Cross-Canada record attempt, 7200K - 66 days. Current record by Al Howie 72 days

Still some tough mountain passes to come including Rogers pass to Golden B.C. tomorrow and Kicking Horse from Golden to Banff the day after....though he is behind his goal pace , he could make it up on the Praries;

that being said comparing records is silly IMHO , anyone that has ran or biked on the Trans Canada realizes that going west to east is much easier than east to west direction (Howie's record) due to the prevailing winds generally being from the West ....good luck to him though...

A Redneck wrote:

But if he is running opposite of traffic on the TransCanada Highway, he is getting huge headwind from all the semi trucks and rednecks going the opposite way. It would be a lot wiser and safer to use secondary roads.

Have you had a look at a map from Canada ?

There are no secondary roads where he is running right now.

paul72 wrote:

Still some tough mountain passes to come including Rogers pass to Golden B.C. tomorrow and Kicking Horse from Golden to Banff the day after....though he is behind his goal pace , he could make it up on the Praries;

that being said comparing records is silly IMHO , anyone that has ran or biked on the Trans Canada realizes that going west to east is much easier than east to west direction (Howie's record) due to the prevailing winds generally being from the West ....good luck to him though...

Looks like that Rodgers Pass is 1314 meters high. That shouldn't be a big challenge running wise. But it might be difficult to crew there.

After listing in to some of the interviews Mike Cameron did, it looks like that Dave has some mental adjustments to do. Putting his unrealistic daily mileages away and think about what he can actually do on a daily basis. Multiday runs like this one are about finding the balance of getting enough miles in each day but also enough rest to continue the next day.

Now since he seem to have shin splints it's a lot more painful to do. Not impossible but really hard.

I really hope he continues, even if it will take him 80 days which would be still a huge accomplishment.

Looks like Dave is going much better today with a good pace and looks like he is in a much better mood from the podcast this morning. From their Instagram posts looks like it was a cold windy day yesterday but also had some treatment done so obviously there is at least a minor injury being treated.

Hope Dave gets back to the 100km mark per day after a couple down days

Markus wrote:

After listing in to some of the interviews Mike Cameron did, it looks like that Dave has some mental adjustments to do. Putting his unrealistic daily mileages away and think about what he can actually do on a daily basis. Multiday runs like this one are about finding the balance of getting enough miles in each day but also enough rest to continue the next day.

Now since he seem to have shin splints it's a lot more painful to do. Not impossible but really hard.

I really hope he continues, even if it will take him 80 days which would be still a huge accomplishment.

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Me too, don't care about the record, just hope he adjusts and continues. Like to see him at the Atlantic Ocean.

What worries me that Dave hammers down the road. I don't think he has any understanding that his pace is causing his shin splint issues.

Slow down young man, there are a heck of kilometers to go!

paul72 wrote:

Still some tough mountain passes to come including Rogers pass to Golden B.C. tomorrow and Kicking Horse from Golden to Banff the day after....though he is behind his goal pace , he could make it up on the Praries;

that being said comparing records is silly IMHO , anyone that has ran or biked on the Trans Canada realizes that going west to east is much easier than east to west direction (Howie's record) due to the prevailing winds generally being from the West ....good luck to him though...

There is no way he can make up the miles of his over ambitious goal.

If he survives the injury, Dave should be happy to maintain 55-60 miles per day. But first he has to survive the injury.

Al Howies ghost wrote:

What worries me that Dave hammers down the road. I don't think he has any understanding that his pace is causing his shin splint issues.

Slow down young man, there are a heck of kilometers to go!

Shuffling is the the key to reducing shin and leg injuries in a run like this. Dave does not seem to be doing that.

Shufflers wrote:

Shuffling is the the key to reducing shin and leg injuries in a run like this. Dave does not seem to be doing that.

This looks like a shuffle. Although he does have excessive upper body movement.

Tron wrote:

Hope Dave gets back to the 100km mark per day after a couple down days

Looking like he'll run over that today, he's got about 30k left before Golden and he's been running at a good pace all day.

I agree his goal was overly ambitious-though Rogers is relatively low elevation-wise at 1314m check out:

the downhill slope of Rogers is a definite quad buster-again I hope he finishes this run though record probably out the window...

