The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.
Joseph Goebbels
The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.
Joseph Goebbels
fbPost. wrote:
Rob Young Lives- fb post.
"I understand Skins' decision to focus their attention elsewhere moving forward. Whilst not necessarily agreeing entirely with the findings, I respect the conclusions of the investigators and the process undertaken by Skins. I left the UK intent on giving everything I had to break the Race Across USA record, and hopefully some of the images posted throughout, showed the torture I put my body through. Whilst running to break the record, I was also running on behalf of charities close to my heart, and to inspire youngsters to run. Indeed some of the support I had from local communities whilst in the US was overwhelming. I admittedly made mistakes with the data management and recordings, but never did I cheat. And I will set out to prove that next year with as much scrutiny as is required when I compete in the 6 day race in New York and thereafter seek to break the record for Race Across USA. I want to thank Michael and Dusty for their assistance in crewing me, and all those who supported me throughout. I will never give up."
The legend lives on. Providing oxygen to this thread ad infinitum.
Let's face it - it would be awesome entertainment if he had another crack at the transcon.
Great times. I'm genuinely glad if he doesn't quit.
Wow, NOW he is calling for the wolves to get him.
One of his dumbest moves so far...
Frank Spinner wrote:
fbPost. wrote:Rob Young Lives- fb post.
"I understand Skins' decision to focus their attention elsewhere moving forward. Whilst not necessarily agreeing entirely with the findings, I respect the conclusions of the investigators and the process undertaken by Skins. I left the UK intent on giving everything I had to break the Race Across USA record, and hopefully some of the images posted throughout, showed the torture I put my body through. Whilst running to break the record, I was also running on behalf of charities close to my heart, and to inspire youngsters to run. Indeed some of the support I had from local communities whilst in the US was overwhelming. I admittedly made mistakes with the data management and recordings, but never did I cheat. And I will set out to prove that next year with as much scrutiny as is required when I compete in the 6 day race in New York and thereafter seek to break the record for Race Across USA. I want to thank Michael and Dusty for their assistance in crewing me, and all those who supported me throughout. I will never give up."
The legend lives on. Providing oxygen to this thread ad infinitum.
Let's face it - it would be awesome entertainment if he had another crack at the transcon.
Great times. I'm genuinely glad if he doesn't quit.
I think they made a mistake in focusing on the cadence. He can just say, like he did here, "I'm not good at the technology" and "sometimes I left the TomTom in the RV while I ran alongside".
Maybe he thinks he really can do it. And when he fails, he will have given it his all for the children in spite of a grave injury that would have caused any mere mortal to quit earlier.
Always for the children.
TommyTom wrote:
Frank Spinner wrote:The legend lives on. Providing oxygen to this thread ad infinitum.
Let's face it - it would be awesome entertainment if he had another crack at the transcon.
Great times. I'm genuinely glad if he doesn't quit.
I think they made a mistake in focusing on the cadence. He can just say, like he did here, "I'm not good at the technology" and "sometimes I left the TomTom in the RV while I ran alongside".
Maybe he thinks he really can do it. And when he fails, he will have given it his all for the children in spite of a grave injury that would have caused any mere mortal to quit earlier.
Always for the children.
They did the right thing in focusing in the cadence. Liars are going to lie regardless. There is not set of proofs that this liar would not have made an excuse for.
His public statement is utterly pathetic and anybody with half a brain can see the diversion and attempt to salvage his "brand" instead of addressing his cheating. Hilarious that he thinks that statement will "put it behind him"
During interviews they made it clear they never forgot to wear the watches. Also if they were in the RV it would end up Miles ahead and there would be timeline issues as to the start/finish starts of each run.
Still no comment on
1. how his watches Factory reset themselves. (as if)
2. Why he refused to provide the laptop (with backup run files)
3. Why he deleted files (proven by captured screenshots by LR users)
No apology means that he will keep getting shit for cheating and failing to come clean. He has brought this onto himself.
fbPost. wrote:
Rob Young Lives- fb post.
"I understand Skins' decision to focus their attention elsewhere moving forward. Whilst not necessarily agreeing entirely with the findings, I respect the conclusions of the investigators and the process undertaken by Skins. I left the UK intent on giving everything I had to break the Race Across USA record, and hopefully some of the images posted throughout, showed the torture I put my body through. Whilst running to break the record, I was also running on behalf of charities close to my heart, and to inspire youngsters to run. Indeed some of the support I had from local communities whilst in the US was overwhelming. I admittedly made mistakes with the data management and recordings, but never did I cheat. And I will set out to prove that next year with as much scrutiny as is required when I compete in the 6 day race in New York and thereafter seek to break the record for Race Across USA. I want to thank Michael and Dusty for their assistance in crewing me, and all those who supported me throughout. I will never give up."
