John Utah wrote:
jpoaon wrote:
Well, it's not legal anywhere in the U.S. to sell without a license, the kid is also under 21 which is another stipulation of smoking weed, let alone dealing it.
Jaywalking is also illegal, so is going 56 in a 55.
Some folks really get off on being tough guy law n order types.. No matter what the law, they follow blindly and without question.
Smoke Central wrote:
I have a few friends who on runners at North Central, and they said that they had tons of weed at their Nationals party as well as other parties. So we know who Jared was supplying for
I heard they regularly put "extra seasoning" ;) in their protein pancakes for pre-Saturday morning meets. What is the ideal time to take edibles before a race to make sure you feel as little pain as possible?
One runner arrested for weed...
Hundreds of NBA and NFL guys arrested for crimes ranging from wife beating to robbery to murder.....
rules of law wrote:
Hey you legal experts. Innocent until proven guilty. A good defense attorney might be able to argue the case that the package was not intended for him, or maybe get him off on a technicality. If he actually did it and has an otherwise good record he'll have a felony but can plea down to a much lesser sentence than 5-8 years behind bars as others are spouting off here.
Why are so many letsrunners so dumb? Tell me.
Why are you so dumb. Do you think anyone doesn't already know what you just said, Captain Obvious?
The point I'm making is that it's insane that he even has the possibility of a felony and jail time for stupid weed. What if he had a keg of beer? Not a felony. And I understand what the laws are, which is my point. Also, we don't enforce immigration laws, so why enforce weed laws when it's legal in multiple states?
NCC=dirtybirds wrote:
Smoke Central wrote:
I have a few friends who on runners at North Central, and they said that they had tons of weed at their Nationals party as well as other parties. So we know who Jared was supplying for
I heard they regularly put "extra seasoning" ;) in their protein pancakes for pre-Saturday morning meets. What is the ideal time to take edibles before a race to make sure you feel as little pain as possible?
None of this is true.
NotPC wrote:
John Utah wrote:
Jaywalking is also illegal, so is going 56 in a 55.
Some folks really get off on being tough guy law n order types.. No matter what the law, they follow blindly and without question.
I am a tough guy law and order type, but laws have to make logical sense. Weed laws don't.
All the pot heads on this site crack me up. The whole reason he was dealing in the first place was to profit off of prohibition. Whether or not you think it should be legal or not is irrelevant, he broke the law, wasn't paying taxes, and was helping to support organized crime (there is no place in this country where someone 19 years old can legally purchase 3.3 # of weed, even SoCal). You all like to believe that you are just supporting some Humboldt county hippie practicing civil disobedience, but the truth is you are more often than not supporting ruined lives and violent crimes when you purchase recreational drugs. When Colorado legalized pot, crime went up, not down.
The willful ignorance of those on this site who disagree with any insinuation that pot can have harmful effects, especially if smoked as a teen / juvenile is ridiculous and stands in contrast to research done the world over. One of the most disturbing things to come out of legalization is the rise in the number of pot pregnancies. Do alcohol, cigarettes, etc. all have harmful effects? Absolutely, and I wouldn't recommend that anyone use those legal products either (there is even more evidence linking nicotine to psychosis). And opiates and cocaine are probably some of the worst things ever when used recreationally. All of these products were at one time legal (read the original Sherlock Holmes stories if you are interested). The British were some of the original gangsters, forcing opium on the Chinese to reverse a trade imbalance because of their addiction to tea. Eventually, previous generations made this things illegal because of the detrimental impacts on society. Our reversal of their prohibition is foolhardy.
As for the successful 50 some odd year old pot head. Congratulations, you are the exception and not the rule. For every 1 successful pot head that you can throw out there, I can throw out 10-20 who are not pot heads. Your short term memory must suck, and I wouldn't be surprised if you vomit frequently. It would be interesting to learn if you ever tried to quit. I imagine it must have sucked as your cannabinoid receptors and dopamine production are likely severely impaired (they can come back to normal if you are able to stay clean for a long enough period, but the withdrawal is pretty severe). You probably have to smoke weed just to feel what the rest of us consider to be normal as your brains natural reward pathways are pretty hampered at this point.
As for my aversion to it and pretty much every other drug out there, it stems from my relationship with my cousin growing up. He was closest to me in age of any of my cousins, and we used to fish, camp and work fast food together when I was younger. He smoked pot from the age of 14, later dealt it to support his habit as he got older, was arrested for distribution at 19. He wasn't in prison long, did his probation, got out, went back to work in fast food, eventually opened his own store, kept smoking weed and shot himself in the head at 28, leaving behind a wife and two kids. I had two other classmates that lived pretty similar stories. Pot and other drugs severely hamper one's brain chemistry, and there is a huge link between pot use at a young age and suicide.
