Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Trollminator wrote:

kleenup wrote:

Honestly, at this point if you support Biden you are either an idiot or you want the United States to be embarrassed and in decline. If you are an idiot, it's probably not your fault. Your parents were probably idiots. If you want the United States to be embarrassed and in decline, then I don't know what to say to you. You put not just the US at risk, you put the entire world at risk. But you cannot look at the facts...ALL the facts, of his presidency so far (and before that really) and find any logical or good reason to support him that includes the US being a greater, stronger country. you can't even look at how he acts and what he says and honestly say he's a "good man".

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/569732-biden-brings-the-world-closer-to-nuclear-war

Sally, I can only wish for you to finish drowning quickly in your obsession and hysteria. But not to worry, surely your hero trump will beat him next time! LOLz

Trollminator wrote:

Perch wrote:

You did well here. It’s typical for you to use snark, name calling and condescension when you have nothing intelligent to say and so you did again but at least it was mildly amusing in this case. We both know Biden constantly checking his watch when he’s in an uncomfortable position is a nervous habit but one of us thinks POTUS should be able to control that habit. I’m sure psychologists would be able to tell us why Biden can’t.

So you amused me and gave me a chuckle. Perhaps this will return the favor:

https://img.ifunny.co/images/5402de0c75ba5dab62269d0d7e070be624a052781eef8d06b1e99a5b3af5e125_1.jpg

OMG! He checked his watch! A POTUS that is very busy with lots of problems to solve can't be doing that! Resign now!

Ha mbo wrote:

Lyin’ Biden is incompetent at best. 👎👎👎👎

This admin has been a clown show from the beginning. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

“ President Biden is facing a crisis of confidence in his ability to serve as commander in chief due to the overwhelming negative fallout he is receiving over the botched Afghanistan withdrawal, which left 13 U.S. service members dead and Americans and Afghan allies stranded.

Former defense officials, military leaders and members of Congress on both sides of the aisle have criticized Biden for leaving Americans behind as the last U.S. C-17 plane took off from Kabul Monday night, despite the president's promise weeks ago that "If there are American citizens left, we're going to stay until we get them all out."

Foreign policy experts are also warning that the international credibility of the U.S. has diminished, as both allies and adversaries now view America and the Biden administration as weak and unable to protect its own citizens and crucial partners from the Taliban and terrorist attacks.

In addition, families of the 13 service members killed by an ISIS-K attack near the Kabul airport last Thursday are expressing outrage at Biden for his bungled decisions that directly led to the deaths of their loved ones.

Public confidence in Biden has also diminished due to the Afghanistan withdrawal, according to a CBS News poll released last week, which found that the majority of Americans do not consider Biden to be competent, focused or effective at the job. In addition, the president's overall approval rating dropped to 50%, down from 58% in July, and 74% said the removal of U.S. troops has gone very or somewhat badly.”

Precious Roy wrote:

Biden sucks, but if you actually take a step back and look at the evacuation objectively, it went off about as well as it could have happened under the circumstances. The Taliban could have easily overwhelmed US forces in Kabul and caused a blood bath at the airport, Bagram, the US embassy and other US posts that were the last to evacuate. The Biden admin was able to negotiate with the Taliban for safe passage out of Afghanistan and the Taliban largely upheld their end of the bargain.

Post-occupation Afghanistan is not a lovely place to be and the Taliban are not good guys. But the country is largely at peace for the first time in 20 years and the Taliban is actually trying to negotiate with the few warlords and resistance groups that have declared opposition to the Taliban. Afghanistan descended into a bloody 2-3 year civil war following the pull out of Soviet forces. Given how badly the US screwed up the country over the past 20 years, things could actually be a whole lot worse in Afghanistan than they are now.

Precious Roy wrote:

Ha mbo wrote:

Lyin’ Biden is incompetent at best. 👎👎👎👎

This admin has been a clown show from the beginning. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

“ President Biden is facing a crisis of confidence in his ability to serve as commander in chief due to the overwhelming negative fallout he is receiving over the botched Afghanistan withdrawal, which left 13 U.S. service members dead and Americans and Afghan allies stranded.

Former defense officials, military leaders and members of Congress on both sides of the aisle have criticized Biden for leaving Americans behind as the last U.S. C-17 plane took off from Kabul Monday night, despite the president's promise weeks ago that "If there are American citizens left, we're going to stay until we get them all out."

Foreign policy experts are also warning that the international credibility of the U.S. has diminished, as both allies and adversaries now view America and the Biden administration as weak and unable to protect its own citizens and crucial partners from the Taliban and terrorist attacks.