I've been reading this Dave Proctor thread since it started but haven't looked at anything in detail. The user going by "dbjared" started a thread today pointing out an anomaly in Proctor's Garmin tracking and that prompted me to give a closer look at Proctor's Strava data and what I see is very suspicious that should at least warrant closer scrutiny and data collection.

We have a separate thread here and I posted my detailed analysis thus far. I do not wish to raise attention to Proctor and his team at this point since I want to collect more data to build my case or to refute the anomalies I am seeing:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=8899323

scam_watcheroo wrote:

I've been reading this Dave Proctor thread since it started but haven't looked at anything in detail. The user going by "dbjared" started a thread today pointing out an anomaly in Proctor's Garmin tracking and that prompted me to give a closer look at Proctor's Strava data and what I see is very suspicious that should at least warrant closer scrutiny and data collection.

We have a separate thread here and I posted my detailed analysis thus far. I do not wish to raise attention to Proctor and his team at this point since I want to collect more data to build my case or to refute the anomalies I am seeing:

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Just so you know, I was watching the tracker today and it was normal, showed him running along the highway, and then the next time it suddenly appeared different and had that straight line the other poster saw. This was after it had shown he covered the distance along the same path as the road. It looked to me like the error was in the program after the fact, as it had originally shown him moving along the road.

Anyway, something to look into as the tracker program changed the route it showed he ran, and it shouldn’t. Totally seemed like a program error.

Are you suggesting program error as in Garmin Express the software between Strava and the watch?

He should know this, so he can contact either Garmin or Strava (if he is using Garmin) to sort this out. I know someone that ran into a similar error correction with Suunto the same watch the Kilian Jornet had "major corrections" with on Everest.....hmmmm......

North Vancouver wrote:

Just so you know, I was watching the tracker today and it was normal, showed him running along the highway, and then the next time it suddenly appeared different and had that straight line the other poster saw. This was after it had shown he covered the distance along the same path as the road. It looked to me like the error was in the program after the fact, as it had originally shown him moving along the road.

Anyway, something to look into as the tracker program changed the route it showed he ran, and it shouldn’t. Totally seemed like a program error.

That could possibility be an issue with his Garmin live tracker since I don't see a major time gap in his Strava data that comes from his Garmin Fenix watch. I wasn't watching his Garmin live tracker so I don't have any screenshots of that. All my analysis in the other thread was done based on his Strava data from his Garmin Fenix.

Wet Coast wrote:

Are you suggesting program error as in Garmin Express the software between Strava and the watch?

He should know this, so he can contact either Garmin or Strava (if he is using Garmin) to sort this out. I know someone that ran into a similar error correction with Suunto the same watch the Kilian Jornet had "major corrections" with on Everest.....hmmmm......

I think the Garmin live tracker was possibly a bug, but I'm not basing my analysis on it since I don't have screenshots or a way to download that data.

The issues I'm seeing in Proctor's Strava data are not a one time thing since I would dismiss a one time anomaly as being a bug. There are repeated anomalies in Proctor's data since he started his run across Canada that I do not see in his Strava data from before the run.

I'm not comfortable to say definitively what Proctor is doing on his run or if he can explain it, only that I find the data he is producing very suspicious.

scam_watcheroo wrote:

That could possibility be an issue with his Garmin live tracker since I don't see a major time gap in his Strava data that comes from his Garmin Fenix watch. I wasn't watching his Garmin live tracker so I don't have any screenshots of that. All my analysis in the other thread was done based on his Strava data from his Garmin Fenix.

Yup, I saw you were using his Strava. I have to double check but I thought you had asked go see Garmin Live Track screenshots? Anyway, I just meant that I would be careful about relying on screenshots of the Live Track to come to any conclusions as it really just seemed like a weird program thing. Whatever you find on his strava or if he sends you the watch data is a different matter.

Golden to Lake Louise, one day late. Would be 80k if he sticks to that plan. He's about eight miles in but his Garmin says "No signal. Trying to reconnect" as of about 9:15am Eastern time/6:15am Pacific.

So he wears two Garmin devices to make sure that he has tracking happening at all times. It is a Guinness World Record attempt......perhaps the linking of two watch signals is where the straight lines happen.