Unknown(?) Local Runner Claiming to be Shooting for US Woman's 10 Mile Road Record

oh jeez wrote:

The guy played us.

Surprised?

Yuck wrote:

I hope the next attempt is at Broad Street. Please contain these people to PA!

Not a good location. The Broad street area is congested making it difficult to both drive and skateboard in the area. It's simple too dangerous. Maybe a solo run at 04:00 when the roads are deserted might be doable, but definitely not during the daytime.

bigtool05 wrote:

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You're comparing one of the best runners in the history of the United States to a bunch of people who accomplished nothing in the sport of running? Lindgren DID set American records.

High school personal records

1500 meters - 3:44.6 (1964)

1-mile (1.6 km) - 4:01.5 (1964) (2nd fastest in history in 1964; #8 all time among American high schoolers as of 2011)

3000 meters - 8:06.3i (1964) High School Record (4th best of all time as of 2011)

2-mile (3.2 km) - 8:40.0i (1964) High School Record (now 2nd all-time indoors)

3 miles (4.8 km) - 13:17.0 (1964) (High School Record)

5000 meters - 13:44.0 (1964) High School Record (2nd All-time American High School time as of 2011)

10000 meters - 29:17.6 (1964) High School Record (5th best all time as of 2011)

College personal records

3 miles (4.8 km) - 12:53.0 (1966) Collegiate and American Record

6 miles (9.7 km) - 27:11.6 (1965) Collegiate and World Record

3000 meters - 7:58 (1965) Collegiate and American Record

5000 meters - 13:33.8 (1968) Collegiate and American Record

10000 meters - 28:40.2 (1967) Collegiate and American Record

NCAA Championships

Cross Country - 1966 (29:01.4), 1967 (30:45.6), 1969 (28:59.2)

3 miles (4.8 km) outdoor track - 1966 (13:33.7), 1967 (13:47.8)

5000 m - 1968 (13:47.2)

6-mile (9.7 km) outdoor track - 1966 (28:07.0), 1967 (28:44.0)

10000 m - 1968 (29:41.0)

2 miles (3.2 km) indoor track - 1966 (8:41.3), 1967 (8:34.7)

bigtool05 wrote:

The whole Jill Greathouse thing and the whole Brian Lawlor thing have both been just so baffling to me. The running community's always had its share of weirdos, odd ducks, serial liars, and cheaters, from Gerry Lindgren, to Rosie Ruiz, to Kip Litton, Mike Rossi and A*ex V*ada. But in all those cases there was at least something discernibly human, something comprehensible hidden behind all the weirdness. But the unrelenting, narcissistic madness of Brian Lawlor and the sheer bizarreness of the Bob Bodkin/Austin Sedicum/Jill Greathouse saga just defy any explanation that I've been able to come up with.

Agree 110%

Gerry Lindgren was a great runner who couldn't resist embellishing with some tall tales.

Rosie Ruiz was a nut who entered marathons to please her boss, badly miscalculated her cheating, and wouldn't come clean.

Kip Litton wanted "fame" as a sub-3 50-stater and cheated more blatantly as it became clearer that it was out of his reach.

Rossi just wanted to run Boston and then boast about it and cheating to qualify was just a means to the end.

A_ V__ is an old-school BSer who wanted notoriety and money for his business as a hybrid athlete/coach and ignorantly made up outrageous times.

But 30 yr old average looking white guy Lawlor claims to be world class or the world record holder (9 sec 100m) in a wide range of events and boasts of being in meets and races that anyone can look up and see he didn't do. Madness.

And the Jill Greathouse episode still has no rational explanation and becomes more irrational the farther they take it.

Crazy. wrote:

It just gets more and more bizarre and surreal.

Who is this woman really.

For once the LR basement trolls have found virtually nothing, come on fellas you can do better than that, there's a reputation to uphold.

Xcguy0988 wrote:

I have a message from Bob saying that Jills son was in a skateboarding accident

Poor kid seems to be accident prone (see bottom left photo), hope he gets better soon and Jill gets the racing shoes back on.

Someone should totally do a thumbs up/thumbs down

on this.

http://www.pennypowerads.com/

the locals know what i'm talking about...

