swiftheartrabbit wrote:
dude learn how to spell "moron."
we'll let it slide, as you obviously must be new around here.
swiftheartrabbit wrote:
dude learn how to spell "moron."
we'll let it slide, as you obviously must be new around here.
I like how (sarcasm) that for the LRC quote of the day, instead of including information and what his experience having the disease was, they just included the part where he praises LRC. Really?
still here? wrote:
timetells wrote:
Number of tests matter!
Maybe it doesn't matter when somebody has cough/SOB and fever (with exeptions).
But a majority of cases are mild, with many of them having just a sore throat or even nothing. Should all people now self quarantine, because they could be infected?
Only with enough tests you can take the right measures in the right dosage.
The right dosage of what? As other posters have noted, there is no identified cure or therapy at the moment. Need just to isolate to prevent spread, and let the bug run it’s course. I don’t see the benefit of testing at that stage (exhibiting symptoms), as a positive result shouldn’t really have any bearing on what you should do
Very encouraging data with remidesivir (developed for Ebola virus, good action against SARS/MERS). An ICU doc in Washington sent an e mail out to other docs (wound up in my inbox from a doc in my center) reporting excellent recovery in 1 - 3 days. It’s still in trials with Gilead though I think they are trying to make it more available.
In this article you will read that Gilead applied for a Chinese patent for the use of Remdesivir to treat Coronavirus in 2016. It still isn't approved. Meanwhile, "a team of Chinese scientists say they’ve improved and targeted its use — and, in a startling move, have also filed for a patent." But there's more "in a surprising twist to the story, ...a Chinese drug company announced it has copied the Gilead drug and is successfully mass producing its own generic version."
Meanwhile the 50 Cent Army covers the tracks of the CCP.
As of March 9, South Korea with a population of 51 million, tested 210,000 for the Wuhan virus - or about 0.4% of the population. They have been touted as the vanguard of rapid testing.
But what did this small slice of population testing really do to reduce the spread in Korea? Probably nothing. Obviously, they would not have identified any of the other 99.6% of their population that may have been infected.
Quickly closing borders from infected countries and calling for social distancing was the only thing that might influence the trajectory of the virus. The number of fatalities will also depend on the health care system and the ability to rapidly administer advanced medicines in the short term. European countries like Italy are learning about what socialized health care does to the fatality rate of elders.
More testing may help countries understand that the real numbers of fatalities are much lower than previously reported because many have minor symptoms and it could help to understand the nature of the virus, but it had no value in stopping the spread of the virus.
Developing tests to verify that you have defeated the Wuhan virus may allow people to go back to work sooner. These tests may be available in the short term and are important.
We have a number of drugs currently being used for other applications that show the ability to mitigate the severity of the Wuhan virus and significantly reduce fatalities and should be approved by the FDA as soon as possible for critical cases.
It will be interesting to see how the typical seasonal flu virus versus the Wuhan virus will compare in the US and other countries based on fatalities this year.
The vaccination for the Wuhan virus is probably a year away. But given that your seasonal flu vaccination can sometimes only be 40% effective, who knows.
Prozac666 wrote:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/02/13/coronavirus-the-global-race-to-patent-a-remedy/In this article you will read that Gilead applied for a Chinese patent for the use of Remdesivir to treat Coronavirus in 2016. It still isn't approved. Meanwhile, "a team of Chinese scientists say they’ve improved and targeted its use — and, in a startling move, have also filed for a patent." But there's more "in a surprising twist to the story, ...a Chinese drug company announced it has copied the Gilead drug and is successfully mass producing its own generic version."
Meanwhile the 50 Cent Army covers the tracks of the CCP.
Wow, so this virus has been known back then? OR @ least a different version of it? If so then who came up w/ the first patent to treat it? Or why Gilead try to patent the Chinese use of Remdesivir back in 2016? And how did the Chinese copy Gilead’s drug to the point they are mass producing it’s own genetic version? Please provide your resources. Very confusing...and yet fascinating ??
the story is simple:
If there tests prepared and we would have done many more testing, people would now if the they are infected. This would allow much better planning an caution steps with people who are infected.
Most important: many of us would have gone back to work much earlier as planning would have been easier to control the diffusion.
Conclusion: Trump with his actions has led to millions of unemployed people.
So you expected the USA to test 330 Milllion people to determine who was infected and then make what different decision? Even if you tested the entire population early, would you have a different/positive one week later.
Check out how many test were done in South Korea -0.4% of the population, how did that change there decision on how to proceed.
You are an idiot.
RealityWuhan wrote:
So you expected the USA to test 330 Milllion people to determine who was infected and then make what different decision? Even if you tested the entire population early, would you have a different/positive one week later.
Check out how many test were done in South Korea -0.4% of the population, how did that change there decision on how to proceed.
You are an idiot.
Read this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-we-still-need-to-test-widely-for-coronavirus/amp/RealityWuhan wrote:
So you expected the USA to test 330 Milllion people to determine who was infected and then make what different decision? Even if you tested the entire population early, would you have a different/positive one week later.
Check out how many test were done in South Korea -0.4% of the population, how did that change there decision on how to proceed.
You are an idiot.
Read this, moron:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-we-still-need-to-test-widely-for-coronavirus/amp/still here? wrote:
timetells wrote:
Number of tests matter!
Maybe it doesn't matter when somebody has cough/SOB and fever (with exeptions).
But a majority of cases are mild, with many of them having just a sore throat or even nothing. Should all people now self quarantine, because they could be infected?
Only with enough tests you can take the right measures in the right dosage.
The right dosage of what? As other posters have noted, there is no identified cure or therapy at the moment. Need just to isolate to prevent spread, and let the bug run it’s course. I don’t see the benefit of testing at that stage (exhibiting symptoms), as a positive result shouldn’t really have any bearing on what you should do
Must be a troll; nobody could be so stupid. Well, except I guess the demented turnip theoretically running the country.
Ok, for the really dumb, here's why testing helps:
If you test and you're not infected, you can go back to work -- if you're in health care, or emergency services, this is especially helpful.
If you test and you're infected, ISOLATE!!
As of March 9, no European country has tested more than 0.08% of their population. As of March 9, the maximum Asian country testing (South Korea) was less than 0.4% of population.
If China had tested their 1,.5 billion population in December, the world might not have this problem. If Italy and Europe had closed its borders to China sooner and tested their population sooner, perhaps the US might not have this problem.
You can directly trace this infection from China to the US, and from China to Europe to the US. Failures in the Chinese and the EU countries to contain this virus is very clear.
cool story bro.
The sad thing is that the US tax payer will now have to pay for the failures in the Chinese communist policy/health system, the EU lack of border control, culture norms and public health & policy systems.
cool story bro.
Trump failed to protect us. Asshat.
Trump even let South Americans with Coronavirus into our country.
What a pr!ck.
Any update on the guy today?
I meant the guy who shared his story on having coronavirus.