People compare Hamas to Nazis. That's not fair. Nazis knew killing Jews was wrong. That's why they did it in secret, mostly in Poland at isolated death camps (Auschwitz, Majdanek, Treblinka, Sobibor, Chelmno, Belzec). At war's end covered over their crimes, burned documents, destroyed gas chambers & denied it after. Hamas is bragging about murdering Jews, posting videos on social media & declaring "Allahu Akbar" If you do not support Israel & the Jews, you are literally worse than the Nazis.
A bit simplistic. But then people do get simplistic during crises.
What exactly does it mean to "support Israel & the Jews?"
Does it mean that one feels bad for them?
That one thinks they are uniformly blameless for the conflict?
That any and every action they take in response to the recent atrocity is absolutely right, just and holy?
As I've said before, I would fully support an action that would put a bullet in the head of every single individual who knowingly and willingly planned, funded or executed the Hamas attack if such action did not also result in the death and suffering of countless thousands of others, not involved. Unfortunately, life is not so simple.
Would you support the Israelis killing every man, woman and child in Gaza? If so, you support essentially infinite evil. If not then, according to you, "you are literally worse than the Nazis."
As I said, your post was a bit simplistic. And there are no simple answers here. At least, none that are correct.
ok skip that last line and then evaluate.
I posted the idea based on how the nazis were somewhat secretive but Hamas/Palestinians were bragging. Not the support issue.
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A bit simplistic. But then people do get simplistic during crises.
What exactly does it mean to "support Israel & the Jews?"
Does it mean that one feels bad for them?
That one thinks they are uniformly blameless for the conflict?
That any and every action they take in response to the recent atrocity is absolutely right, just and holy?
As I've said before, I would fully support an action that would put a bullet in the head of every single individual who knowingly and willingly planned, funded or executed the Hamas attack if such action did not also result in the death and suffering of countless thousands of others, not involved. Unfortunately, life is not so simple.
Would you support the Israelis killing every man, woman and child in Gaza? If so, you support essentially infinite evil. If not then, according to you, "you are literally worse than the Nazis."
As I said, your post was a bit simplistic. And there are no simple answers here. At least, none that are correct.
ok skip that last line and then evaluate.
It was a really poor take. Take ownership of the mistake and don’t simply ask people to skip it.
Hamas’s founding charter bluntly communicates its goals. The charter starts: “Israel . . . will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.”
Thus, Hamas is dedicated to the utter destruction of Israel.
“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them.” ~ Hamas Charter
This is not a war between equivalents. It is a war between a genocidal organization that seeks the blood of innocents, against a democratic people defending its homeland from from Nazi's sympathizers.
You are talking mush, miser. If you actually listen to Jews in America, even Democrat Jews, they will all tell you that they want to destroy Gaza. These are existential events to Jews. They want well-deserved revenge served with great vengeance. Can you blame them? Are Islamics trying to eradicate your entire race from planet earth?
A bit simplistic. But then people do get simplistic during crises.
What exactly does it mean to "support Israel & the Jews?"
Does it mean that one feels bad for them?
That one thinks they are uniformly blameless for the conflict?
That any and every action they take in response to the recent atrocity is absolutely right, just and holy?
As I've said before, I would fully support an action that would put a bullet in the head of every single individual who knowingly and willingly planned, funded or executed the Hamas attack if such action did not also result in the death and suffering of countless thousands of others, not involved. Unfortunately, life is not so simple.
Would you support the Israelis killing every man, woman and child in Gaza? If so, you support essentially infinite evil. If not then, according to you, "you are literally worse than the Nazis."
As I said, your post was a bit simplistic. And there are no simple answers here. At least, none that are correct.
These guys just can’t help themselves. They’re outed every single time.
You got me! I have been outed as an intelligent, thinking being. You, on the other hand . . .
If you actually listen to Jews in America, even Democrat Jews, they will all tell you that they want to destroy Gaza. These are existential events to Jews. They want well-deserved revenge served with great vengeance. Can you blame them?
Oh I get it. Nazis tried to wipe them out and some still exist. As an ally I want to disavow anti-semites locally. Join me brother.
I wonder how many were feds or undercover Democrat operatives.
the Lincoln Project (completely cucked 'anti-Trump republicans' - basically progressive Democrats) hired people* to stand with tiki torches in front of a Youngkin campaign bus in Virginia in 2021. I'd be completely shocked if multiple weren't in that crowd.
A bit simplistic. But then people do get simplistic during crises.
What exactly does it mean to "support Israel & the Jews?"
Does it mean that one feels bad for them?
