Dibaba wins 1500 with last 800 of 1:56.92!!!! Bring on the triple.

So how much faster than the Monaco track is that one in Beijing?

It may not be correct officially, but I certainly see misnomer used far more often in the manner the called out poster used it than the grammatically correct way. It's definitely not confined just to the internet. I've seen it on news broadcasts and elsewhere used incorrectly.

I wouldn't call it bizarre, as it has happened plenty of times with other words, but you're right that it probably does stem from illiteracy...or at least lack of grammatical understanding.

In most cases I'd agree with you.

In this case the poster you quoted is LM, who happens to be a non-anonymous poster. Relevant only because I've seen few posters as open and forthcoming about being wrong as LM. Generally one of the few guys to consistently say "whoops, I f**cked up and was totally off base" when he is.

safrazap wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

El G and Abdi Bile have both closed slow 1500's in 1:46. I doubt either of them could have done better than 1:44 in an open 8.

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On a par with many other Bad conjectures. Bile's 800m PB is 1:43.65.

On a par with every other nitpicking jackass, you only prove my point. Bile runs about 1:44, and closed less than 3 seconds slower than his 800 ability. Dibaba did the same - or worse. Are you calling me wrong? No, you just can't pass up a chance to be a shithead.

So Bile (and likely El G) closed in 3+ seconds slower than their PBs. Adjusting upward for the slower times of the women: 1:56-4 = 1:52 (1:53 at the least)

Seems about right. Most guys running 3:48-3:50 can run at least 1:52.

Generally if a man and a women have the same time at a given distance, the man will have a slighly better time at the distance right below. Something to do with musculature and some other complex stuff which I'm not the most suited person to discuss.

It's just a fact. Therefore you can't really guarantee Dibaba a 1:52 with your 'theory'.

FIXED!! (see below)

rojo wrote:

Truly amazing.

Here is how i hand timed her last 800

57.47, 28.65, 30.80

SO what does that add up to?

So 1:56.92?? OMG!!!

Track is a Dirty Sport wrote:

And people still think that certain countries (see: East Africa) don't produce more genetic freaks and superstar talents for distance running than other countries???

Yup, it's true. I guess that's called "sour grapes" and refusing to accept reality, i.e. inferiority at anything.

Riiiiiiggghhtttt....some wonder drug that only poor Ethiopian runners could afford that American Nike runners cant get their hands on??

ask the questions wrote:

Diababa is clearly on something....she just ran one of the fastest 800s of the last 10 years.....at the end of a 1500.......

There is clearly some new drugs, or a huge coverup. Just smells funny to me. same thing with the steeple yesterday.....

no drug testing in ethiopia wrote:

What a joke, the first 4 finishers in that race don't even look winded. She just ran 1:57 last 800 and is smiling, not breathing, it is beyond ridiculous.

Are you new to athletics? This happens in every race. These are the top athletes in the world. Only amateurs or attention seekers flop around on the ground after a race.

And it's easy to be in pain and have a smile on your face when you've just become the world champion

I am not sure if you are naïve Renato or just an apologist for all the doping which is currently occurring in Kenya and Ethiopia. It is sad to see the sport being further tarnished by outlandish performances such as Dibaba's. I have more faith in cycling than in track and field currently in catching dopers. Someone mentioned it earlier, I think it is time for a truth and reconciliation within the track and field arena.

Still, Renato, Dibaba jogged it in. Had she not purposely slowed down like that, she would have closed over a second faster.

Quite simply, Genzebe Dibaba is the best thing to happen to the LetsRun community in some time. A little something for everyone:

1. Gives the dope hawks plenty of ammo

2. Her time trialing efforts this summer were a welcome break for those who aren't fans of "tactical races"

3. The manner in which she won a tactical championship race should satisfy those obsessed with closing speed

4. She's stunningly attractive

rojo wrote:

Truly amazing.

Here is how i hand timed her last 800

57.47, 28.65, 30.80

SO what does that add up to?

So 1:56.92?? OMG!!!

Unfortunately, she is too impressive. She actually slowed down as she approached the finish line and probably could have closed in 1:55. The last time I saw a female middle distance runner that dominant was the Chinese in the mid-90s when one of those athletes opened or closed a 1500 in 1:57. She definitely looks athletic, has good training and genetics, but I am starting to have doubts about her. This is ashamed because we are probably witnessing the greatest female middle distance runner ever.

jjjjjj wrote:

Still, Renato, Dibaba jogged it in. Had she not purposely slowed down like that, she would have closed over a second faster.

More like .2 or so. Look at what 2+3rd closed in. Those are crazy fast times also. If Dibaba wasn't in the rae we would be talking about how crazy fast those were.

Now some what similiar things have happened in the mens races before. Take El G and Bernie in 2004 or Bile at the world championships where the closed in mid 1:46s. You can debate how the opening 700ms (somthing like 2:06 for 800m guys in 1992 versus whatever the ladies did tonight)

Phantasy Star wrote:

Cringeworthy. Absurdly blatant cheating.

Really? I do not get these comments.

This woman has run 3:50 for 1500m... I'll repeat... [B/]3:50! They literally JOGGED the first 700m-- Dibaba was completely fresh starting the final 800m, so it was impressive but nothing unthinkable given her history. Also, two other women were not THAT far behind.

You guys compare her times to 'normal' world standards. Clearly, she isn't normal.

I bet that if she ran it fresh, she would run like 1:54-1:55 right now.

+1

brojos deleting posts discussing her possible doping. Yet again, we know where they stand on the issue. They "like" this particular athlete, therefore she "must" be clean.

Failures as journalists.

TrackCoach wrote:

. She definitely looks athletic, has good training and genetics, but I am starting to have doubts about her.

Exactly which genes are those? And when did she take a DNA test? And how did you see the results of that test? Are you two friends?

Oco wrote:

Exactly which genes are those? And when did she take a DNA test? And how did you see the results of that test? Are you two friends?

The genes that Genzebe shares with Tirunesh and Egigayehu. There are results in which DNA tests are not necessary.

geneticist wrote:

The genes that Genzebe shares with Tirunesh and Egigayehu. There are results in which DNA tests are not necessary.

Not to mention isn't she a cousin/niece of former Olympic champ Derartu Tulu?