Vhvygvygvyg wrote:
It was nice to see the Farah of old.
Competitive throughout the race, but not having the required finishing speed.
That's because his kick got stretched out. This means run a fast/hard pace and Farah's kick isn't as effective. You can beat that his competitors have noted this is how to beat Farah. Expect upcoming races where Mo will have to work extra hard to keep his sitting position. That is Farah's Achilles heel.
Here is the last day with Garrett, interview before the race and last training:
The two of you guys are as dumb as sh*t. Farah didn't win because this was cross country and he is not or has not ever been a cross country runner, it does not suit him and even less in the mud.
A faster pace will affect anyone's kick but no one out there can even run fast enough to blow him out enough. Sh*t, I could burn off Bekele if I was the form to run 26 flat but doing it is a different story. If you don't think a guy who ran 3:28 and 59 mid so close together can come close to running 26:30 and low 12:40's and still kick a 54/55 last lap, you are a complete moron! Who else can run that fast right now nevermind kick a last lap of under 55 off that pace? No one can and will.
Even in the Pre Classic with Farah sharing the lead and work with Tanui to try and run fast and Kamworor sitting in doing nothing, Farah demolished them over the last lap off a world lead time. Unless their is a guy hiding out there with 26:30 or 12:40 fitness or someone respected enough to bluff it but sacrifice their own chances (which won't happen as anyone who could pull off that bluff would have big medal chances), Farah will not be beat in a fast race because he will still outkick them all because he is just faster than them in every situation, he is in a different on the track and is one of the all time greats.
God Damms alls you Minnesota trolls with gay-love for Heath.
GO15 wrote:
The two of you guys are as dumb as sh*t. Farah didn't win because this was cross country and he is not or has not ever been a cross country runner...
Oh, my. Farah has run XC many times, and in fact he was champion at the race he lost in 2011 over Rupp.
"Between 2006 and 2009, before gold medals became Farah’s currency at world level, he won a gold and three silvers at the European cross-country championships. He had also won here in 2011, beating his training partner Galen Rupp."
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/09/mo-farah-great-edinburgh-cross-countryAgreed. The post Salazar Farah could perform his "wind up" kick from pretty much any pace. Certainly Fauble/Heath pace was not Bekele pace (so that was a slow pace)
It was funny to see Farah at 2k out trying to start his post Salazar wind up kick and then run out of gas not much after the start of it
correct.
That was literally the best July-August of Farah's life. He ran his fastest championship time in the 10k in winning two golds after recently running 3:28, again.
No, you are mistaken.
He had a good indoor season and a great outdoor season. He won the 5k and 10k at the 2015 WCs, I don't know if you watch athletics or not but that's the best possible result for the season just gone. He became the most decorated long distance runner of all time. You don't have to like him to accept his success on the track.
I don't know what the guy has to do to get a shred of credit around here.
For context, Garrett Heath has pr's of 3:34.12, 3:53, 7:37, 8:27i, 13:16, and I couldn't find a 10k pr. He was 9th in a US 1500m and 5000m final in different years. Two of his pr's were in 2015, but he may well break through at 5 or 10 this year. In an interview, he said he had just started doing explosive strength work this fall.
Dont hold your breath , Mo Farah is the most hated track n field athlete in the history of Letsrun.com
In about 7 months time He will double again in Rio and still wont get respect around here .. readers such as : Bad Wiggins, whatsfunny , alkenian and many more nearly have heart attacks everytime Mo wins a race LOL
tony the tiger wrote:
Dont hold your breath , Mo Farah is the most hated track n field athlete in the history of Letsrun.com
In about 7 months time He will double again in Rio and still wont get respect around here .. readers such as : Bad Wiggins, whatsfunny , alkenian and many more nearly have heart attacks everytime Mo wins a race LOL
What!!!! Mo lost a race, not won a race. Unless you count winning second place this last weekend as a "win."
race video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iahm9UsHXHY&list=FLsbP1kbt0DyKEsJALw1LLpQ
Heath is a Beast!
The UK announcers have mud in their mouth after kissing Mo's butt the entire race!
sdfgsdfgsdfgsdfgsdfgsererg wrote:
It's phenomenal how much personal hatred people on this website have for Farah, Rupp, Salazar, and co.
