Benching 225 is equivalent to what mile time?

Definitely cannot do this now but I put up 225 with 4 reps at 17. Mind you, at that time, I was only a 16:45 runner

XFitGuy_the_Real_1 wrote:

theJeff wrote:

You think that because you are scrawny and you have surrounded yourself with similarly scrawny people.

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First Reject Runner comes back, and now XFitBro!?!? What a great week for LRC!

PS- I have printed and framed this; it is now on my fridge.

I feel like now is as good a time as any:

Mile PR: 5:21 (have never trained for one specifically)

Bench Max: 385

225 Rep Max: 24

(My mile and bench PRs were set a little over a decade apart)

How fast of a mile time would you need to trade for if youd be trading going from a 225 lb bench to 125 lb bench. Id say aound 4:02-4:03, ie id rather be able to bench 225 but only be able to run a 7min mile iver being Ble to run 4:05 mile but only bench 125 lb. However, i'd take 4:01/125 over 7:00/225

I ran PR's of about 4:15 mile, 9:11 2mile, and 14:50's for 5K during my college/post-college days. I benched 245 back then when I weighed about 145lbs and could do reps of 185x10 and 205x4-5. About 4.5% body fat. I set that bench press 'best' during a time when I was a little more focused on weight training (like 3x a week for about 2.5hrs total) but still running 30-35miles a week and could probably have ripped off a 4:35-40mile just off the running I was doing (kind of non-specific training at that point because I had a semester that was really loaded with classes at weird times that made it hard to be consistent). Hope that helps in your formulations.

Age and gender need to be factored in. If talking about young men in their prime and you look at it this way, 10 reps @225 lbs vs. 10 miles at x pace, Benching 225 lb is way easier than 50 minutes for 10 miles, so those who are saying a 5 minute mile or faster are way off. I'd go with maybe a 5:30-5:40 mile for a male in his prime.

Meant to say benching 10x225lb is way easier to achieve than running 10 miles in 50 min.

theJeff wrote:

I feel like now is as good a time as any:

Mile PR: 5:21 (have never trained for one specifically)

Bench Max: 385

225 Rep Max: 24

(My mile and bench PRs were set a little over a decade apart)

You are 100000000x the lifter than you are runner brahh. Honestly were all biased depending on our experiences. If you grew up in Russia with olympic lifters and bbc beeches then you think 225 is a walk in the park. If you grew up in East Africa with 5' 100lb males running 12 minute 5ks and skeeny bbc beeches then you think 225 is of the gods.

RejectRunner: Didn't you state a few pages back a five minute mile equals 225 lbs. That was nonsense.

RejectRunner wrote:

theJeff wrote:

I feel like now is as good a time as any:

Mile PR: 5:21 (have never trained for one specifically)

Bench Max: 385

225 Rep Max: 24

(My mile and bench PRs were set a little over a decade apart)

You are 100000000x the lifter than you are runner brahh. Honestly were all biased depending on our experiences. If you grew up in Russia with olympic lifters and bbc beeches then you think 225 is a walk in the park. If you grew up in East Africa with 5' 100lb males running 12 minute 5ks and skeeny bbc beeches then you think 225 is of the gods.

Played football in college. Didn’t start running until late 20s :-) Yes, definitely have more exp lifting!

Agree 100% on “we all have biases”. I feel like a little more of an authority on this because I have played at a reasonably high level in the middle third of my life and have coached runners at a reasonably high level for the last third of my life.

See my post earlier about me sharing this question with a table full of runners and football players at my school. Very predictable responses :-)

As others have rightly pointed out, a blanket statement like "five minute mile equals 225 lbs" is nonsense.

Generally, in the bench press, a reasonable standard to shoot for is benching your body weight, i.e., 1:1 ratio. In the deadlift, a ratio of 1.75:1. In the back squat to parallel, 1.5:1. Diminishing returns with respect to general fitness quickly follow after obtaining this standards. In general, the lighter you are, the larger these ratios should be.

FWIW, the overhead press is a much more useful lift, but I'd avoid using the barbell for it since its disturbingly easy to injure your ill-designed shoulder girlde; lifting your arms over your head already puts your shoulders in a compromising situation, and then the barbell constrains the path you can follow on top of that. Dumbbells are safer, for both the overhead and the bench press. All other things being equal, you won't be able to do as much weight, of course, but not by much.