Excellent. Finally someone who considers the facts, not some rumours from clown scientists. Tucker lost all credibility by pretending both Farah and Radcliffe may not be 100% clean. Obviously he suffers from an anti-British sentiment.
And no, I am not British, I only consider evidence, not hearsay. The innocent Mr. Young has no case to answer.
rekruÉ´É´er wrote:
Excellent. Finally someone who considers the facts, not some rumours from clown scientists. Tucker lost all credibility by pretending both Farah and Radcliffe may not be 100% clean. Obviously he suffers from an anti-British sentiment.
And no, I am not British, I only consider evidence, not hearsay. The innocent Mr. Young has no case to answer.
Shit troll.
Can someone link the SKINS statement please?
I'm now banned from MarathonManUK FB page after making a few comments. People, please keep up the pressure!
Anything yet from Brit media?
TommyTom wrote:
Frank Spinner wrote:The legend lives on. Providing oxygen to this thread ad infinitum.
Let's face it - it would be awesome entertainment if he had another crack at the transcon.
Great times. I'm genuinely glad if he doesn't quit.
I think they made a mistake in focusing on the cadence. He can just say, like he did here, "I'm not good at the technology" and "sometimes I left the TomTom in the RV while I ran alongside".
Maybe he thinks he really can do it. And when he fails, he will have given it his all for the children in spite of a grave injury that would have caused any mere mortal to quit earlier.
Always for the children.
The cadence data is irrefutable but, as you say, open to vacuous statements claiming ignorance (which inevitably some people will buy).
The REAL smoking gun in all this is the day/night and pre/post 'Geezer' monitoring discrepancies. Anyway, the fact that he's STILL denying it is further proof (as if any were needed) that there is something seriously wrong with him mentally. I'd find it funny if it wasn't so sad
insider info wrote:
I'm now banned from MarathonManUK FB page after making a few comments. People, please keep up the pressure!
i wouldnt be too concerned about getting banned or keeping up the pressure.
RY is cooked. his response just makes him look worse
sure a few of his more fanatical facebook followers may believe it but he's going to have a hard time finding charities that want to associate with him or a sponsor willing to fund his next endeavour.
the only thing left for him now is to run legitimate races using his own money.
why bother wrote:
insider info wrote:I'm now banned from MarathonManUK FB page after making a few comments. People, please keep up the pressure!
i wouldnt be too concerned about getting banned or keeping up the pressure.
RY is cooked. his response just makes him look worse
sure a few of his more fanatical facebook followers may believe it but he's going to have a hard time finding charities that want to associate with him or a sponsor willing to fund his next endeavour.
the only thing left for him now is to run legitimate races using his own money.
Thing is, I do genuinely pity the people who still believe him. Yes, they are gullible, but I have sympathy. To lead people on like that is despicable, and I think they should be informed of the truth.
insider info wrote:
I'm now banned from MarathonManUK FB page after making a few comments. People, please keep up the pressure!
Are you sure? seems the whole page is off-line
fbPost. wrote:
Rob Young Lives- fb post.
"I understand Skins' decision to focus their attention elsewhere moving forward. Whilst not necessarily agreeing entirely with the findings, I respect the conclusions of the investigators and the process undertaken by Skins. I left the UK intent on giving everything I had to break the Race Across USA record, and hopefully some of the images posted throughout, showed the torture I put my body through. Whilst running to break the record, I was also running on behalf of charities close to my heart, and to inspire youngsters to run. Indeed some of the support I had from local communities whilst in the US was overwhelming. I admittedly made mistakes with the data management and recordings, but never did I cheat. And I will set out to prove that next year with as much scrutiny as is required when I compete in the 6 day race in New York and thereafter seek to break the record for Race Across USA. I want to thank Michael and Dusty for their assistance in crewing me, and all those who supported me throughout. I will never give up."
One question. Is Robert Young mentally challenged? His statement makes no sense logically.
Please explain this to me. How can one say the following two things in the same post?
"I respect the conclusions of the investigators and the process undertaken by Skins" and "t never did I cheat."