Yea, they push the limits of what's legal (and maybe beyond), and certainly aren't my favourite athletes, but I find myself rooting for them...
I often wonder about this. I definitely agree with your general gist.
The NOP is shady and spoiled. Despite this, I watch all of Galen's races and am always rooting for him to set ARs and/or compete for the win. When team Salazar announces what records his athletes plan on chasing throughout the indoor season, I find myself genuinely looking forward to those dates. For me, the BU Valentine Invite is more exciting than the Super Bowl.
Anyways, cheating sucks. NOP probably cheats. I admit that I fall into the camp that believes most athletes do, especially the very best. I wish it wasn't so, but I truly feel that it is. Does everyone here really believe that Rudisha, Kiprop, Bolt, Makh, etc are clean? Of course not. I would guess that most posters believe at least one of these men to be guilty (and with good reason). This belief makes hating specific athletes, such as Rupp, seem silly to me. Hate the game, not the player (so to speak).
I reckon in the grand scheme of things Mo getting beaten here was probably a good thing (for Mo). He leaves Edinbugh knowing he is not infallible. He knows he has to turn up the training wick to get the job done.
Had he left Edinburgh with a win, he would have been happy no doubt, but might he have risked dropping his training intensity by just a fraction in the assumed knowledge that he can win without really trying?
He'll travel to altitude camp now mightily p&$$ed off - and work his socks off to make sure it doesn't happen again this year.
As many have pointed out here, Mo placed 2nd in a XC race on a slow, hilly, muddy course that is not conducive to speed. He was beaten marginally by a very good athlete who was better on the day.
Of course he wanted to win but his sights are not set on winning a XC race that nobody will remember by the end of the year but rather on the Olympics in which he has a very strong chance of becoming the most decorated LD athlete of all time.
He is far from devastated and smoked yet!
Crctdtcftcffv wrote:
What the heck is happening to the Salazar guys?
Levins has run like sh&t since late June
Rupp has run like cr&p since late June
Mo was ok all summer, but now he is going backwards?
Cain didn't run well after last indoor season
What's changed?
They are all different ages. So they did not all get old at once...
It's not the drug allegations, since Salazar has said that he didn't do anything wrong (I mean accuse me of wrong doing and it will not affect me at all, since I didn't do anything wrong)
It's not as if they stopped taking specific PEDs, since as Salazar said himself, they are not on any PEDs
What is it?
Yeah it's just that they WERE ALL ON PEDS!!! Now that they're a bit more clean (albeit not totally), the normal restraints of being human kick in and they show that they're human and not nearly as good as Salazar wants you to believe.
Crctdtcftcffv wrote:
What the heck is happening to the Salazar guys?
Levins has run like sh&t since late June
Rupp has run like cr&p since late June
Mo was ok all summer, but now he is going backwards?
Cain didn't run well after last indoor season
What's changed?
They are all different ages. So they did not all get old at once...
It's not the drug allegations, since Salazar has said that he didn't do anything wrong (I mean accuse me of wrong doing and it will not affect me at all, since I didn't do anything wrong)
It's not as if they stopped taking specific PEDs, since as Salazar said himself, they are not on any PEDs
What is it?
Yeah it's just that they WERE ALL ON PEDS!!! Now that they're a bit more clean (albeit not totally), the normal restraints of being human kick in and they show that they're human and not nearly as good as Salazar wants you to believe.
larkimm wrote:
I reckon in the grand scheme of things Mo getting beaten here was probably a good thing (for Mo). He leaves Edinbugh knowing he is not infallible. He knows he has to turn up the training wick to get the job done.
Had he left Edinburgh with a win, he would have been happy no doubt, but might he have risked dropping his training intensity by just a fraction in the assumed knowledge that he can win without really trying?
He'll travel to altitude camp now mightily p&$$ed off - and work his socks off to make sure it doesn't happen again this year.
Hmmmm, that altitude camp Farah is headed to is located in Ethiopia, where Farah has stated the drug testing is lax.
come on, get real wrote:
He was beaten marginally by a very good athlete who was better on the day.
The win was not marginal by any means. Heath lead and challenged Farah to catch him. Farah tried but couldn't get the job done. Easy win for Heath.