Rigged for Hillary wrote:
^nothingburger
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
^nothingburger
Yeah, LL is a whack job leftist who unfortunately likes to point the finger wherever is convenient at the time. LL, you are one stupid poster.
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
L L wrote:I know Congress had no plan that would pass among themselves.
But Trump put the whole thing on his shoulders.
And he did not do his part.
Trump could have co-authored a bill and submitted that.
When the ACA was passed, Obama was involved in the slightest details of how it was written and made speeches to the public to explain what he was trying to do.
He fought hard to get a public option put in and explained the details of how it would work.
Now, the public option part was removed to get the votes. You can't blame Obama for not trying.
You can totally blame Trump for not trying in this case.
Obama read the whole thing? Drivel.
1. “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.†How did that turn out?
2. "Cut the cost of premiums by $2,500 for a family of four" How did that turn out?
3. "if you like your doctor, you will able to keep your doctor" How did that turn out?
Pelosi: "We have to pass this bill so that you can find out what's in it"
Yep, Obama knew all the details. Riiiiiight......
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
Obama read the whole thing? Drivel.
1. “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.†How did that turn out?
2. "Cut the cost of premiums by $2,500 for a family of four" How did that turn out?
3. "if you like your doctor, you will able to keep your doctor" How did that turn out?
Pelosi: "We have to pass this bill so that you can find out what's in it"
Yep, Obama knew all the details. Riiiiiight......
I'm sure we've covered this before, but just to set the record straight:
1. “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.†How did that turn out?
It turned out really well for most people. The worry was that the government was going to kick people off their plans. That only happened for people who were buying fraudulent insurance. Those folks were forced to buy real insurance that actually covered you when you got sick. Usually, the Obamacare plan was even cheaper than the fraud plan.
2. "Cut the cost of premiums by $2,500 for a family of four" How did that turn out?
That also turned out really well for most people. There is no doubt that the cost is lower than it would have been without Obamacare. For a huge number of people, the subsidies saved their families a lot more than $2500 and for millions it meant they could get insurance for the first time.
3. "if you like your doctor, you will able to keep your doctor" How did that turn out?
That turned out great. Again, the worry was that the government was going to determine who could see which doctor. But which doctor you can see is really determined by negotiations between your doctor and your insurance company. That's the way it has always been and that didn't change.
Pelosi: "We have to pass this bill so that you can find out what's in it"
Pelosi knew what was in the bill. But the American people didn't know how it was all going to turn out until after the bill was passed. Given that Obamacare's popularity is over 50% and rising, the people apparently found out that it was pretty good -- especially compared to before the law and compared to Republican alternatives.
#2 YOU'RE LYING! MY FAMILY, WIFE AND 2 KIDS, HAD OUR DEDUCTIBLE GO UP FROM $1900 to $5000!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T MAKE OVER $100,000 A YEAR. IF YOU'D LIKE TO CALL ME A LIAR, PONY UP WHAT YOU WANT, I'LL CONTACT THE BROTHERS AND WE'LL HAVE OUR NAMES AND IP'S KNOWN AND I'LL BET YOU THE MOON THAT YOU'RE FULL OF CRAP!!!!!!!NOW YOU'LL COME UP WITH THE EXCUSES...I SAID MOST, NOT ALL! OBAMACARE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fat hurts wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:Obama read the whole thing? Drivel.
1. “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.†How did that turn out?
2. "Cut the cost of premiums by $2,500 for a family of four" How did that turn out?
3. "if you like your doctor, you will able to keep your doctor" How did that turn out?
Pelosi: "We have to pass this bill so that you can find out what's in it"
Yep, Obama knew all the details. Riiiiiight......
I'm sure we've covered this before, but just to set the record straight:
1. “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.†How did that turn out?
It turned out really well for most people. The worry was that the government was going to kick people off their plans. That only happened for people who were buying fraudulent insurance. Those folks were forced to buy real insurance that actually covered you when you got sick. Usually, the Obamacare plan was even cheaper than the fraud plan.
2. "Cut the cost of premiums by $2,500 for a family of four" How did that turn out?
That also turned out really well for most people. There is no doubt that the cost is lower than it would have been without Obamacare. For a huge number of people, the subsidies saved their families a lot more than $2500 and for millions it meant they could get insurance for the first time.
3. "if you like your doctor, you will able to keep your doctor" How did that turn out?
That turned out great. Again, the worry was that the government was going to determine who could see which doctor. But which doctor you can see is really determined by negotiations between your doctor and your insurance company. That's the way it has always been and that didn't change.
Pelosi: "We have to pass this bill so that you can find out what's in it"
Pelosi knew what was in the bill. But the American people didn't know how it was all going to turn out until after the bill was passed. Given that Obamacare's popularity is over 50% and rising, the people apparently found out that it was pretty good -- especially compared to before the law and compared to Republican alternatives.
