what might happen, and then BAM! Something hits his car hard and he can't see what it is, he doesn't know what will happen next because BLM people have been known to drag people out of their cars and beat them up, so he panics and hits the gas to try to get out of there.
That's what I think happened. Was it the right thing to do? No. Was it an explicit act of terrorism. No.
That's a nice little fairy tale you concocted there, Gary. Your need to blame the left for all the world's problems is truly pathological. You can see a more complete video from the same angle below. The car was not approaching slowly. This was deliberate. These Nazis came to their "legal rally" armed to the teeth. Many of them were dressed in combat fatigues. They were desperate for a fight (what Nazis aren't??). Yet, you defend them, present them as innocents, and blame the deaths they caused on liberals. You are fvcked.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/car-hits-crowd-protesters-white-nationalist-rally-virginia/story?id=49179590
Nope. Just standing up for free speech. Would have there been any violence if the fascist left hadn't shown up to beat them into silence? Nope. None at all. This would have been a non-story if no one showed up to cause trouble. This was caused by the left. If you can't see that, then you are being played.
Once you agree to throw out the rights of one group, it's a very slippery slope to where everyone fears speaking out on anything. You should be thinking about the day when the Antifa people show up at your door because you failed some PC test. Remember, the police won't protect you. What will you do?
DiscoGary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:We think the driver is a terrorist.
We think you are a supporter of the terrorist.
No. It doesn't look like terrorism.
You saw what you wanted to see. Your video is edited. Look at the full length video and it is clear that the car accelerated into the crowd before the person tried to "bat" the back of it.
The driver is a terrorist and you are trying to support him.
Conundrum wrote:
foo writer,
Not that I have read too many of your posts, but you seem to have capacity for smart intelligent posts, but all too often you post nonsense like this:
"Liberalism is the rotting corpse of American politics. Its triggered snowflake, SJW acolytes are reduced to p-ussy hats, thug masks and hoodies".
Too bad because I really think you can do better.
Like my my handle, I fight for my point of view. Plenty of your liberal friends have insulted Trump supporters and hit below the belt, so what? That's the deal.
If you wanna play referee, then you better call out your lib friends for posting nonsense. (And don't tell me they don't). Deal?
Fat hurts wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:No. It doesn't look like terrorism.
You saw what you wanted to see. Your video is edited. Look at the full length video and it is clear that the car accelerated into the crowd before the person tried to "bat" the back of it.
The driver is a terrorist and you are trying to support him.
Fair enough, but did he hit anyone before getting hit by the bat? And what happened before he accelerated that first time? If his intent was to run over people, then why wait to get hit by a bat to do it? And I certainly admit that he did the wrong thing. I just want to get the whole story before starting a bloody race war.
You have not been in a crowd of these people. I have. When they find a target they do everything they can to provoke a confrontation. If this guy in his car was identified as the "enemy" then he was in a lot of danger, and he would have known it.
Fat hurts wrote:
You saw what you wanted to see.
....
And as far as seeing what we want to see, can you see that the pro-statue protesters had a legal right to be there, and that their rights were being violently violated by leftists?
The biggest problem we have in this country is that those on the left think that their moral outrage grants them the right to deprive others of their rights. It doesn't. Your side needs to stop doing that.
The proper response to this disaster is to point the finger at the Antifa people and demand that they obey the laws. That's the source of the problem.
DiscoGary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:You saw what you wanted to see.
....
And as far as seeing what we want to see, can you see that the pro-statue protesters had a legal right to be there, and that their rights were being violently violated by leftists?
The biggest problem we have in this country is that those on the left think that their moral outrage grants them the right to deprive others of their rights. It doesn't. Your side needs to stop doing that.
The proper response to this disaster is to point the finger at the Antifa people and demand that they obey the laws. That's the source of the problem.
gary both sides came to fight. They fought. That does not make both sides equally responsible. The Nazis are antithetical to America. They want to destroy America. Those opposing the Nazis are fighting to preserve the American idea.
Both came to fight. Both not equal.
DiscoGary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:You saw what you wanted to see. Your video is edited. Look at the full length video and it is clear that the car accelerated into the crowd before the person tried to "bat" the back of it.
The driver is a terrorist and you are trying to support him.
Fair enough, but did he hit anyone before getting hit by the bat? And what happened before he accelerated that first time? If his intent was to run over people, then why wait to get hit by a bat to do it? And I certainly admit that he did the wrong thing. I just want to get the whole story before starting a bloody race war.
You have not been in a crowd of these people. I have. When they find a target they do everything they can to provoke a confrontation. If this guy in his car was identified as the "enemy" then he was in a lot of danger, and he would have known it.
Are you kidding? Watch the crowd desperately trying to get out of the way. This is well before the person tried to "bat" the car.
There was nobody near the car when he started accelerating.
The driver is a terrorist and a murderer. You are supporting this disgusting piece of scum.