High school athlete disqualified at cross-country meet for wearing hijab

you are not even allowed to wear a rolled up handkerchief on your head. T&F/xc have always had a lot of uniform rules. It is no different than private schools having rules about attire. Maybe they just don't want the meets turning into fashion shows.

There really is no great reason for all the uniform rules. But they've always been there. People have always dealt with it. Who cares.

Spot. on.

I'm as liberal as it gets and this grinds my gears. I have friends who fought to leave behind the oppression of having to wear a veil, being ruled over by their male relatives etc.

high school xc coach wrote:

you are not even allowed to wear a rolled up handkerchief on your head. T&F/xc have always had a lot of uniform rules. It is no different than private schools having rules about attire. Maybe they just don't want the meets turning into fashion shows.

There really is no great reason for all the uniform rules. But they've always been there. People have always dealt with it. Who cares.

Maybe in the US. Not in the UK.

exrunner wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

you are not even allowed to wear a rolled up handkerchief on your head. T&F/xc have always had a lot of uniform rules. It is no different than private schools having rules about attire. Maybe they just don't want the meets turning into fashion shows.

There really is no great reason for all the uniform rules. But they've always been there. People have always dealt with it. Who cares.

Maybe in the US. Not in the UK.

sure. every country and every organization has it's own different set of rules and regulations.

whatever you are doing in the UK has absolutely nothing to do with the way things are done here.

I’ll be impressed if this is a subtle jab at the Little Sisters of the Poor.

krispy kremlin._._._. wrote:

Hijabs should not be allowed in high school xc.

If an entire team wore hijabs, the girls running against them wouldn't be able to tell who's who and, in a team competition like hs xc, this would be an advantage.

Unlike other religious items, a hijab, to great degree, masks the identity of a runner from behind.

Unlike track, the pace and rhythm of an xc race is frequently set by those around/ahead of you. In large hs xc meets, runners are always squaring up against the guys/gals theyve seen and raced against at dual/league meets. Runners with hijabs distort this element of the sport.

Sure, this is one girl (and maybe a few dozen total in the US in hs xc),I'm just saying.

Except she was the only one wearing one making her MORE identifiable. The fact you mention this would only apply to a few dozen total runners in the US means this is not a valid justification for the rule.

Rules say you need a waiver. She’s not special, DQ stands, get your paperwork in coach and stop with the political agenda. No head gear!

high school xc coach wrote:

exrunner wrote:

Maybe in the US. Not in the UK.

sure. every country and every organization has it's own different set of rules and regulations.

whatever you are doing in the UK has absolutely nothing to do with the way things are done here.

The international sport doesn’t have any of these restrictions.

The fact that the US makes up random rules about high school runners not being allowed to wear t-shirts or hats is actually just comical.

exrunner wrote:

open your mind to new thoughts wrote:

you are correct and we are right to discriminate

the tenants of Islam (as practiced on planet earth) are not compatible with the values of the USA

educate yourself

You really should open your mind.

How can you believe a country is free if it bans ideas and culture?

You only support the specific actions here because you don’t agree with Islam. But when the precedent is set that the ‘land of the free’ decides who is free and who is not, it’s only a matter of time before things you believe in are discriminated against and banned.

Freedom isn’t given it’s taken, and by exercising freedoms it is maintained.

Your perception of reality is way off.

In America we are not free to do whatever we want. Look at our systems of laws and codes. We are highly regulated. There are laws and codes for just about everything.

Are you free to choose for yourself to bake a cake for a homosexual wedding or not if you own your own bakery?

One is not free to commit treason, even if your values are in conflict with official govt. policy.

Europe is not Europe anymore because they opened the door to Islam in the name of stupid ideals while ignoring reality, common sense, facts, etc. We do not want to do the same. But maybe you like honor killings. I don’t know.

If she was a white girl wearing the very same hat at a ski resort i don't think it would even be interpreted to be a hijab or related to religion at all.