Oh yeah, how much denaro? wrote:
#2 YOU'RE LYING! MY FAMILY, WIFE AND 2 KIDS, HAD OUR DEDUCTIBLE GO UP FROM $1900 to $5000!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T MAKE OVER $100,000 A YEAR.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO CALL ME A LIAR, PONY UP WHAT YOU WANT, I'LL CONTACT THE BROTHERS AND WE'LL HAVE OUR NAMES AND IP'S KNOWN AND I'LL BET YOU THE MOON THAT YOU'RE FULL OF CRAP!!!!!!!
NOW YOU'LL COME UP WITH THE EXCUSES...I SAID MOST, NOT ALL!
OBAMACARE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fat hurts wrote:I'm sure we've covered this before, but just to set the record straight:
1. “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan.†How did that turn out?
It turned out really well for most people. The worry was that the government was going to kick people off their plans. That only happened for people who were buying fraudulent insurance. Those folks were forced to buy real insurance that actually covered you when you got sick. Usually, the Obamacare plan was even cheaper than the fraud plan.
2. "Cut the cost of premiums by $2,500 for a family of four" How did that turn out?
That also turned out really well for most people. There is no doubt that the cost is lower than it would have been without Obamacare. For a huge number of people, the subsidies saved their families a lot more than $2500 and for millions it meant they could get insurance for the first time.
3. "if you like your doctor, you will able to keep your doctor" How did that turn out?
That turned out great. Again, the worry was that the government was going to determine who could see which doctor. But which doctor you can see is really determined by negotiations between your doctor and your insurance company. That's the way it has always been and that didn't change.
Pelosi: "We have to pass this bill so that you can find out what's in it"
Pelosi knew what was in the bill. But the American people didn't know how it was all going to turn out until after the bill was passed. Given that Obamacare's popularity is over 50% and rising, the people apparently found out that it was pretty good -- especially compared to before the law and compared to Republican alternatives.
Wait, wait. So you're basing your "argument" on an anecdote? A sample size of one? Seriously?
Oh wait, I get it. You're an ObamaCare supporter who is trying to make Trumpers look stupid, right?
STSBO wrote:
Oh yeah, how much denaro? wrote:#2 YOU'RE LYING! MY FAMILY, WIFE AND 2 KIDS, HAD OUR DEDUCTIBLE GO UP FROM $1900 to $5000!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE DON'T MAKE OVER $100,000 A YEAR.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO CALL ME A LIAR, PONY UP WHAT YOU WANT, I'LL CONTACT THE BROTHERS AND WE'LL HAVE OUR NAMES AND IP'S KNOWN AND I'LL BET YOU THE MOON THAT YOU'RE FULL OF CRAP!!!!!!!
NOW YOU'LL COME UP WITH THE EXCUSES...I SAID MOST, NOT ALL!
OBAMACARE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait, wait. So you're basing your "argument" on an anecdote? A sample size of one? Seriously?
Oh wait, I get it. You're an ObamaCare supporter who is trying to make Trumpers look stupid, right?
He also doesn't know the difference between a deductible and a premium.
Oh yeah, how much denaro? wrote:
#2 YOU'RE LYING! MY FAMILY, WIFE AND 2 KIDS, HAD OUR DEDUCTIBLE GO UP FROM $1900 to $5000!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They don't charge healthy families 5000/mo, so, without the details I'd rather not learn, 0/10.
L L wrote:
I know Congress had no plan that would pass among themselves.
But Trump put the whole thing on his shoulders.
And he did not do his part.
Trump could have co-authored a bill and submitted that.
Trump's team wasn't ever going to author a bill. Ever. Besides, most bills are written by PACs/special interest groups.
Republicans had ~8 years of wailing and moaning and dead health care bills and had NOTHING ready. No tax bill ready either. Fail!
We need about 3.5 more years of the same.
As for the fascists loving Trump, it's exactly right. Some people love to be ruled by fascists, no matter their political preferences. This is not new.
http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htmFat hurts wrote:
Is Trump still taking credit for the stock market? Looks like his sabre-rattling has led to quite a dip.
That dip is Obama's fault, because he didn't do anything to solve North Korea.
DeBron Lames wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:Is Trump still taking credit for the stock market? Looks like his sabre-rattling has led to quite a dip.
That dip is Obama's fault, because he didn't do anything to solve North Korea.
Right. It was Obama's fault that Trump openly talked about nuking another country and spooked the market.
Fat hurts wrote:
DeBron Lames wrote:That dip is Obama's fault, because he didn't do anything to solve North Korea.
Right. It was Obama's fault that Trump openly talked about nuking another country and spooked the market.
