Strava MUST lock down Segment Leaderboards during COVID-19 for Sporting Integrity

They are better and thus deserve to have those CR. This is far better than all of the segments that I've seen with CR holders that are clearly very slow and biked the segment. Strava makes it too difficult to report these on the app there should simply be a button right on the activity to report.

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

They are better and thus deserve to have those CR. This is far better than all of the segments that I've seen with CR holders that are clearly very slow and biked the segment. Strava makes it too difficult to report these on the app there should simply be a button right on the activity to report.

I think it's easy enough to flag these activities. Certainly on the website anyway. And I believe they've made some improvements recently to automatically flag some of these unrealistic activities, i.e. if it's clearly too fast to have been run.

But no, I don't think these guys deserve the ego stroke of these CRs. It's just not their competitive field and they are undeservedly stealing these. I mean the Olympics have been cancelled, so the world's best distance runners have nothing on - should these guys be dropping to state or local meets and tanking the competition at sub levels? The Strava business is equally stupid as that.

It's freaking Strava! Who's the bigger loser: the elite that needs to stroke his own ego chasing segment records or the hobby jogger pissed off that his precious segment record got broken by a superior athlete? Good lord! Now running is as bankrupt as cycling.

They are runners too. If you can beat the CR you deserve to have it. And yes it is easy on the website but not on the app. I don't think it can be flagged at all on the app. Coronavirus has given me a lot of time to expose some bogus course records.

Stravazzi wrote:

I consider this hugely unethical, petty behaviour from these guys who really should be above this kind of activity.

This statement is the mission statement of Strava.

Stravazzi wrote:

But no, I don't think these guys deserve the ego stroke of these CRs. It's just not their competitive field and they are undeservedly stealing these. I mean the Olympics have been cancelled, so the world's best distance runners have nothing on - should these guys be dropping to state or local meets and tanking the competition at sub levels? The Strava business is equally stupid as that.

i think they deserve it. if you don't like it, you ought to get faster or cheat better.

fwiw, i don't like or use strava. however, if a top athlete wants the CRs, then i think he or she has earned it and is allowed to stroke his/her ego as much as possible. in fact, i encourage it. it'd be great to hear someone report back that someone has dominated their region, lol.

ShilohDoesntCare wrote:

They are runners too. If you can beat the CR you deserve to have it. And yes it is easy on the website but not on the app. I don't think it can be flagged at all on the app. Coronavirus has given me a lot of time to expose some bogus course records.

They well may be runners too but they are competing, or not as per the current situation, at a different level altogether. And as I've said elsewhere, the fact is they've probably already ran over these route hundreds of times "breaking" the Segment records!

The difference is that they've always done so as a privately marked activity because they don't want competitors to see their current level. Now however in this competitive vacuum, they're simply looking for ego strokes (Actually, it's kind of pathetic - I'd guess anyone aiming for the top who does feel the need to do this is never going to make it for real).

That is what makes it completely unethical, sad and destructive to the real Strava community at a time when the last thing people need is further disappointment.

#locktheleaderboards

Strava community is a joke and very few elite use it. A random Kenyan would wipe off all of those CR/KOM in a breeze so who cares those leaderboards.

Interesting topic that I enjoy following. In 2018 Dave Proctor tried to set a dubious trans-Canada record using strava, claiming it was impossible to cheat!

We know a lot more now on this subject.

It sucks, but don’t bother flagging them, because they haven’t cheated.

I think it’s pretty cool to have elites setting records. It’s eye opening and motivating.

Strava is simply for fun anyway.

Using Strava for KOM is like using Twitter for meetups / status updates. Yeah, you can do it, but the app outgrew that function long ago and in the grander scheme of things, the app makers don't care about it anymore or at least deprioritize it. Strava wants to be THE social media app for run/bike/swim, and surely recognizes that 99% of their users will never land a KOM. In time, I suspect the social networking aspect will erode the app's historical transparency and things like segments / CR will probably only be viewed through club / follower filters like a standard FB / IG app.

You are a baby.

All that you are saying is that you don't want anyone faster than you to be allowed to run in the same places that you have run. Get over it, you toddler.

If this is hugely unethical to you, then your mind is living in a messed up world and I would want to take any ethical advice from you about any issue, much less something that is actually meaningful.

You missed by a couple of days... better luck next year.

I find the SR's from the bikes annoying. No one is running a 2:21 mile.

I think it would be cool if an elite would hold some of the segment records by me.

Ego losers wrote:

Strava community is a joke and very few elite use it. A random Kenyan would wipe off all of those CR/KOM in a breeze so who cares those leaderboards.

You're wrong there.

Not just on the first claim either.

I was looking at a leaderboard the other day and Bernard Lagat was on it (under a different name).

And he wasn't at the top.

Are they running the segment faster than you?

It sounds like they have the segment record.

Nutsack McGee wrote:

You are a baby.

All that you are saying is that you don't want anyone faster than you to be allowed to run in the same places that you have run. Get over it, you toddler.

If this is hugely unethical to you, then your mind is living in a messed up world and I would want to take any ethical advice from you about any issue, much less something that is actually meaningful.

Well of course that is what I am saying - from a certain point of view - and of course I can only be saying having been a victim of the practice but that is precisely why posted the OP.

And if you have actually read what I've said and are disputing the ethics of it, then I would very much worry about what you do find unethical. As I have said these guys could have taken CRs countless times over many years but they haven't because (like some people have quipped on here) they probably thought it was beneath them. Now they are doing so for sad little ego strokes given solid spring road / track performances are out the window.

I've had a great deal of fun over many years on Strava battling other local guys for quarter / half mile sprint segments and various hill KoM segments and it's been a lot of fun, often involving back and forth good natured battles between maybe club level-ish guys, giving kudos and good will comments to each other. And now not because of superior performance (the key ethical issue, as they always had that) but because of the virus, those times are being stolen. That is why the leaderboards should be locked.

If these guys want to come back and take these CRs once the virus has blown over then fair play to them. But the point is they won't.

maybe you should just get off strava?

it's essentially just instagram with a different application (i.e., geared towards vain athletes as opposed to the vain general public).