To bring this back on topic, the probability that a randomly selected person could, after sufficient rest and refueling, run a five minute mile is denoted by p. We wish to find a y such that with probability p a randomly selected person could, after sufficient rest and refueling, obtain a ratio of y.

This problem has thus been reduced to an empirical question. Find out what p is and then find out what y is given p.

Make it happen.

Of course, maybe we are interested in different populations, e.g., a randomly selected person from a population of males between the ages of 16 to 50 who run at least 10 mpw and strength train at least once a week.

How did you formulate your seemingly arbitrary bodyweight:lift ratios?

Try to formulate similar ratios for bodyweight:mile (in seconds). I would be interested to see your thoughts.

Alan Webbs Triceps wrote:

compressed wrote:

Like Solomon, allow me to split the difference.

5:30!

Liberate yourself from the tyranny of round numbers.

I hit 245 for a max bench in college while I weighed around 145 - 148. I found that 225 for the bench came noticeably easier than 5:00 for the mile. I ran a 5:03 PR for 1600m in high school.

Yeah, I know, I'm not the typical 3:43 mile PR guy everyone else is on Letsrun.

My question is why did you run track and not do something using your talent?

I broke 5 early in high school barely thinking about it, but can’t bench my weight. (6’1 150)

This is way simpler than the guess work.

World Record Bench is 1074

World Record Mile is 3:43

225/1074 = 20.9%

so 20% preformance on the world record mile 223"/20.9% = 1067" or 10:47

Conclusion a 225 bench equates to a 10:47 mile.

Go wrestle wrote:

Alan Webbs Triceps wrote:

I hit 245 for a max bench in college while I weighed around 145 - 148. I found that 225 for the bench came noticeably easier than 5:00 for the mile. I ran a 5:03 PR for 1600m in high school.

Yeah, I know, I'm not the typical 3:43 mile PR guy everyone else is on Letsrun.

My question is why did you run track and not do something using your talent?

I broke 5 early in high school barely thinking about it, but can’t bench my weight. (6’1 150)

Yeah this is like the other guy who claimed he couke easily bench over 250lbs whilst weighing under 150lbs. Then some other guy stated that elite powerlifters of the same weight bench around the same.

If these posters are for real then they really wasted their time running.

runners are puny wrote:

This is way simpler than the guess work.

World Record Bench is 1074

World Record Mile is 3:43

225/1074 = 20.9%

so 20% preformance on the world record mile 223"/20.9% = 1067" or 10:47

Conclusion a 225 bench equates to a 10:47 mile.

That’s with a suit. Raw record is 738.5. Your fuzzy math still comes out with a 7xx mile.

I stand by my 225 = 6:00. Based solely on personal observation in the gym and in the Army.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

runners are puny wrote:

This is way simpler than the guess work.

World Record Bench is 1074

World Record Mile is 3:43

225/1074 = 20.9%

so 20% preformance on the world record mile 223"/20.9% = 1067" or 10:47

Conclusion a 225 bench equates to a 10:47 mile.

That’s with a suit. Raw record is 738.5. Your fuzzy math still comes out with a 7xx mile.

I stand by my 225 = 6:00. Based solely on personal observation in the gym and in the Army.

Alan

You're right. Too early to be doing math. It should be way slower (17'). I am happy to go with the raw record. In which case 225 is 30.47% of that.

223"/30.47% = 731.87" so 12' mile.

runners are puny wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

That’s with a suit. Raw record is 738.5. Your fuzzy math still comes out with a 7xx mile.

I stand by my 225 = 6:00. Based solely on personal observation in the gym and in the Army.

Alan

You're right. Too early to be doing math. It should be way slower (17'). I am happy to go with the raw record. In which case 225 is 30.47% of that.

223"/30.47% = 731.87" so 12' mile.

Just ran a race, so my brain isn’t working quite right, but:

I don’t think you can make an equation like that. As bench gets worse, it gets closer to 0, but as mile gets worse, it gets closer to infinity.

Help me understand this.

I did: 738.5 x .7 = 225, so

(223” x .7) + 223” = 379” = 6:20ish, which is much closer to the estimates on this board... but it still doesn’t seem right.