Is it bad news? OK, it is either Obama's fault or it is FAKE news. Take your pick, sucka!
MAGA! MAGA!
Obama stepped up and the American people exactly what he wanted from a new healthcare law and delivered.
All Trump did was say it would be great.
He celebrated a House bill and then called it mean.
He asked for a straight repeal and didn't get it.
He asked for skinny repeal and didn't get it.
But he has never told us any details of a new law that he wants implemented.
What a loser.
Wow Trump is so fvcking stupid he doesn't realize he just gave KJ a voice and legitimized NK as a threat. It's a win win for KJ, no escalation = Trump is scared of NK; continued escalation = KJ continues bluffing and gaining influence. NK isn't doing anything different then they've always done, bluff and make empty threats. The difference here is someone powerful is legitimizing his talk and playing his game by responding. The reality is NK doesn't have the capability of launching a missile as far as Guam, let alone hit any target with accuracy. If they did they would have already tested one into the waters for the distance. IF NK were to launch a missile toward Guam, they would only have done that because Trump the far mouth fvck pushed to. We have a dumb dumb a$$hole POTUS.
Fat hurts wrote:
DeBron Lames wrote:That dip is Obama's fault, because he didn't do anything to solve North Korea.
Right. It was Obama's fault that Trump openly talked about nuking another country and spooked the market.
Fat hurts wrote:
DeBron Lames wrote:That dip is Obama's fault, because he didn't do anything to solve North Korea.
Right. It was Obama's fault that Trump openly talked about nuking another country and spooked the market.
If Mien Trump wants to crash the market and my IRA, and start a nuclear war, then I am 100% for it. 👠😄 🇺🇸
Barack Obama stepped up and lied, period. He delivered nothing and admitted that he didn't even know what was in it.
L L wrote:
Obama stepped up and the American people exactly what he wanted from a new healthcare law and delivered.
All Trump did was say it would be great.
He celebrated a House bill and then called it mean.
He asked for a straight repeal and didn't get it.
He asked for skinny repeal and didn't get it.
But he has never told us any details of a new law that he wants implemented.
What a loser.
Yet the ACA, as flawed as it is, still has such strong public support... hmmm what could that mean
UR middle name is stupid wrote:
Barack Obama stepped up and lied, period. He delivered nothing and admitted that he didn't even know what was in it.
L L wrote:Obama stepped up and the American people exactly what he wanted from a new healthcare law and delivered.
All Trump did was say it would be great.
He celebrated a House bill and then called it mean.
He asked for a straight repeal and didn't get it.
He asked for skinny repeal and didn't get it.
But he has never told us any details of a new law that he wants implemented.
What a loser.
Because the general public, like you, are idiots. Does that answer it for ya?
TroLLminator wrote:
Yet the ACA, as flawed as it is, still has such strong public support... hmmm what could that mean
UR middle name is stupid wrote:Barack Obama stepped up and lied, period. He delivered nothing and admitted that he didn't even know what was in it.
UR middle name is stupid wrote:
Barack Obama stepped up and lied, period. He delivered nothing and admitted that he didn't even know what was in it.
That's the job of Congress. What Obama DID do was use his office to get the bill passed into law.. Trump understands none of the issues brought to him.
He's good for siphoning cash out of the government to fill his own pockets though.. watching tv and playing golf also strong contenders for The Dear Leaders best activities.
We can only hope nothing terrible happens as a result of his idiocy.
Good job America.
Whew! The Bible says it's okay wrote:
Conundrum wrote:It's kind of weird how Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump seem to be two sides of the same coin.
Both are very quick and bellicose regarding threats of war, both love military pageantry to honor them, both love over the top praise and adulation, both have weird hair,
And both are crazy
Oh, thank heavens. We checked the Book for the correct answer and our Lord and Savior--Jesus H. Christ--said it's okay to nuke North Korea....
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/09/north-korea-guam-threat-donald-trump-bible-jeffress-kill-kim-jong-unNow that we have The correct Answer to the North Korea "situation" it's all good! Fire away Donald!!!
#MAGA
^This.
Total Bullsh*t! "We don't even know what's in it?" Total Bullsh*t! What's your deductible oh smart one? I'll bet it's $500 or less, but you wouldn't tell the truth anyways.Yes, GREAT job America!
Pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:
UR middle name is stupid wrote:Barack Obama stepped up and lied, period. He delivered nothing and admitted that he didn't even know what was in it.
That's the job of Congress. What Obama DID do was use his office to get the bill passed into law.. Trump understands none of the issues brought to him.
He's good for siphoning cash out of the government to fill his own pockets though.. watching tv and playing golf also strong contenders for The Dear Leaders best activities.
We can only hope nothing terrible happens as a result of his idiocy.
Good job America.