97% of Federal cases end in plea bargains. Wake up lol.
The poster Joe Dirt is living in some 1950s style world where government is king, weed is bad, the commies are coming, and we must all obey every law to a T.
None of your "scientific" evidence or conjecture is correct. The fact that you take the time to troll everyone on here shows that you clearly have nothing better to do than waste your time making a bunch of incorrect and inflammatory comments on a subject that you have no idea on at all.
Lets state some facts while we are at it, and I will use ACTUAL research to prove my points, not a news website.
1. Marijuana does not adversely affect IQ, including in adolescent development- 2 longitudinal research studies done on individuals age 9-12 and re-tested come ages 17-20. All the data from the research is in the link
(
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/01/13/1516648113
)
2. There have been ZERO overdose deaths from marijuana. I don't even need to cite a specific article, that's just a simple fact.
3. Marijuana is significantly safer than most legal drugs, both for the user and for potential harm to others. Alcohol dwarfs it in comparison.
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(10)61462-6/abstract
4. Gateway drug myth: individuals who do harder drugs are more likely to start with alcohol and tobacco as compared to marijuana. (
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB6010.html
)
5. Health benefits- marijuana has 100s of uses for medicinal purposes and for states that it is legal, is a commonly prescribed drug by medical doctors. (
https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24625/the-health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids-the-current-state
)
6. Marijuana is not chemically addictive- again, common known fact so not going to cite a ton of research. Behaviorally addictive is another matter (which it is)- however, alot of things are behaviorally addictive, including what has brought all of us to this website- running.
At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their opinion about the matter and for whatever reason, the US government has had a major agenda against marijuana for a while now while it allowed tobacco use (far more detrimental) and alcohol use (even worse than tobacco) to run rampant. I don't even smoke (the whole running thing and strict parents growing up) but I have plenty of friends who do who are plenty successful.
Marijuana makes you lazy, depressed, and apathetic just as much as video games- its a behavioral issue, not a chemically induced one.
We give a guy like Brock Turner who legit raped someone 6 months in jail and we think this Jared kid is going to get a jail sentence? 3.3 lbs of weed compared to rape? This isn't even a question at this point how outdated these laws are.
Joedirt
There's trouble, right here in Rivercity.. POOL! ...
Can we finally be done with Puritans like joedirtball and I seriously didn't know people still thought this way.
You're an unwitting soldier for the pot lobby. I never argued alcohol and nicotine were safe (quite the opposite). Arguing pot is safe is ridiculous.
joedirt wrote:
All the pot heads on this site crack me up. The whole reason he was dealing in the first place was to profit off of prohibition. lol, who's fault is it that it's in prohibition in the first place? For what reason? Not because it's harmful....I'm pretty sure it was about racism and the counter-culture .
(there is no place in this country where someone 19 years old can legally purchase 3.3 # of weed, even SoCal). How do you know? Come here to San Diego County and I'll show you a 19 year old that can buy 5lbs+. He makes some of the best concentrates with it. Clean and potent.
When Colorado legalized pot, crime went up, not down. Source, please.
The willful ignorance of those on this site who disagree with any insinuation that pot can have harmful effects, especially if smoked as a teen / juvenile is ridiculous and stands in contrast to research done the world over. One of the most disturbing things to come out of legalization is the rise in the number of pot pregnancies. Do alcohol, cigarettes, etc. all have harmful effects? Absolutely, and I wouldn't recommend that anyone use those legal products either (there is even more evidence linking nicotine to psychosis). Where are your sources on the pregnancies? Most of us have been agreeing that pot isn't harmless and we all agree that developing humans should not consume. They shouldn't be drinking Starbucks at 12 years old either, but you see them all the time.
As for the successful 50 some odd year old pot head. Congratulations, you are the exception and not the rule. We only seem like the exception because most people are likely closet potheads because of the social stigma in many places. My rather conservative (in the context of substance use) engineering coworkers know I consume, and they are mostly successful immigrants with a more extreme view on drug use. They don't care about weed.
Your short term memory must suck, and I wouldn't be surprised if you vomit frequently. WTF is this? vomiting frequently? Last time I vomited it was because of bad food, not weed. Edibles make my tummy feel great!
It would be interesting to learn if you ever tried to quit. I go on 2 week tolerance breaks often. No symptoms really, just would rather experience life high a lot of times.