If you respect the conclusions of the investigators, then you respect that they say there's no doubt- you cheated.
fbPost. wrote:
insider info wrote:I'm now banned from MarathonManUK FB page after making a few comments. People, please keep up the pressure!
Are you sure? seems the whole page is off-line
It's been taken down or made private. I'd never visited it before nor made facebook comments about him, but clicked just now and it's closed to me.
rojo wrote:
fbPost. wrote:Rob Young Lives- fb post.
"I understand Skins' decision to focus their attention elsewhere moving forward. Whilst not necessarily agreeing entirely with the findings, I respect the conclusions of the investigators and the process undertaken by Skins. I left the UK intent on giving everything I had to break the Race Across USA record, and hopefully some of the images posted throughout, showed the torture I put my body through. Whilst running to break the record, I was also running on behalf of charities close to my heart, and to inspire youngsters to run. Indeed some of the support I had from local communities whilst in the US was overwhelming. I admittedly made mistakes with the data management and recordings, but never did I cheat. And I will set out to prove that next year with as much scrutiny as is required when I compete in the 6 day race in New York and thereafter seek to break the record for Race Across USA. I want to thank Michael and Dusty for their assistance in crewing me, and all those who supported me throughout. I will never give up."
One question. Is Robert Young mentally challenged? His statement makes no sense logically.
Please explain this to me. How can one say the following two things in the same post?
"I respect the conclusions of the investigators and the process undertaken by Skins" and "t never did I cheat."
If you respect the conclusions of the investigators, then you respect that they say there's no doubt- you cheated.
I think the more simple explanation is that RY is just a bit simple. He says things like that because he thinks it sounds polite. He thinks having a rapport is enough to convince thinking people. He doesn't really understand the meaning of things he actually says.
That was very clear in his interview in the SKINS report, where he makes some nonsense comment about wishing he could portray his emotions to the investigators, as if that would in any way have a bearing on the evidence they want to discuss.
Baladeer wrote:
http://picosong.com/T7fu/Editor's note: We highly recommend you click on the link above. It's a song about Robert Young's fraud coming to an end.
In case you guys didn't click on the link earlier, please do so now. It's not spam. It takes you to a song about Young.
I LOVED it, particularly the middle part.
I think I'm going to make this QOD tomorrow.
The song says:
"I guess he thought he'd get away with it and that it would not go bad.
Basking in the thrill of it, the accolades thrown his way. Now nothing but dead flowers, nothing more to say.
Of course as with Lance or the Philly DJ, they won't change their stance and say he ran all the way.
He did it for charity - what did he gain? You can ask for clarity from one who is so inane.
Did he diminish the most honest folks who run through the finish and who don't constantly boast?
It will happen again, for that you can be sure..."
Does anyone know the same of the singer/song writer? I want to give credit to him.
So I hadn't been paying attention to Young at all since he stopped running. We were focused on the Olympics and what not. Believe it or not, no one on our staff even knew there was an 'independent investigation' going on until we saw a tweet about it a few days ago.
Now I'm getting all riled up yet again.
I just read the statement from Skins and it bothers me.
Here it is:
https://www.skins.net/au/rob-young-trans-america-attempt-investigation-media-release
Check this quote out.
"“The report also contains a salutary lesson for SKINS. We placed too many expectations on one staff member and under-estimated the work involved."
And then there is is this from the CEO"s blog.
"I accept the Pielke/Tucker findings that SKINS, as a company, could have managed this better by having an appropriate level of management and coordination of the run.
"This is not a reflection on the lone SKINS staffer who was present, because it is clear now that it is unfair to expect one person to perform social media duties, support crew and run management and monitoring activity alone, all whilst driving the support vehicle.
"We have learned our lesson from this and will ensure that any future attempt is staffed appropriately."
WHAT THE HELL? Why isn't the employee terminated? Do they have weird termination laws in the UK? I know companies are worried about lawsuits but anyone with a brain would conclude that it's impossible for someone driving the vehicle, whether understaffed or not, to realize that the guy supposedly running behind you wasn't running for miles and miles on end (Most assume he was of course riding in the RV the whole time).
I applaud Skins for actually paying for the report but come on. The employee at a minimum should be fired for incompetence.
If your job is to oversee a project and it goes TERRIBLY wrong, you get the axe. When you terminate him, you don't have to worry about a lawsuit as you terminate him for failing to do his job - you don't have to necessarily say he committed fraud.
Any UK lawyers on here? Comments?