In addition, families of the 13 service members killed by an ISIS-K attack near the Kabul airport last Thursday are expressing outrage at Biden for his bungled decisions that directly led to the deaths of their loved ones.

Public confidence in Biden has also diminished due to the Afghanistan withdrawal, according to a CBS News poll released last week, which found that the majority of Americans do not consider Biden to be competent, focused or effective at the job. In addition, the president's overall approval rating dropped to 50%, down from 58% in July, and 74% said the removal of U.S. troops has gone very or somewhat badly.”

Biden sucks, but if you actually take a step back and look at the evacuation objectively, it went off about as well as it could have happened under the circumstances. The Taliban could have easily overwhelmed US forces in Kabul and caused a blood bath at the airport, Bagram, the US embassy and other US posts that were the last to evacuate. The Biden admin was able to negotiate with the Taliban for safe passage out of Afghanistan and the Taliban largely upheld their end of the bargain.

Post-occupation Afghanistan is not a lovely place to be and the Taliban are not good guys. But the country is largely at peace for the first time in 20 years and the Taliban is actually trying to negotiate with the few warlords and resistance groups that have declared opposition to the Taliban. Afghanistan descended into a bloody 2-3 year civil war following the pull out of Soviet forces. Given how badly the US screwed up the country over the past 20 years, things could actually be a whole lot worse in Afghanistan than they are now.

Perch wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

Biden sucks, but if you actually take a step back and look at the evacuation objectively, it went off about as well as it could have happened under the circumstances. The Taliban could have easily overwhelmed US forces in Kabul and caused a blood bath at the airport, Bagram, the US embassy and other US posts that were the last to evacuate. The Biden admin was able to negotiate with the Taliban for safe passage out of Afghanistan and the Taliban largely upheld their end of the bargain.

Post-occupation Afghanistan is not a lovely place to be and the Taliban are not good guys. But the country is largely at peace for the first time in 20 years and the Taliban is actually trying to negotiate with the few warlords and resistance groups that have declared opposition to the Taliban. Afghanistan descended into a bloody 2-3 year civil war following the pull out of Soviet forces. Given how badly the US screwed up the country over the past 20 years, things could actually be a whole lot worse in Afghanistan than they are now.

I guess you've missed the reports of the Taliban going door to door and executing people. And executing an Afghan folk singer. And police chief. And Afghan special forces soldiers. And they have vowed to enforce sharia law. Your entire assessment of the withdrawal is inaccurate. Plus there WILL be civil war within a year, probably in less than a month.

Perch wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Yes, I have served on various boards. I know how meetings go.

You can imagine how you think it went, but it's just your imagination. Everything that anyone has said about that meeting confirms that Biden only wanted to wait for more intelligence. He did not say "no" to the raid. The factcheck link you posted confirms that.

Actually everything in that link confirms Biden said NO. You can rationalize it however you want but ZERO people say Biden said yes. You really can’t admit the truth even in the face of overwhelming evidence, can you? Must be sad to be that desperate.

Biden has never said he advised Obama not to go after bin Laden, only that he thought the raid should not be undertaken until they had taken further steps to confirm bin Laden was actually at the compound in Pakistan.

Perch wrote:

nonequals wrote:

That might be too kind to explain it. Another arrogant id****. Apparently, he's saying that we SHOULD have done this:

"Hey Afghanistan, we're going to head out now, but best of luck against the Taliban. We trained and equipped you for 20 years, and we're kinda hoping that you can hold on for a while. OH, shoot, but we ARE going to have to destroy the following military equipment that we gave you before we leave [here you can insert a list that includes all small arms ammunition, or Blackhawks and A-29s, and/or anything in-between]. But again, best of luck with the Taliban. See ya."

And how many presidents would have directed that to happen? Zero (including, notably, the monumentally stupid/incompetent Trump).

And how much justifiable criticism would the US have gotten if we did that and the Afghan military (inevitably but perhaps even more quickly) collapsed? With the obvious argument being that it collapsed/collapsed faster BECAUSE we took away useful stuff.

Nice try. Give it rest.

While you’re name calling, the Pentagon spokesman has been trying to reassure the media that American forces DID disable all equipment being left behind. Whether that’s true or not we’ll never know but apparently SOMEONE approved of the plan. Looks like you should contact Biden about why we destroyed equipment that was meant for Afghani forces. Maybe ease up on the name calling and actually follow the news.