Trump wins in a landslide. GOP retake house and expand the senate majority.
Trump wins in a landslide. GOP retake house and expand the senate majority.
rejecting bad data wrote:
Trump wins in a landslide. GOP retake house and expand the senate majority.
Only with voter fraud. By Trump.
1101 wrote:
agip wrote:
think about it in the reverse.
Why did Trump win? Trump won mostly because people hated HRC so much and didn't want her as president.
Now the situation is reversed.
Why will Biden win? Biden will win mostly because people hate Trump so much and dont' want him as president.
These days we vote more *against* the other party than *for* our own. You don't put a yard sign up against the other guy, but it makes you vote.
I don't think this is a new phenomenon. People have always voted against the other guy more than for their own choice.
For most of my adult life, I have been talked to voters during the run up and immediately after each presidential election. I am certain that I could count on one hand the number of people who have justified their vote primarily on the basis of what they liked about "their guy" rather than what they disliked about "the other guy." And this is out of over a thousand such "interviews" since 1976.
Trumpers would be the argument against your point.
Breaking News: Trump is STILL Putin’s puppet.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-press-secretary-refuses-blame-183947260.html
L L wrote:
[quote]CountChocula wrote:
Trump fans are more rabid but they are not more plentiful.
That is true. They are rabid because they are mostly white men, and that group is afraid of a less and less white nation. Why? Because they are racist. Not all Trump supporters are racist, just the ones that fear becoming a minority. They are ALL stupid though.
Trump supporters are more rabid about Trump than Biden supporters are about Biden, but as you said, there are more Biden supporters...fueled by the need to remove Trump from office.
johnny99 wrote:
Fox News poll from 9/1 is bad news for Trump. Biden is beating him in AZ, NC and WI among likely voters. Trump won all 3 states in 2016.
AZ: Biden by 9
NC: Biden by 4
WI: Biden by 8
If the rioting and protesting was hurting Biden and helping Trump, you'd expect to see that particularly in Wisconsin, but Biden still has a comfortable lead there.
Also, the question of who is better able to handle policing and criminal justice didn't go so well for our "law and order" President. On this question, Biden beat Trump by 5 in AZ and WI; Trump beat Biden by 1 in NC.
https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-biden-tops-trump-among-likely-voters-in-key-states
Our two resident Trump morons have no idea what they are talking about.
Regarding MN since one of the two outrageously stupid ones is crowing about a possibility of Trump winning, some polls out in the last 3 days all have Biden up...by 2 points, 3 points, 7 points, and 8 points. Biden is closer to Trump in Texas than Trump is to Biden in Minnesota. Trump leads Biden by 1 point in Texas based on polls from Sept. 1.
Fox News polls are consistently showing Biden over Trump in battleground states.
Recent polls show Biden up by 10 in Wisconsin and Michigan, states that went to Trump in 2016. Biden will win those states. Those two alone get Biden to 258, so he needs just one of the following states to win the election:
OH (Trump probably wins OH)
PA - Biden is up 8 points in Sept. 1 poll
FL - Biden up 3 points, 7 points, 2 points, and 5 points in 4 polls from Sept. 1 and more recent
NC - Biden up by 4 points in Fox News Sept. 1 poll and up 2 points in another poll
GA - One Aug. 30 poll has Biden up 3 points and another has Biden up 1 point.
Or, if you consider all of those states, if Biden wins Florida, it's over, or if Biden wins AZ (he's up by 10 points in two Sept. 1 polls there) and any other state on the list, it's over.
L L wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Just to address one of your points - riots ARE helping Trump in a very big way.
That's why Trump sends the National Guard and local police into crowds to tear gas them and provoke them into more riots.
And why Trump supporters ride into cities brandishing guns, to provoke more riots.
They think that image somehow helps Trump, even though it's Trump who is in office right now as this is happening.
Riots do not help the party in power. The outrageously stupid two Trumpers here have that wrong. The President gets credit or blame for the shape of the economy, regardless of whether he had anything to do with that. The same is true for civil unrest. That's why it is one of Lichtman's keys. That's part of the reason Lichtman has said Biden will win.
rejecting bad data wrote:
Trump wins in a landslide. GOP retake house and expand the senate majority.
Ok Newt
Gina wrote:
Breaking News: Trump is STILL Putin’s puppet.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-press-secretary-refuses-blame-183947260.html
Right, the default response when asked about anything inconsistent with their agenda is that "it's not something their looking into".
Trollminator wrote:
Gina wrote:
Breaking News: Trump is STILL Putin’s puppet.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-press-secretary-refuses-blame-183947260.htmlRight, the default response when asked about anything inconsistent with their agenda is that "it's not something their looking into".
The Trump/Putin reelection campaign is running full force. Congress has been cut off from in person intelligence reports because the administration doesn't want awkward questions about Russian interference.
China may prefer Biden but Russia is currently actively involved in a well organized misinformation campaign to re-elect Trump. There is no equivalence here.
Russia and Trump supporters (many included on this site) are spreading the same false rumors about mail in election fraud and Biden's mental state.
