Paul edwards wrote:
Kcl try to use wada rules to protect them when wada didn't exist in 1997 but calabration data has always been part of tests in fact at this time professor Cowan wrote papers for medical journals etc to verify how important calabration data was
See the liar and cheat ,Edwards , is still peddling his rubbish about how the world has ganged up on him.Ban this idiot from Letsrun.
I need to put some documents on here to verify what everyone is talking about any ideas
Paul edwards wrote:
I need to put some documents on here to verify what everyone is talking about any ideas
Ideas , fantasies more like .
How about that you are Donald Trump's missing link brother , get your Micky Mouse docs for that.
Paul edwards wrote:
I need to put some documents on here to verify what everyone is talking about any ideas
Is there any reason you can't have ALL of your documents available to review online? Outside of the hassle of copying and organizing all of them, of course. Are there any specific legal reasons you wouldn't be able to do that?
I wonder if a simple google drive account could handle it easily?
I see there's been two House of Commons debates posted on Facebook that must be rare MPs must have seen the covering up going on even giving them the run round
To how it may concern you tried holding in formation on Mr Paul Edwards For Nine Years ?? This once I have been sent this I will Put It On Here & Yes iI Have Full Permision Of Mr Paul Edwards You Let The Drug Cheats Back in too All Sports Compations
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Bronwynn wrote:
2 debates by Andrew hunter mp and Maria miller both on Hansard 2002 by Andrew hunter 2007 by Maria miller I've seen them so no joke
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David M Jones wrote:
https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmhansrd/cm071009/debtext/71009-0020.htm
A bit of a summary of the MP's point .
Previously the Minister told his MP that Edwards should go to IAAF with the evidence that was withheld and was rather damning I.e. No calibration data and urine substitution .Iaaf said can't re open a case under any circumstances and to go to CAS . CAS said not down to them , go to IAAF .
So unlike any other form of justice there is no provision for re hearing new evidence .
Further; Kings College were acting under contract to UK Sport , a government agency . So is the Government responsible for such breaches of natural justice ?
Michelle V wrote:
A bit of a summary of the MP's point .
Previously the Minister told his MP that Edwards should go to IAAF with the evidence that was withheld and was rather damning I.e. No calibration data and urine substitution .Iaaf said can't re open a case under any circumstances and to go to CAS . CAS said not down to them , go to IAAF .
Classical closed circle cover up. Not exactly surprising, given their history.
Try to get statements from the respective Ethics Committees: UKAD, IAAF, WADA.
Get some reporters on your side. Email wejo with facts. Create and keep a paper trail. Make a fuss.
There are a lot of problems here:
1. 1980's Shotputter
2. Corrupt sports administrators
3. Terrible scientists
To address each problem:
1. Most throwers were / are juiced
2. Most sports administrators were / are corrupt
3. Most lab techs were / are pretty inept
The big question is:
What did Paul Edwards do to get banned? Testing positive is not enough, plenty of opportunity to cover up the positive tests with #2 above.
He obviously rubbed someone high up the wrong way. Perhaps he can comment in this thread about enemies etc. that would want to see him go down like this.
Regarding #3 above, in all likelihood the MS was calibrated properly, the calibration data was either not saved or can be found in someones old dusty lab book either lost or thrown out by now. It's a bit of a weak argument in my opinion, just because they can't find the data doesn't mean they didn't perform the calibration. From my experience in labs, I know most of these guys are fairly useless.
No there was no calibration at all. This is a proven and documented fact.
Besides this fatal lack of calibration there were so many other ridiculous errors and deficiencies in the sampling and testing that it becomes obvious why those in a position of power would not answer him in court and paid handsomely to avoid doing so. I tend to agree - it seems possible someone or some organisation did not like Paul for whatever reason and made sure he disappeared from athletics any way they could manage it
It's going to take time to organize this, but for now I've started uploading data to a google drive folder to make it easier to access. Unfortunately, some of the correspondence is photocopied in such a way that makes it more difficult to read than most people are likely willing to put up with; it's quite hard on the eyes.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6f0LPZ-uUKqQWVFZ2w3akNhcjg
Thttps://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmhansrd/vo020509/debtext/20509-42.htm
David, that is linked in the google drive under "parliament files"
too many problems wrote:
There are a lot of problems here:
1. 1980's Shotputter
2. Corrupt sports administrators
3. Terrible scientists
To address each problem:
1. Most throwers were / are juiced
2. Most sports administrators were / are corrupt
3. Most lab techs were / are pretty inept
The big question is:
What did Paul Edwards do to get banned? Testing positive is not enough, plenty of opportunity to cover up the positive tests with #2 above.
He obviously rubbed someone high up the wrong way. Perhaps he can comment in this thread about enemies etc. that would want to see him go down like this.
Regarding #3 above, in all likelihood the MS was calibrated properly, the calibration data was either not saved or can be found in someones old dusty lab book either lost or thrown out by now. It's a bit of a weak argument in my opinion, just because they can't find the data doesn't mean they didn't perform the calibration. From my experience in labs, I know most of these guys are fairly useless.
They kept doing analysis without cal data until they got an outlier result that suited them and had to find urine from somewhere to keep doing these tests .
As for the driver in all this . Edwards was about to be cleared from an earlier test but someone hated this thought and had power to control ,influence and apply pressure .
This is not directly related to Paul's case, but shows how quickly things can go wrong in a lab.
Despite the following taking place, the AFLD secretary general didn't think it was a big deal. These guys don't understand they are playing with people's lives. Disgraceful.
"Le Monde has reported that there were two instances of contamination in the laboratory, which arose after a urine sample with an exceptionally high concentration of anabolic steroids had left a residue on the testing equipment that remained even after thorough washing."
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wada-provisionally-suspends-chatenay-malabry-laboratory/