AT THESWOOSH wrote:
Stravazzi, it appears you have lost this conversation and positioning. You have no advocates or allies, but thank you for sharing on LRC.
Next.
Wrong.
For more information please re-read the thread.
AT THESWOOSH wrote:
Stravazzi, it appears you have lost this conversation and positioning. You have no advocates or allies, but thank you for sharing on LRC.
Next.
Wrong.
For more information please re-read the thread.
Way up northerner wrote:
Way up northerner wrote:
Serious question. Do you think it was wrong of my college teammate and I to run the local 4 mile road race in Boulder, when we were out their training? Was it wrong of the local runner to be upset that he didn't win for the third year in a row? Because these seemed to be very similar scenarios..
Look, I had two misspellings within three sentences, Now I feel like a "moran".
You must be new here. It's one of the several words we spell incorrectly on purpose.
https://www.cubsinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/morans1-e1435205247281-720x340.jpgWay up northerner wrote:
Way up northerner wrote:
Serious question. Do you think it was wrong of my college teammate and I to run the local 4 mile road race in Boulder, when we were out their training? Was it wrong of the local runner to be upset that he didn't win for the third year in a row? Because these seemed to be very similar scenarios..
Look, I had two misspellings within three sentences, Now I feel like a "moran".
Wrong numbnuts - Moran wasn't misspelt.
Ironic really, I was complaining about people jumping into a set they don't really belong to / aren't really a part of for some small self-gratification and here you are having done the same thing without even understanding it ?
In all honesty I love your amazing Boulder story! It's fantastic, yet absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about - in fact if you'd actually read through this thread you'd see I discussed this very scenario earlier. But I think it's amazing "crushing" some small town dude in some insignificant race gave you and your buddy the "competitive outlet" you needed. I hope everyone on the circuit was equally thrilled by this Golliath slaying tale when you regaled your "elite" friends with it.
zzzz wrote:
You must be new here. It's one of the several words we spell incorrectly on purpose.
https://www.cubsinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/morans1-e1435205247281-720x340.jpg
I am not new here, but haven’t really been active for awhile, so if this is true about incorrectly spelling words on purpose, then I stand corrected and I thank you for pointing that out.
As for the OP of this thread, I need to be done trying to reason with someone who can’t be reasoned with. He will continue to be insecure and angry when better runners than him rain on his ego parade. I see people like him all the time, like the local Boulder runner I mentioned, but it really is a sad situation and I do feel sorry for him to a certain point. I do think someday he will grow up a bit and realize how immature he is being. For now, I guess he can just keep crying about the injustices of the world that this pandemic created for him. Yes, people are dying and losing their jobs, but gosh darn it, he had his Strava segment records “stolen” from him by those egomaniacal sub-elite runners and that is what makes this pandemic as serious as it is.
0/10. Lacks any creativity or wit.
Good luck to you too buddy ?
There literally is no reasoning because we quite clearly have diametrically opposed views (although whether you even understand my view is open to debate, as I've questioned before - would you be happy if a bloke decided he was going to partake in women's athletics and go "crush" their records? Would that make him more of a man? Sate his ego in some way? I don't know...).
All the best to you - hope you go get some Strava segment CRs if taking them from lower level hobbyjoggers who've competed for them for years gets your "competitive" juices going. Hopefully this will all blow over soon and you can get yourself back up to Boulder with your good "friend" and smash that guy again by two minutes - strictly for competitive purposes of course!
Maybe when you crush him again he'll pound his fist into a table in frustration and vow to train his brains out and pound you real men into the ground (metaphorically only!!) next year.
For those that find hunting Strava KOMs sad : it’s all about perspective isn’t it ?
If you win a local race and it is important to you : great. For a state champion it will look non-important.
If you become state or city champion, it will still look as small stuff for a national champion. And so on...
Unless it’s full of Olympic champions here, you are not entitled to find hunting Strava KOMs as ‘sad’...
Stravazzi wrote:
It's not about me per se. It's about thoae previously non intersecting venn diagram sets and all the people who will have their enjoyment taken for the short term fix of sub-standard guys who really should be better than that.
I'm simply looking at the bigger picture.
So answer this....If the "sub-standard" athlete breaks all your 1/2mile CRs on a continuous 20mile run is it petty for you to go try and run a half a mile segment all out at one time?
