LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Looking like a good chance for the Ingebrigtsens to break 3:30
They are in shape, but first lap was paced WAY too fast. You can't target 3:30 with a 53.7 first lap, that's like what faster than El Guerrouj during his WR? No way!
Yeah the Inges weren't at 53 anything, though. They were 55 mid at the fastest, which is not out of line for a 3:29 target.
Dayum ....Alicia Newman
What do y’all think goes through Filip’s head when Jakob goes zooming by in the last 200 meters??
ncrecuvuer wrote:
I can't tell who looked smoother, Hassan running a 14:26 closing in a 59 or Cheruiyot going 3:30 running alone the last 500m. Jeez.
Give Cheruiyot the pacemakers that Komen and El Guerrouj had back in the days and he might be able to run a ridiculous time. El Guerrouj was fast, sure, but many people underestimate the role the pacing of Ngeny and co played.
Shkkkkcx wrote:
What do y’all think goes through Filip’s head when Jakob goes zooming by in the last 200 meters??
He was asked that excact question by NRK.
Answered that he tried maintaining his cadence and form while watching if Jakob could possibly catch Tim.
ex-runner wrote:
cheruiy on top wrote:
Remember when Coevett said the days of sub 3:32 races were over? lmao what and idiot.
Top guys running 3:30 for fun now. This is one of the greatest era's in 1500m running male and female in history.
I said the days of Kenyans running sub 3:30 were going to fade away.
And actually, aside from Tim, only Manangoi junior from Kenya has ran under 3:32 this season - and at that at Monaco.
In 2012 five Kenyans ran under 3:32 (and another ran 3:32.08), and three under 3:30.
What's changed is primarily that Europeans are catching up (two Ingebrigtsens and Charlie Grice running 3:30).
Oh, and it's sort of ironic that you're proclaiming that guys running 3:30 'for fun' is a golden age, when a few weeks ago you claimed that low 3:28 was the clean limit.
Let her run. If you hit it after the gun, it should be count. If you can time it, god bless you. The reality is she started after the gun went off.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
ncrecuvuer wrote:
I can't tell who looked smoother, Hassan running a 14:26 closing in a 59 or Cheruiyot going 3:30 running alone the last 500m. Jeez.
Give Cheruiyot the pacemakers that Komen and El Guerrouj had back in the days and he might be able to run a ridiculous time. El Guerrouj was fast, sure, but many people underestimate the role the pacing of Ngeny and co played.
This is true - even if El G was clean, he had the benefit of likely (in fact at least one case confirmed) dopers pacing him.
has ran -> has run
usnspecialist wrote:
rojo wrote:
So a guy who didn't even make it to the NCAA finals was in the DL 400 final?
Jonathan Sacoor of Tennesee. Admittedly 2018 world junior champ Jonathan Sacoor of Belgium is pretty good however. He ran 45.03 last year before getting to Tennessee but only 46.22 for Tennessee. He was 7th in 45.72 tonight.
It's worth nothing than ran another 400 just before the tv window started.
if you have noticed in both Zurich and Belgium they have given the host country a spot in most of the events. I assume they are not counted for prize money purposes.
I've noticed the same, but thought it was because Brussels have 9 lanes, so they can "afford" giving the extra spot to belgians?
Just speculating obviously.
DQ for reacting 0.004 inside the 0.1s reaction time. Absolutely ridiculous rules.
Nobody can prove decisively that the athlete didn't react to the gun. How has someone decided that 0.1 is a hard human limit when athletes react in 0.10x legally.
Ridiculous rule.
Kilty ha spoken about this before, some athletes just can simply react faster than 0.1s
Make the limit 0.08 or something
rojo wrote:
Let her run. If you hit it after the gun, it should be count. If you can time it, god bless you. The reality is she started after the gun went off.
I agree. They can call it a false start but a reaction of 0.097 shouldn't be a red card
rojo wrote:
Let her run. If you hit it after the gun, it should be count. If you can time it, god bless you. The reality is she started after the gun went off.
She did, but rules are rules. They have to set the threshold somewhere. Change the rules if there are athletes with super-human reaction time and either use automatic technology or lower the cut-off from 0.0100 to 0.0090
How is Potato consistently winning by more than one second? The field just lets him lope away. Sad!
Jakob looks like he'll medal at Worlds. Dude is always near the front.
rojo wrote:
Let her run. If you hit it after the gun, it should be count. If you can time it, god bless you. The reality is she started after the gun went off.
I've always thought the rules should be the way you suggest, but you know as well as anyone that they would have to change the rules first.
Levchenko ?
big dave22 wrote:
How is Potato consistently winning by more than one second? The field just lets him lope away. Sad!
Jakob looks like he'll medal at Worlds. Dude is always near the front.
Duuuuh....
The obvious answer is that he is capable of running atleast a second faster than anyone else? :)
Coevett wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
Top guys running 3:30 for fun now. This is one of the greatest era's in 1500m running male and female in history.
I said the days of Kenyans running sub 3:30 were going to fade away.
And actually, aside from Tim, only Manangoi junior from Kenya has ran under 3:32 this season - and at that at Monaco.
In 2012 five Kenyans ran under 3:32 (and another ran 3:32.08), and three under 3:30.
What's changed is primarily that Europeans are catching up (two Ingebrigtsens and Charlie Grice running 3:30).
Oh, and it's sort of ironic that you're proclaiming that guys running 3:30 'for fun' is a golden age, when a few weeks ago you claimed that low 3:28 was the clean limit.
Massive backpedaling. Embarrassing really. You most certainly said that Africans would no longer be running 3:32 and faster.
How will Charlie do in Doha?
douevenrunbro wrote:
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
They are in shape, but first lap was paced WAY too fast. You can't target 3:30 with a 53.7 first lap, that's like what faster than El Guerrouj during his WR? No way!
I disagree. A 54 is the right opening lap for a sub 3:30 paced race. You want to get out fast and slow marginally over laps 2 and 3 before running your fastest lap at the end.
Agreed, you have to get out a little fast. Cheruiyot in 3rd behind the pacemakers was 54 even which is exactly what he requested. Back of the field in 56 which is 3:30 pace. The second lap was just too slow, that was the problem. Pacer should have came through 1:49.8. He looked way too relaxed coming into 700m and I just knew something was off. But looking at the results, I don't think the guys were going to run crazy fast times anyways.
Also, can we please get rid of the 0.1 reaction time rule? You can call back the race if someone has a reaction time under that but if you go back and look at the tape and there's not conclusive evidence someone false started, let me them run. Going purely off the reaction time for a DQ just seems irrational to me.
I mean surely Hassan could have came back and ran a 1:59, Craig Engels said she was repping 26s 200's for her post race workout after her 8:18 at Pre. The women's 800m just isn't the same.
