The axe man wrote:
how we got here wrote:
Just pointing out amusement at the fact that right-wingers often obliviously quote Orwell thinking he would support their views.
where else do you see me complaining about right-wingers?
You complain about right wingers all day, every day, every time you log on, and you don't hide it very well.
LOL, now who's seeing things everywhere they look?
must be tired and miserable to be you
how we got here wrote:
Coevett wrote:
blah blah blah blah ramble ramble ramble
(hey here's a meme of almost no relevance!)
Orwell was very clearly a democratic socialist.
Yes, one of the last.
how we got here wrote:
(hey here's a meme of almost no relevance!)
Orwell was very clearly a democratic socialist.
It's a meme of very relevant importance you middle-class posing buffoon.
It's the reason why Trump got elected by the Working Class, and why the Working Class voted for Brexit in the UK and just elected an Easton toff Conservative to deliver it.
And you'll never learn, because you're too busy screaming racist and transphobic at white, working class people on Twitter.
*Eaton toff
**Eton toff, lol - even trying to type the term triggers me, brings back painful memories from philosophy tutorials when the Eton Marxist posers sitting next to me would mock my working class accent at not being able to pronounce concepts such as 'dialectical materialism'.
Coevett wrote:
how we got here wrote:
Orwell was very clearly a democratic socialist.
Yes, one of the last.
.....and democratic socialists are very cleary Left-wing. Even acknowledging how much the Left and Right common usage has changed overtime, he's still much further from the modern Right than the modern Left.
Coevett wrote:
how we got here wrote:
(hey here's a meme of almost no relevance!)
Orwell was very clearly a democratic socialist.
It's a meme of very relevant importance you middle-class posing buffoon.
It's the reason why Trump got elected by the Working Class, and why the Working Class voted for Brexit in the UK and just elected an Easton toff Conservative to deliver it.
And you'll never learn, because you're too busy screaming racist and transphobic at white, working class people on Twitter.
The topic of our discussion was whether or not Orwell was a Leftist. Your meme is not very relevant to the discussion.
Coevett wrote:
how we got here wrote:
I love it when right-wingers try to back up their views by quoting leftists.
LOL, you need to read a biography of George Orwell. He was about as far away from a modern 'lefty' as you could get. 1984 was an attack on the Soviet Communist Party, as well as its middle-class, suburban 'lefty' supporters in the UK and elsewhere. Orwell was drawing on his experience of actually fighting in the Spanish Civil War against real fascists, and his painful discovery that the communists he was fighting with were as bad as the fascists.
Yes, Orwell actually risked his life fighting real fascists. Not engaging in triggered witchhunts against 'right-wingers' on Twitter for mentioning immigration or mis-gendering a pansexual transsexual.
In fact, although he was shot by fascists and almost mortally wounded (and left permanently disabled and likely hastend his premature death), he actually came closest to dying in the Spanish Civil War through narrowly escaping arrest by the communists (who felt the 'communist' faction he was fighting with weren't 'pure' enough, and were rounding them up and summarily executing them without trial).
The terms 'lefty', 'liberal', 'rightwinger' today have little or no relation to what they had in Orwell's day, and it's due to 'the Left' and a process which he observed the beginnings of and wrote so eloquently and yet chillingly on the possible ultimate consequences of on society.
https://twitter.com/jamiegcross/status/1133115794638950400
Great post.
Clown World Resident wrote:
Great post.
in what way?
it doesn't refute that Orwell was a leftist at all.
wish that outsideness called out LR, now that would be an ambitious crossover
I haven't looked at Outsideonline in probably a good 15 years and closer to 18. I just went there for the articles on alpine climbing, primarily in the Himalayas but elsewhere too. Back then it was decent. No idea what it's like today.
I have been following this site from its beginning and I have learned two things:
1.). Nothing wrong with discourse and if you can’t control your urge to be a fuel to the flame, then don’t participate.
2.). The increase of posting of non-running related threads and significant trolling began around late ‘07/ early ‘08. It wan’t always this way, the newer generation likes to constantly seek controversy.
If you don’t like it don’t buy it. This site is free anyway. Be accountable to your own posts and move on from the things that trigger you.
Cleveland browns head coach wrote:
Yeah, if you ignore all the running posts and cherry pick troll threads that will obviously anger you, then that's entirely your problem. Idiots. I also like how they back up their claims of racism and misogyny with a single quote. On a site with millions of threads.
They make a strawman argument. Letsrun is the only legit messageboard for serious runners, of course its also going to be the most controversial. You could also call it the most insightful, the most intense, the most friendly, the most community oriented, etc. - everything that could possibly go along with being the only active running messageboard on the net not tailored to beginners.