As for my aversion to it and pretty much every other drug out there, it stems from my relationship with my cousin growing up. He was closest to me in age of any of my cousins, and we used to fish, camp and work fast food together when I was younger. He smoked pot from the age of 14, later dealt it to support his habit as he got older, was arrested for distribution at 19. He wasn't in prison long, did his probation, got out, went back to work in fast food, eventually opened his own store, kept smoking weed and shot himself in the head at 28, leaving behind a wife and two kids. I had two other classmates that lived pretty similar stories. Pot and other drugs severely hamper one's brain chemistry, and there is a huge link between pot use at a young age and suicide. We don't disagree, but your anecdote is bad. How did your cousin grow up? How was his home life? Who were his parents? How was his general behavior? You blame the pot, I blame your cousins character and personality. You are who you are, weed at most exacerbates what you already suffer from.
joedirt, just stop.
joedirt wrote:
Arguing pot is not safe is ridiculous.
John Utah wrote:
rules of law wrote:
Hey you legal experts. Innocent until proven guilty. A good defense attorney might be able to argue the case that the package was not intended for him, or maybe get him off on a technicality. If he actually did it and has an otherwise good record he'll have a felony but can plea down to a much lesser sentence than 5-8 years behind bars as others are spouting off here.
Why are so many letsrunners so dumb? Tell me.
Why are you so dumb. Do you think anyone doesn't already know what you just said, Captain Obvious?
The point I'm making is that it's insane that he even has the possibility of a felony and jail time for stupid weed. What if he had a keg of beer? Not a felony. And I understand what the laws are, which is my point. Also, we don't enforce immigration laws, so why enforce weed laws when it's legal in multiple states?
Hey hey, calm down there cowboy. I actually agree with you on this one. My comment was in response to those who have already convicted him.
(don't agree with you on much of anything but see that you thought my comment was responding to what your were saying, when actually I just hit reply to your post but was writing to other posters not you--I do forgive you, son. Now by all means, carry on.)
Jefe in the CO wrote:
PRs for the boy wrote:
Jared Borowsky
Personal Records:
800m - 1:58.57
1600m - 4:18.18
1 Mile - 4:21.05
3000m (in) - 8:29.31
3200m - 9:07.47
3 Mile (xc) - 14:38.70
5K (xc) - 15:12.00
8K (xc) - 23:37.90
Either his PRs aren't update or whomever measured that "8k" course was high as a kite.
Those times besides the 8k and the 3k were his high school times. He didn’t run much at Colorado.
Here, I fixed that for you ./ wrote:
joedirt wrote:
Arguing pot is not safe is ridiculous.
I believe joe dirt must be the b*stard lovechild of jeff sessions and carla lowe. some pathetic folks living in the dark ages.
Pretty sure the counter culture wasn't around in the thirties when they originally made it illegal (they didn't suddenly make it illegal in the 60s you know?). As far as vomiting, for someone who professes to know everything about weed, you must have never heard of Cannabinoid Hyperemesis syndrome. As far as Colorado crime is concerned, here you go:
As far as the pot babies is concerned, some of our best friends are doctors and they deliver a bunch of Medicaid babies. If you care for a supporting article, here you go:
The fact that you self impose tolerance breaks means that you acknowledge your own pot use is a problem and have probably had to deals with issues in the past. Care to share some of those as well?
As far as my cousin, he grew up in a household not terribly different than mine (two parents, no abuse or other issues). He also lived in a similar neighborhood and income level as me. The only difference in our lives were personal choices we made along the way.
Free Advice wrote:
NCC=dirtybirds wrote:
I heard they regularly put "extra seasoning" ;) in their protein pancakes for pre-Saturday morning meets. What is the ideal time to take edibles before a race to make sure you feel as little pain as possible?
None of this is true.
Yeah! ... We totally didn't party after nationals! ...
Don't jump to conclusions a distance runner would never do this it could potentially damage his lungs. There are some possibilities here:
1.) It is actually 3 Pounds of oregano that he is brining to the North Central College Track Team for a Pasta Party.
2.) He is donating it to a local group that will distribute it out to hospitals to help Glaucoma Patients.
3.) He is Willie Nelsons Personal Assistant.
4.) He is Snoop Dogg's Personal Assistant.
5.) He is having a difficult time eating because of the stupid hair cut and figured three pounds of weed would give him the munchies.
But A Drug Dealer no way because nobody would rather find a really easy way to make loads of cash versus running a race.
Couldn't you make the same arguments about alcohol and your cousin? People make choices, he chose poorly. Same goes for kids ingesting their parents edibles. How many kids get into their parents liquor cabinet and get sick?
Legalized weed is coming Joe.. get used to it and sit back and enjoy the free tax $$ that will come your way.