That one thinks they are uniformly blameless for the conflict?
That any and every action they take in response to the recent atrocity is absolutely right, just and holy?
As I've said before, I would fully support an action that would put a bullet in the head of every single individual who knowingly and willingly planned, funded or executed the Hamas attack if such action did not also result in the death and suffering of countless thousands of others, not involved. Unfortunately, life is not so simple.
Would you support the Israelis killing every man, woman and child in Gaza? If so, you support essentially infinite evil. If not then, according to you, "you are literally worse than the Nazis."
As I said, your post was a bit simplistic. And there are no simple answers here. At least, none that are correct.
ok skip that last line and then evaluate.
I posted the idea based on how the nazis were somewhat secretive but Hamas/Palestinians were bragging. Not the support issue.
a bit apples to oranges of course...
OK, yes, in this aspect (hiding their actions vs being proud of them) these Hamas folks are worse than the Nazis. On the other hand, they have more legitimate reason for their hatred of Jews.
Not that any level justifies what they just did - simply pointing out that the German Nazis hated and massacred Jews with far less of a legitimate grievance than the Palestinians.
It's complicated. And the Israeli response will be "justified" (as if "justice" somehow applies to any child being slaughtered by anyone). But it is complicated - with no correct answer.
You are talking mush, miser. If you actually listen to Jews in America, even Democrat Jews, they will all tell you that they want to destroy Gaza. These are existential events to Jews. They want well-deserved revenge served with great vengeance. Can you blame them? Are Islamics trying to eradicate your entire race from planet earth?
Incorrect, most American "jews" are secular and don't identify with those issues in Israel, which they don't see as their home. Hence those poll results. You are nuts.
I posted the idea based on how the nazis were somewhat secretive but Hamas/Palestinians were bragging. Not the support issue.
a bit apples to oranges of course...
OK, yes, in this aspect (hiding their actions vs being proud of them) these Hamas folks are worse than the Nazis. On the other hand, they have more legitimate reason for their hatred of Jews.
Not that any level justifies what they just did - simply pointing out that the German Nazis hated and massacred Jews with far less of a legitimate grievance than the Palestinians.
It's complicated. And the Israeli response will be "justified" (as if "justice" somehow applies to any child being slaughtered by anyone). But it is complicated - with no correct answer.
well in the end that old moral calculus is useful:
if the palestinians could do whatever they wanted, they'd kill all the jews in israel or drive them out and take the land.
if the israelis could do whatever they wanted, they'd just leave the palestinians to gaza and the west bank and leave it there.
not all that helpful to keep going back generations to determine rights and wrongs...just go with the facts on the ground.
OK, yes, in this aspect (hiding their actions vs being proud of them) these Hamas folks are worse than the Nazis. On the other hand, they have more legitimate reason for their hatred of Jews.
Not that any level justifies what they just did - simply pointing out that the German Nazis hated and massacred Jews with far less of a legitimate grievance than the Palestinians.
It's complicated. And the Israeli response will be "justified" (as if "justice" somehow applies to any child being slaughtered by anyone). But it is complicated - with no correct answer.
well in the end that old moral calculus is useful:
if the palestinians could do whatever they wanted, they'd kill all the jews in israel or drive them out and take the land.
if the israelis could do whatever they wanted, they'd just leave the palestinians to gaza and the west bank and leave it there.
not all that helpful to keep going back generations to determine rights and wrongs...just go with the facts on the ground.
OK, yes, in this aspect (hiding their actions vs being proud of them) these Hamas folks are worse than the Nazis. On the other hand, they have more legitimate reason for their hatred of Jews.
Not that any level justifies what they just did - simply pointing out that the German Nazis hated and massacred Jews with far less of a legitimate grievance than the Palestinians.
It's complicated. And the Israeli response will be "justified" (as if "justice" somehow applies to any child being slaughtered by anyone). But it is complicated - with no correct answer.
if the israelis could do whatever they wanted, they'd just leave the palestinians to gaza and the west bank and leave it there.
Stop embarrassing yourself. Israel has continued to expand its borders and annex more land right up to today.
If you actually listen to Jews in America, even Democrat Jews, they will all tell you that they want to destroy Gaza. These are existential events to Jews. They want well-deserved revenge served with great vengeance. Can you blame them?
Oh I get it. Nazis tried to wipe them out and some still exist. As an ally I want to disavow anti-semites locally. Join me brother.
Punch Richard Spencer.
Ciro, you live in Ireland, so Richard Spencer isn't local.
Curious what you, or the character you're pretending to be online, thinks of Hamas?
