DOWN GOES BOLT! / Justin Gatlin- The Champion track deserves

So, rojo, what do you think about Bolt being pumped full of Actovegin his entire career by Dr. Hans Wohlfahrt?

this shows that gatlin is more the natural sprinter over bolt over 100m

when take away large amounts of dope .

do you not remember seeing gatlin drop 9.80's continuously for fun

last year . and was fast in 200m when never as fast before.

that was serious dope , so absolutely a doper and one of dirtiest

and if could would be do same this year

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but dope dried up for whatever reason and left with speed peptide

so still seeing a doper here just not like before.

bolt loses but can't lose as just look at career and narrative will

be all same in all media that still a winner etc and squeaky clean

and should retire now . as media controlled as much as track is and bolt

when the reality is likely being forced to retire , as dominance

was having negative effect and intelligence project of iaaf/wada is done.

he likely would continue if ask me as addictive and with speed peptide

see it saves you from aging so easily keep standard high .

I agree.

F--- the London crowd for boo-ing Gatlin.

Bolt has been juiced up to his eyeballs since 2008 and he gets cheers, but Gatlin who paid the price for juicing gets boos?

F--- that London crowd. Their own Mo Farah has been on that shady NOP and juicing for years and their own Seb Coe juiced himself to 4 Olympic Medals back in the 1980's and is now the IAAF president!

F--- that London crowd. What a bunch of a-holes. British people generally are.

why can't we just get along wrote:

Davetherealone wrote:

#MAGA Trump president, and America wins the 100 again. Coincidence??

If Gatlin weren't American he wouldn't have been booed.

In Europe and the third world it's fine to hate Americans. Just look at El Keniano who must insert some totally unrelated America hate in his post (which rojo praisefully deleted).

I admit I do get carried away sometimes (as you would expect from passionate fans of any sport), and that I did reference a hot wire issue, but I don't see how my comment could have been misconstrued as "America hate". If anything, the world (until recently) looks up to America and expects you to set an example.

Obtuse Moron wrote:

tothegills wrote:

Cool video on the USATF Instagram of Team USA athletes reacting to Gatlin's win.

https://www.instagram.com/usatf/

The reaction was similar to the Simpson verdict......

What a racist load of shyt, that the self sucking brojo's will no doubt allow to remain.

F*ck you and all Racist. Die, MFer, Die.

Steve Cram and his crew are to blame for our reaction. Instead of being cognisant of the power that comes with their position and wielding it responsibly, they whip the public into a frenzy of hate and vindictiveness, making them bay for blood like the mobs of ancient Rome, whilst ignoring controversies around their own home favourites like Farah and Ohurogou.

rojo wrote:

Read what I just posted. His first positive was for ADHD meds.

i.e. stimulants. You shouldn't get a TUE for something that will still give you an unfair advantage.

But it's a ridiculous, tangent, moot point red herring bunch of guff. It's the 100 meters - one bust is enough. No sanctioned doper has ever come back to win gold in the event that I recall. Ben Johnson tried, and if he had succeeded, he would have been booed too, even if 1988 were his only positive.

Professional track is for the fans. If the rules encourage comebacks, but the fans don't like it, the rules have to be fixed, not the fans. So there's no point telling people not to boo dopers.

Bad Wigins wrote:

rojo wrote:

Read what I just posted. His first positive was for ADHD meds.

i.e. stimulants. You shouldn't get a TUE for something that will still give you an unfair advantage.

But it's a ridiculous, tangent, moot point red herring bunch of guff. It's the 100 meters - one bust is enough. No sanctioned doper has ever come back to win gold in the event that I recall. Ben Johnson tried, and if he had succeeded, he would have been booed too, even if 1988 were his only positive.

Professional track is for the fans. If the rules encourage comebacks, but the fans don't like it, the rules have to be fixed, not the fans. So there's no point telling people not to boo dopers.

100% agree

This thread is ridiculous. If Bolt wins it's because he's doping. But when a 35 year old who's been previously caught for doping wins, he's clean and everyone should respect him for coming back from adversity? No logic flaws to see here.

Can't you just admit you are happy because an American won and you really want that to be ok, so you'll make up any pathetic excuse for anything he's ever done or currently doing because you want an American to win? If Gatlin was Jamaican none of you would be ok with his past doping and you'd be highly suspicious of his ability to win at 35. Just pathetic and intellectually dishonest.

rojo wrote:

800ftw. wrote:

You are something else.

Somehow, admist the fact that a twice convicted doper wins the 100m you manage to twist this around and insult Farah again?

Truly despicable. Might even be proof that you simply dislike Farah for some personal reason Vs thinking he is a drug cheats, as Gatlin is a twice confirmed drug cheat and you are celebrating this here.

Totally biased nonsense from this site. Throw all your so called morals out the window because U. S. A. U. S. A.

So many people don't know what they are talking about.

Gatlin's 1st positive was for ADHD meds. I think he definitely was a doper under Trevor Graham but he's way more vilified than he should be. Read this:

http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/08/everything-you-need-to-know-about-justin-gatlins-drug-positives-before-his-showdown-with-bolt/

Please, you are openly supporting a sprinter caught using stimulants, whilst criticising Mo Farah for I'm not sure what?

Calling stimulants 'ADHD meds' is like calling EPO anemia medication.

Next doping positive was for some kind of steroid related substance.

Gatlin has been caught doping twice. Fact. You have completely dropped your criticism of doping cheats suddenly because an American won the 100m. It's disgraceful.

Then to somehow try and twist this around to criticise Farah, an athlete never formally accused of anything, is so low it's almost unbelievable.

I'm British - I'll be in the stadium on Wednesday to watch. I still love athletics in spite of the constant drugs controversies.