Old tyme prospective wrote:

Haven't you guys seen that Seinfeld episode? "I choose not to race." Jerry was actually really fast, but just didn't want to run. When he was forced to, he won. I think this proves that Jill is the real deal.

I'm gonna head out on Monkey Run and do a bar crawl at Johnny O's, Dino's, Pixel, Dunbar's and close the night at the Chapter House if anyone wants to join.

pumpkin on the clock tower wrote:

Ha.

Close to reality, but not close enough little man.

Getting pretty obvious who started and is continuing this .

Going to do an Arboretum loop from Barton in your honor RJ.

As for WJ, I'll do a Hammond Hill loop.

Habs, right....

Had a beer with Stiener the other day at Mahogany btw.

Hmmm

I bet I ran faster

I just meant he was a weird guy who made a lot of stuff up...

I remember people in this thread saying they would rally if this whole thing turned out to be a sham.

So, why aren't we asking questions and posting things on their page? I say that would be fair. Until they give us answers we shouldn't just give up.

Has anyone else emailed Dr. Sedicum? Email his work - contact him on his foot doctor website. DO WHATEVER YOU CAN

Ahahah 'family emergency' - classic play from the liars' handbook. Elicit sympathy to try to discourage everyone from further investigation. Who would dare continue to ask questions of the poor lass now! Heavens! She's distraught! You monsters!

kid looks okay as of yesterday

is that the face of the future/current american road record holder?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=248875098519031&set=ecnf.100001896285757&type=3&theater

thesadness wrote:

I remember people in this thread saying they would rally if this whole thing turned out to be a sham.

So, why aren't we asking questions and posting things on their page? I say that would be fair. Until they give us answers we shouldn't just give up.

Has anyone else emailed Dr. Sedicum? Email his work - contact him on his foot doctor website. DO WHATEVER YOU CAN

I'm blocked from posting on the Quakertown Rotary page. (or everyone is blocked. Not sure which)

Seriously, I'm not too keen on a couple of conmen knowing my name and email address.

Hobby Ironmanner wrote:

thesadness wrote:

I remember people in this thread saying they would rally if this whole thing turned out to be a sham.

So, why aren't we asking questions and posting things on their page? I say that would be fair. Until they give us answers we shouldn't just give up.

Has anyone else emailed Dr. Sedicum? Email his work - contact him on his foot doctor website. DO WHATEVER YOU CAN

I'm blocked from posting on the Quakertown Rotary page. (or everyone is blocked. Not sure which)

lollin wrote:

Ahahah 'family emergency' - classic play from the liars' handbook. Elicit sympathy to try to discourage everyone from further investigation. Who would dare continue to ask questions of the poor lass now! Heavens! She's distraught! You monsters!

+1000

Manipulative people use this trick all the time. Always a crisis or cancer or something.

Old tyme prospective wrote:

Haven't you guys seen that Seinfeld episode? "I choose not to race." Jerry was actually really fast, but just didn't want to run. When he was forced to, he won. I think this proves that Jill is the real deal.

I'm gonna head out on Monkey Run and do a bar crawl at Johnny O's, Dino's, Pixel, Dunbar's and close the night at the Chapter House if anyone wants to join.

I think this is more like George driving to Hamptons.

asdfdgjdfgrg wrote:

Old tyme prospective wrote:

Haven't you guys seen that Seinfeld episode? "I choose not to race." Jerry was actually really fast, but just didn't want to run. When he was forced to, he won. I think this proves that Jill is the real deal.

I'm gonna head out on Monkey Run and do a bar crawl at Johnny O's, Dino's, Pixel, Dunbar's and close the night at the Chapter House if anyone wants to join.

I think this is more like George driving to Hamptons.

Yep.

No shortcuts wrote:

This...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d-MtW7hbzWk

10 miles too far wrote:

kid looks okay as of yesterday

is that the face of the future/current american road record holder?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=248875098519031&set=ecnf.100001896285757&type=3&theater

Yep, he's made a miraculous recovery and yep that's the infamous Jill.

She still has until June 26 to qualify for the Olympic Trials in the 5000 or 10000. She needs a 15:25 or a 32:25, which should be a walk in the park for her.

I already know the response. "Olympic Trials? No thanks. I've never been interested in making an Olympic team. Not my thing. I just like breaking American Records while on training runs by myself."