Wilt chamberlain, Shaq o neal, Michael Jeffrey Jordan: question is, could one of these guys, in their prime, beat Lebron 1 on 1... in a fight? Discuss.
Wilt chamberlain, Shaq o neal, Michael Jeffrey Jordan: question is, could one of these guys, in their prime, beat Lebron 1 on 1... in a fight? Discuss.
I think Jordan has no shot. Assuming they both have zero fight training, Lebron tosses Jordan around at will. Shaq would be a physical presence, but I believe Lebron's speed advantage would prevail. Now Wilt is another story. Taller than Lebron, very fast and athletic. I'd give it to Wilt in a toss up.
I haven't followed this entire thread, but need to comment about strength.
Thirty years ago I drove cab in Daly City. One of the regular customers was an ex-boxer everyone called "Tiger."
He used to bar hop on Friday nights using cabs.
Tiger was in his sixties and weighed about 170 pounds.
One night he was so drunk he couldn't make it up his stairs so I gave him a hand. I had to grab him around the waist to steady him...the guy, even in his sixties, was built like a pit bull.
Professional boxers are incredibly strong.
I used to box (Just playing around) with a friend who had boxed in the Marines. We agreed to pull punches to the head, but could hit as hard as possible to the body. After 5-6 rounds of receiving body blows every punch hurt like hell. In a few months I got in incredible shape just screwing around like we were. We were both small guys..160 pounds.
As far as who would win the fight I have no idea.
Kipketer_Pumpkin_Eater wrote:
Wilt chamberlain, Shaq o neal, Michael Jeffrey Jordan: question is, could one of these guys, in their prime, beat Lebron 1 on 1... in a fight? Discuss.
Wilt vs Lebron would be close. Wilt was about 25 pounds heavier but Lebron is significantly more built. Shaq vs Lebron would probably be a murder. Shaq was about 75 pounds heavier in his prime. Absolutely gigantic.
imo, Shaq was the only big guy in NBA history to compare to Wilt's all-around athleticism and strength. Google for images, "wilt conan the barbarian arnold." Since Wilt's prime was such a long time ago, the old crappy quality video highlight reels and pictures often make him seem less intimidating than he actually was. But, there are still some good video highlight reels out there, where Wilt grabs a rebound and just slams that mother down, like he's wielding an axe on a battlefield. Also google images "wilt muhammad ali." lol
lanny poffo wrote:
With two guys with little to no grappling, the stronger guy with an extra 100lb of muscle who is pretty quick himself is at a huge advantage.
This is an example of your absurdity.
Lebron does not have an extra 100 lb of muscle. He might weigh 100 lbs more but it is not all muscle. He is also not really that quick. He appears quick because he is playing basketball against a bunch of clumsy 7ft tall players. Kyrie Irving is quick. Nate Robinson is quick. Lebron is quick for his size. There's a difference.
Lebron would flop and think a foul will help him win the fight.
Also--not to derail the discussion between LeBron and Mayweather--but I forgot to mention Lew Alcindor aka Kareem Abdul Jabaar, who should be mentioned because of his size, pre-eminence in basketball and reputed martial arts training with Bruce Lee. Of course, his championships, MVPs and--at least when I was growing up--long career and all-time leading scorer for NBA history--makes him an obvious choice as greatest big man, but imo with raw athletic ability, strength and basketball ability, Shaq and Wilt were better. Let me add him there--Lew Alcindor martial arts trained--prime or past his prime--versus LeBron. Who wins? Keep in mind, taking LeBron as he is, without any hypothetical added MMA training.
Another interesting hypothetical would be one of my favorite players back in the day, Larry Grandmama Johnson, who had a lot of strength and muscle and did some boxing. Certainly nowhere near as proficient and accomplished a boxer as Floyd Mayweather, but close to Lebron's mass. Probably little if any non-boxing fight training, too, but it would be very interesting. Those punches WOULD hurt LeBron (for those thinking the relatively dimunitive Mayweather is not gonna inflict any pain), and it would be a tossup when it gets to the ground.
Shaq wins easy. He has size and has been training BJJ and MMA for years.
Size doesn't matter. Check this out!
Lebron James can read. Floyd seems to be able to mumble his name and then read 4 letter or less words.....
The level of stupidity or trolling in this thread is amazing. Lebron would have zero shot at winning. I think mayweather could only use one hand and still win. How many fights do you think LeBron has been in? 1 or 2? Let's say for sake of argument he has been in 10 (highly doubtful but let's give him the benefit of the doubt). The average "fight" lasts about 1 minute with just a few blows.So at most LeBron has 10 minutes of fight experience. Mayweather probably had the fight experience of LeBron by 8th grade.
Mayweather has been in 46 professional fights. That does not count all the sparring and amateur fights that he has been in. most people are completely scared out of their mind to be in a fight. Mayweather would DESTROY him. People talk about reach advantage, etc. So what weather Mayweather hit him in the face or the kidneys, LeBron would be out cold.
This is about as a ridiculous claim as saying Mayweather could beat Lebron in a game of one on one basketball. But I'm sure some of you maybe believe that would happen as well.
The people who are picking LeBron or saying Lebron has a chance are clearly people who have never participated in boxing, martial arts, or any competitive fighting art at any significant level. The reason a person is as successful at boxing like Mayweather is a result of several things: 1) lightning fast reflexes that most people can't conceive of unless they have competed in fightting against really good competitors, 2) power driven by perfect physics in body mechanics, 3) experience - knowing how to move and how to get opponents off balance.
If Lebron tried to punch Mayweather, Floyd would have reacted and puched Lebron and moved out of the way before Lebron was even halfway through his punch. To all those "size matters" people, well no it doesn't matter so much that a non-experienced but athletic big guy would have any chance against a small world champion. But again these are the same people that think Lebron could run sub-10 or bench 500 lbs or that Jerry Rice can run a 14-minute 5K. Basically people who have no idea how hard any of these things are.
If LeBron has a few weeks to learn how to box, I'll go with him. Take him off the street and throw him in the ring, and I say the pro boxer finds a way to destroy "the King".