Official 2016 NYRR Millrose Games Live Discussion Thread

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

Lapped runners need to hold their line in lane 1, not move to the outside. Also, be aware if the leaders are coming around and do not pass if this is the case.

That would be ideal. And difficult to enforce. It's courtesy and common sense, but when running at max few think or judge clearly, and the rule seems to be like those of driving--if you hit someone from behind you are at fault--so the faster runners have to be aware. In the old days on 10 to the mile (and 11 and 12) things were only worse.

Hard to know when to pull a runner BEFORE they are lapped. It could even be used as strategy to eliminate folks, in super rare cases (run insane pace to eliminate others, or have a teammate do so). Simply put, it's complicated to come up with a rule or approach that satisfies one and all. What if two runners racing for first come up on two runners racing for bronze in a major competition? See, it's simple only in hindsight.

They are never going to learn, yet I am astounded every time..

Completely forgot about Millrose, has Abbey run yet?

or maybe... wrote:

When are people going to learn to stop celebrating before the line? Hilarious that it happens all the time, but you'd think eventually people would start to get it...

Unbelievable. Do all that work to win and give it away for what? The look of easing through the line?

Portlandian wrote:

Are we gonna get a whole bunch of Hasay getting lapped and DFLs again?

Hasay "ran" a 4:49 mile earlier this year. Why is she even allowed in a race like this? She was a good collegiate runner like 5 years ago. She is a slow professional.

I was impressed with Jenkins, he might have had the fastest last lap and certainly could have run at least 7:38 if the pace didn't slow up in the last 1/3rd. That's very solid for a guy just out of college. He might scare 13:00 this summer. He may go to the Olympics in the 5000. Really, Hill, True & Mead look good but assuming Rupp doesn't do the 5000 Jenkins is looking like a strong darkhorse.

Natasha Hastings flies over two laps!

Congrats to Mo Ahmed's 7:40:11 which breaks Kevin Sullivan's Canadian record of 7:40:17

Wow what a 3k!!

Here a few quick tidbits from the 3k guys. We'll upload the videos later.

When I asked Hill if he considered himself right now to be the world's best 3000 guy given the fact he ran a world leader and closed faster than Mo Farah did, he was very good at saying he still had a lot of work to do. He said that he barely beat Hassan Mead and Hill said Mead would admit he doesn't have the best wheels.

As for Mead, he wanted to PR and win but had to settel for th PR. HE was pretty upbeat about things.

We asked Jenkins what it was like to beat Ches since there was some controversy last year at NCAAs over whether Ches let him win. Jenkins said all of the right things about focusing on the whole field but when we asked him directly if this proved he really was gthe 3k champ from NCAAs he said, "I don't know if he can let me won today."

Jager said that he had a calf injury in early january that kept him from running for 7-8 days and totally out of running workouts for 3 weeks. When he wasn't running, he was able to cross train on the elliptical and bike but said he was playign catchup the whole time they were in flagstaff. He said he was very frustrated to get his butt whipped in practice each and every day and had to take a step back and realize that his teammates were some of the best guys in the world, not just your average teammate on a college team or something.

Cheserek said his primary goal was the NCAA qualifier but then said he also wanted the Oregon school record (which he got as he's now #2 all time at the NCAA). He said he'd like to get the collegaite record in the event but that will have to wait until next year.

AAE wrote:

Quit trolling...

So the Canadian Negro won, and the Chinaman was third. If Hutchings had said that, guess how many people would've been up in arms.

Go back to your safe space.

Meet record

Slow race king! wrote:

Ryan MF Hill wrote:

The name says it all

The name says it all.

Will Uceny fall again??!

kiowavt wrote:

Hard to know when to pull a runner BEFORE they are lapped. It could even be used as strategy to eliminate folks, in super rare cases (run insane pace to eliminate others, or have a teammate do so). Simply put, it's complicated to come up with a rule or approach that satisfies one and all. What if two runners racing for first come up on two runners racing for bronze in a major competition? See, it's simple only in hindsight.

It's really not that hard. It's standard practice in bike races. The lapping doesn't happen all at once. At the end, the leaders were going about 4s per lap faster than the slow runners, on 36s laps. That means it took a minimum of 9 laps for the lapping to happen. It wouldn't be hard to tell any runner who falls 24s down (still 3 laps away from being lapped) to get to lane 5 or step off the track.

And this can easily be a judgment call, so officials don't have to pull anyone if the leader is obviously going out at an unsustainable pace.

Poppy paula wrote:

Portlandian wrote:

Are we gonna get a whole bunch of Hasay getting lapped and DFLs again?

Hasay "ran" a 4:49 mile earlier this year. Why is she even allowed in a race like this? She was a good collegiate runner like 5 years ago. She is a slow professional.

Yes. She's done. In other news, Emily Infeld and Shelby Houlihan ran smokin' fast. 15:06 for Houlihan is a massive PR I think. And to think she's a 1500/800 specialist.

I think it's pretty darn simple:

-Only pull runners when the leaders have 2 laps to go (prevents that off strategy you mentioned)

-If the about-to-be-lapped-runners happen to be in contention for a medal, they aren't pulled and the "stay in lane 1" still applies. Keeping in mind the pulling of runners would only happen with 2 or less laps to go.

That all being said, NASCAR has been able to figure it out very successfully and they are traveling at 200mph... Lapped cars stay out of the preferred lanes, notified by the flagger above the finish line with a warning flag. The most important thing for lapped runners to keep in mind is to BE CONSISTENT. If you suddenly try and dodge out of the way in front of the leaders, bad things are bound to happen. Stay IN YOUR LANE and don't try to pass another runner.

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you da real MVP!

What a 3k. It was crazy to see cheserek pushing 7:40 pace and so many people moving up easily onto his shoulder. Lots of traffic in the race and still great times and depth. US running is in a great place right now

Rowbury can leave the breathright on and forget the makeup.

Can Rupp finish in the top two at USAs and qualify for Worlds in the 3? I think it's a toss-up.