I didn't mind Gatlin winning. He deserved it. He has served his time and who knows if he is doping now, same as everyone else.

What I do object to is the BBC showing such adoration to Bolt and Farah without even the faintest trace of suspicion, when there is some fairly damning circumstantial evidence.

It's like the Emperor's new clothes - and Cram for one is happy to imply drug use about other athletes when it suits him.

El Keniano wrote:

Steve Cram and his crew are to blame for our reaction. Instead of being cognisant of the power that comes with their position and wielding it responsibly, they whip the public into a frenzy of hate and vindictiveness, making them bay for blood like the mobs of ancient Rome, whilst ignoring controversies around their own home favourites like Farah and Ohurogou.

What international feed do you have? Right now I'm listening to Steve Ovett, Peter Mathews and a female who seems to know her stuff (not Paula).

Stop the crap wrote:

This thread is ridiculous. If Bolt wins it's because he's doping. But when a 35 year old who's been previously caught for doping wins, he's clean and everyone should respect him for coming back from adversity? No logic flaws to see here.

Can't you just admit you are happy because an American won and you really want that to be ok, so you'll make up any pathetic excuse for anything he's ever done or currently doing because you want an American to win? If Gatlin was Jamaican none of you would be ok with his past doping and you'd be highly suspicious of his ability to win at 35. Just pathetic and intellectually dishonest.

except im not an american.

btw, it works the other way around, too. If Gatlin wins it is because he has used doping 15 years ago. But that bolt has beaten Gatlin and Blake and all the other dopers time and time again was because he is a naturally gifted athlete that just has not-of-this-world talent.

Now THATS intellectual honesty, thats logically UNFLAWED. lol

Geoff Roberts wrote:

I'm British - I'll be in the stadium on Wednesday to watch. I still love athletics in spite of the constant drugs controversies.

I didn't mind Gatlin winning. He deserved it. He has served his time and who knows if he is doping now, same as everyone else.

What I do object to is the BBC showing such adoration to Bolt and Farah without even the faintest trace of suspicion, when there is some fairly damning circumstantial evidence.

It's like the Emperor's new clothes - and Cram for one is happy to imply drug use about other athletes when it suits him.

I'm British and a Londoner. I'm going on Monday Tuesday and Wednesday. I love athletics.

I was disappointed to see Bolt lose, but didn't mind that it was Gatlin Vs Coleman or anyone else that won.

What I do mind, is this website, reportedly the site run by 'journalists' that hold drug cheats to the sword, celebrating the victory of a twice convicted doper that shows no remorse for his actions.

The BBC is well within its rights to point out and shame for the public those that have cheated and damage the reputation of the sport.

What do you want Cram to say about Farah exactly? Here is the athlete who's coach has been accused of perhaps breaking the rules in some manner of which nobody is sure of and maybe Farah is one of those athletes that has benefited from these violations but we aren't sure and nobody has any decent evidence to suggest he has? It's madness. Only on Letsrun is it ok to call people drugs cheats before they are caught. In the real world that's called libel and you'll be sued like fck.

The BBC is the British Broadcasting Corporation. It is a company funded by the British public and produces content geared towards the British public. I couldn't give a shit that it doesn't present athletics in an entirely balanced and neutral manner, I'm very pleased that they focus on British athletes. I especially couldn't give a shit that it fails to suck off all the American athletes like they do on this site, especially Gatlin and the likes of Kerley etc.

Cram went through a phase of pointing out every drugs violation by every athlete but clearly someone told him to stop, so don't think Cram is only pointing out those he wants to. He said himself that other athletes out there aren't getting booed when they are drug cheats also.

Subway Surfers Addiction wrote:

El Keniano wrote:

Steve Cram and his crew are to blame for our reaction. Instead of being cognisant of the power that comes with their position and wielding it responsibly, they whip the public into a frenzy of hate and vindictiveness, making them bay for blood like the mobs of ancient Rome, whilst ignoring controversies around their own home favourites like Farah and Ohurogou.

What international feed do you have? Right now I'm listening to Steve Ovett, Peter Mathews and a female who seems to know her stuff (not Paula).

That would be Olympic 400m bronze medalist, Katherine Merry. That's the feed we're getting on TV as well. Cram and his crew on BBC iPlayer via VPN.

rojo wrote:

It's weird but I respect Gatlin.

It isn't weird, you're just biased

The guy served a 4 year suspension. In the NFL, you serve a 4 game suspension. To sit out that long and come back isn't easy.

If this was Bolt coming back from a suspension you wouldn't be taking that line...

It amazes me that a wheel stadium will boo him but they are mad crazy about MO Farah whom there are many questions about. That's why the title to this thread is PERFECT. Life is messy/complicated

... you'd be leading the boos

Cheat or not,

Errr...

you've got to admit Gatlin was clutch tonight. Two years ago, Gatlin got tense and beat himself. Tonight, he stol it from Coleman and Bolt. I had written Gatlin off after his semi.

Well done Gatlin. Now get the f*ck out of the sport.

El Keniano wrote:

Steve Cram and his crew are to blame for our reaction. Instead of being cognisant of the power that comes with their position and wielding it responsibly, they whip the public into a frenzy of hate and vindictiveness, making them bay for blood like the mobs of ancient Rome, whilst ignoring controversies around their own home favourites like Farah and Ohurogou.

Bet you wish they'd do something about the massive issues in East Africa that continue to destroy the sport too?

Oh wait....don't look over there Sebby boy, stick to Farah.

800ftw. wrote:

Gatlin has been caught doping twice. Fact. You have completely dropped your criticism of doping cheats suddenly because an American won the 100m. It's disgraceful.

+1

And he sued against his punishment and never showed any regrets. Disgusting.

Bolt flew too close to the sun.