Please realize that you should simply bow down to greatness when you see it and stop whining. The "sub-standard" guys have flexed on your half mile segments for years in BIG workouts and just never uploaded their watches. They just now need a way to promote themselves...
CallMeKing wrote:
The "sub-standard" guys have flexed on your half mile segments for years in BIG workouts and just never uploaded their watches. They just now need a way to promote themselves...
You are no doubt 100% correct on that. I actually said this way back on the first page of the thread, which I'm sure you read already but anyway here it is again:-
They well may be runners too but they are competing, or not as per the current situation, at a different level altogether. And as I've said elsewhere, the fact is they've probably already ran over these route hundreds of times "breaking" the Segment records!
The difference is that they've always done so as a privately marked activity because they don't want competitors to see their current level. Now however in this competitive vacuum, they're simply looking for ego strokes (Actually, it's kind of pathetic - I'd guess anyone aiming for the top who does feel the need to do this is never going to make it for real).
Stravazzi - plz post a link to your strava profile so I can take the rest of your CRs. Stop whining and worry about something real.
Stravazzi wrote:
I consider this hugely unethical...Strava should lock down all leaderboards for the duration of this so called virus in order to protect the sport at this level.
So you're upset that faster runners are, in fact, faster.
CRs were built to show who has run the fastest on any stretch on earth, and to motivate people to get out there and run faster. If this is motivating elite runners, more power to them. There is nothing wrong with this. As a collegiate runner, it's fun to go segment hunting every once in a while (once, maybe twice a year?). I remember when I planned a long run where, if done correctly, I could grab 14 CRs. Ended up getting 13, but it was one of the most fun, challenging long runs I had that year.
Where do you like to run? I need some new segments to chase...
irunfastXC wrote:
So you're upset that faster runners are, in fact, faster.
No. I have repeatedly stated this is not the case. For more information please re-read the thread.
CRs were built to show who has run the fastest on any stretch on earth, and to motivate people to get out there and run faster. If this is motivating elite runners, more power to them. There is nothing wrong with this.
Exactly, that's what these were for and being used for - by the Strava community. The fact is though that these have never motivated any elite runners before, so if taking a segment CR from a hobbiest runner so they can show up at the top of a list they previously had no interest in, is now motivating them then something has clearly gone wrong and their coach probably needs to have a word with them. In fact maybe they got cut and don't even have a coach anymore hence the requirement for minor league ego stroking...
As a collegiate runner, it's fun to go segment hunting every once in a while (once, maybe twice a year?). I remember when I planned a long run where, if done correctly, I could grab 14 CRs. Ended up getting 13, but it was one of the most fun, challenging long runs I had that year.
Cool if that gave you some thrill. And also cool if that still does but the fact that you've always done that means you're not part of the problem I've been discussing, which to be very clear is about people, who haven't previously, doing this now during the COVID-19 crisis.
way up northener wrote:
zzzz wrote:
You must be new here. It's one of the several words we spell incorrectly on purpose.
https://www.cubsinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/morans1-e1435205247281-720x340.jpgI am not new here, but haven’t really been active for awhile, so if this is true about incorrectly spelling words on purpose, then I stand corrected and I thank you for pointing that out.
As for the OP of this thread, I need to be done trying to reason with someone who can’t be reasoned with. He will continue to be insecure and angry when better runners than him rain on his ego parade. I see people like him all the time, like the local Boulder runner I mentioned, but it really is a sad situation and I do feel sorry for him to a certain point. I do think someday he will grow up a bit and realize how immature he is being. For now, I guess he can just keep crying about the injustices of the world that this pandemic created for him. Yes, people are dying and losing their jobs, but gosh darn it, he had his Strava segment records “stolen” from him by those egomaniacal sub-elite runners and that is what makes this pandemic as serious as it is.
You’re being trolled. Guess up North they don’t have trolls.
I'm a pro runner and part of the Strava community. Realize that all pros are amateur unless you are Kipchoge.
By the way StravaNazi, how is your argument working with Strava? Have they agreed to lock down leaderboards?
Stravazzi wrote:
Maybe when you crush him again he'll pound his fist into a table in frustration and vow to train his brains out and pound you real men into the ground (metaphorically only!!) next year.
Oh come on guys, this is an old school troll.
Quite funny though, loads of angry people.
Strava is stupid to begin with.
Only losers and millennials use it. The same losers that will do virtual races.