Russia has had a very good 4 years and wants to repeat that success.
Re; this Atlantic story with Trump hating on US service members.
It's based on 4 anonymous sources.
The AP corroborated the story.
but so far the actual sources have not come forward.
How cool would it be if the sources were playing a game here...a classic military maneuver where you fein weakness at a chosen place in your line. The enemy attacks there...and falls into the giant pit you dug in that very spot. A trap.
I'm hoping the four sources let Trump and Trumpists stick their necks out denying this story, and then come forward together, declaring themselves in public.
That might break through the fog.
Sally Vix wrote:
Please QUIT saying how Trump is going to prison, is going down, is going to be brought down by Mueller, going to be ratted out by Cohen, will be brought down by Stormy Daniel payments, Karen mcDougal, going to be brought down by SDNY, blah blah blah blah blah. You sound like a clown. We have heard this crap for 4 years. He is still running the country from the Oval Office and you are a two- bit clown who has been saying this crap for four years. Really, Trollminator? You have no life to be here 24/7 and calling Trump a criminal when you have NO LIFE? ARE you really this big of a clown? You are here all day life. Time to get a grip and get a life. Sheesh.
What you wrote there is proof that the entire Republican party is corrupt.
Mueller unveiled numerous wrongdoings by Trump and his campaign.
Cohen did rat out Trump and in fact went to prison for acting at the behest of Trump.
Payments to Daniels to aid his campaign was criminal.
The SDNY seems to have money laundering evidence.
And you forgot to mention that he withheld Congressionally allocated funds to Ukraine for political purpose.
Why is Trump not in prison?
The DOJ guideline is to not indict a sitting president and Barr has done everything in his power to protect Trump.
Why is he still in office?
Republicans (except for Amash and Romney) refuse to impeach or convict him.
The Republican party is prepared to allow Trump to do anything he wants - regardless of law, regardless of order and regardless of ethics.
Flagpole wrote:
Not all Trump supporters are racist, just the ones that fear becoming a minority. They are ALL stupid though.
Correct. Any republican who decides to go Trump, either believes in the crap peddled by this white house or they are simply sticking to party lines. Either way these aren't the brightest bulbs in the tree.
If you need to vote republican, vote that way all the way down the ballot. Take control of the house and the senate. But there is ZERO logical reason to want Trump running the executive branch.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
I'm supposed to believe this happened in 2018 and “sources” just sat on this story until right now as he’s suddenly doing better in some polls? Riiiiiiight.
You believe that God allowed Satan to kill Job’s whole family.
The story in The Atlantic seems like less of a stretch.
agip wrote:
Re; this Atlantic story with Trump hating on US service members.
It's based on 4 anonymous sources.
The AP corroborated the story.
but so far the actual sources have not come forward.
How cool would it be if the sources were playing a game here...a classic military maneuver where you fein weakness at a chosen place in your line. The enemy attacks there...and falls into the giant pit you dug in that very spot. A trap.
I'm hoping the four sources let Trump and Trumpists stick their necks out denying this story, and then come forward together, declaring themselves in public.
That might break through the fog.
Nothing will "break through the fog". They listened to this guy on tape bragging about how he sexually assaults women and still voted for him.
So the feds got the thug responsible for shooting the Patriot prayer guy in Portland. They released his picture prior to locating him in Washington state as special ops warriors closed in on him.
You can tell he’d be a murderous thug just from his picture. He fits the “profile” is you know what I mean (wink, wink...doh whistle). When will people in his community speak out about the severe dysfunction plague “their kind”? Here is his pic.....
good news trumpers - your man found a way to shut down a newspaper.
More to follow if he wins in november, I'm sure.
Dan Kahneman wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
Right, the default response when asked about anything inconsistent with their agenda is that "it's not something their looking into".
The Trump/Putin reelection campaign is running full force. Congress has been cut off from in person intelligence reports because the administration doesn't want awkward questions about Russian interference.
China may prefer Biden but Russia is currently actively involved in a well organized misinformation campaign to re-elect Trump. There is no equivalence here.
Russia and Trump supporters (many included on this site) are spreading the same false rumors about mail in election fraud and Biden's mental state.
Russia has had a very good 4 years and wants to repeat that success.
It is really sad that trump has weakened the US to the point that China might have to compete with Russia with regard to interference. As crazy as it sounds, trump pretty much left China to take over as global leader in policy and diplomacy. He prefers to let the US crater under his corruption and isolationist strategy. Trumpers too pay the price but they smile and praise him even as they suffer like everyone else - broken promises, super expensive or no healthcare, hundreds of thousands dead, no jobs, terrible infrastructure, americans killing each other in his name, richer get richer while the 99% get left in the dust, future not looking good.
Trump left such a big diplomatic vacuum that China has taken over all major economic interests in Africa and Southeast Asia. Yeah, he sure made them pay! As for Putin, well, he smiles ear to ear knowing he could do whatever he wants in the middle east. There is a good chance he grabs Belarus right after trump declares himself the winner in Nov. But sure, lets all keep blaming the deep state and media.