But the rules clearly state you can only wear a blue watch cap for a hat.

She can run with me dressed like that. I'm honestly more tired of seeing the nike swoosh on everything. I might ask her to put some tape over the swoosh.

exrunner wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

sure. every country and every organization has it's own different set of rules and regulations.

whatever you are doing in the UK has absolutely nothing to do with the way things are done here.

The international sport doesn’t have any of these restrictions.

The fact that the US makes up random rules about high school runners not being allowed to wear t-shirts or hats is actually just comical.

FIBA doesn't dictate the NBAs rules either. get outta here with this globalist crap. I'm not even in favor of these rules, but to say that some international organization should dictate to everybody else is just ridiculous.

bleu wrote:

Rules say you need a waiver. She’s not special, DQ stands, get your paperwork in coach and stop with the political agenda. No head gear!

"I'm no racist, but she deserved to be banned! The rules are the rules! She should have definitely combed the rule book to make sure that a totally innocuous accessory isn't banned for some backwards, overreaching reason!

#M.A.G.A. #SendThemBack"

All Religions Are Insane wrote:

By doing this they are, on the one hand, protecting an article of clothing that has, for centuries, subjugated women and kept them oppressed in a religious context. With the same breathe they are claiming to be great emancipators...freeing non-Western women from Christian/Western definitions of normative behavior.

Claiming to be freeing someone from oppression by granting them freedom to be oppressed. I guess it's too difficult to ask for some consistency.

+1.

OMG. This makes too much sense. Please delete from LR!

Honestly — what is it with high school federations and these ridiculous rules about what kinds of hats, gloves, undershirts and just about everything else you can’t wear. You get to college and they don’t give a crap about this stuff, but not only do we hear every year about some high schooler getting disqualified over something dumb like this, we often also hear that the issue was raised by a rival coach trying to get his team a win they didn’t earn on the course/track. And as someone who has been an official for XC/track I have to wonder, what actually goes through the minds of the officials who make these calls? A common refrain in officiating circles is the reminder that “we’re doing this for the kids.” Like, you become an official, you’ll hear that exact phrase said to you 100 times a year. How is this kind of nonsense consistent with that?

Hardloper wrote:

Damn libs, can you go one day without pretending to be outraged

Where I come from the conservatives are the outraged ones. You guys have the presidency, the senate, until recently the house and have made great strides in the judicial branch. And yet, somehow, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have the base convinced that they’re being victimized. I’ve never seen a group so up in arms over how another group is up in arms. Republicans are snowflakes if you ask me.

From the article : Abukaram, meanwhile, obtained a waiver this week and will be able to run in the state regional meet this weekend."

It's a lot of fuss about not following the rules, which may seem ridiculous until athletes start showing up plastered with logos and mismatched uniforms. The idea is that cross country runners are part of a team. Matching uniforms help make that clear.

high school xc coach wrote:

exrunner wrote:

The international sport doesn’t have any of these restrictions.

The fact that the US makes up random rules about high school runners not being allowed to wear t-shirts or hats is actually just comical.

FIBA doesn't dictate the NBAs rules either. get outta here with this globalist crap. I'm not even in favor of these rules, but to say that some international organization should dictate to everybody else is just ridiculous.

Globalist crap? The freedom to wear a warm t-shirt under the athletes vest or wear a hat and gloves?

U.S.A. good old land of the free. LOL.

Pierre Delecto wrote:

Gosh.

It’s no wonder Trump won Ohio.

The place must be full of racist, sexist, misogynist, xenophobic bigots.

Wait.

She could have raced in her hijab had her coach known the rules and followed them.

Oh.

?‍♂️

Give me a fuggin break. This has nothing to do with following rules. This is the Unites States...no one needs permission to wear a hijab.

You Republicans and your love for BIG government...

Oh I see, the USA isn’t a land of freedom at all, and people who think the same as you like it. Sort of like a regime.

That makes more sense now.

My perception is bang on.