yawn...here come the clones wrote:
Countless no-name cookie-cutter africans running sub-2:05. At every marathon a new nameless clone comes out of the woodwork and wins it. At some point nobody will give a shit anymore about the marathon at the elite level.
Sad, unfair and perhaps true.
3:15 Elite wrote:
I think the current crop of 2:03 - 2:05 runners makes the marathon spectacular. Love the fact the japanese are knocking on the door too.
The Japs have been stuck at 2:08 since the '70's. Zillions of 2:09 guys and no standouts.
trackcoach wrote:
yawn...here come the clones wrote:Countless no-name cookie-cutter africans running sub-2:05. At every marathon a new nameless clone comes out of the woodwork and wins it. At some point nobody will give a shit anymore about the marathon at the elite level.
Sad, unfair and perhaps true.
indeed: sad, unfair and perhaps true.
i have talked to some really good marathoners and also a chief organizer of a competition. behind closed doors they are speaking exactly in this unsightly manner. they feel like racing against an unknown species and meanwhile they don´t care about sub 2:10 performances.
Every passing year people care less and less about the marathon as a sport. Those Kenyan clones are shooting themselves in the foot. STOP CLONING SO MANY KENYANS!!!!!
It's the doping that is killing the marathon, along with pretty much every other event in the sport of track and field.
How does doping kill the sport? It becomes the final differentiating factor among the very best as to who will edge out the other.
So, it's not so much the specialness of the individual, but rather the effect of the drug.
The rash of Kenyans running so fast over the marathon is testimony to the new mode of operation in Kenya, where doping has become the get-rich-quick card that many athletes, coaches, and agents are playing.
Obviously, it's been going on in Russia for decades. The US sprinters are notorious dopers.
Where there is money, there tends to be corruption. There's money in the marathon, now the sport has become infested with druggies.
smell the stink, wrote:
It's the doping that is killing the marathon, along with pretty much every other event in the sport of track and field.
How does doping kill the sport? It becomes the final differentiating factor among the very best as to who will edge out the other.
So, it's not so much the specialness of the individual, but rather the effect of the drug.
The rash of Kenyans running so fast over the marathon is testimony to the new mode of operation in Kenya, where doping has become the get-rich-quick card that many athletes, coaches, and agents are playing.
Obviously, it's been going on in Russia for decades. The US sprinters are notorious dopers.
Where there is money, there tends to be corruption. There's money in the marathon, now the sport has become infested with druggies.
Quit acting like the western world doesn't dope. Of course it does. Who is the world's most notorious doper? Mr Lance Armstrong. Totally foolish to think that Americans aren't doping too. East Africans are just faster at this time, period.
oh please wrote:
smell the stink, wrote:It's the doping that is killing the marathon, along with pretty much every other event in the sport of track and field.
How does doping kill the sport? It becomes the final differentiating factor among the very best as to who will edge out the other.
So, it's not so much the specialness of the individual, but rather the effect of the drug.
The rash of Kenyans running so fast over the marathon is testimony to the new mode of operation in Kenya, where doping has become the get-rich-quick card that many athletes, coaches, and agents are playing.
Obviously, it's been going on in Russia for decades. The US sprinters are notorious dopers.
Where there is money, there tends to be corruption. There's money in the marathon, now the sport has become infested with druggies.
Quit acting like the western world doesn't dope. Of course it does. Who is the world's most notorious doper? Mr Lance Armstrong. Totally foolish to think that Americans aren't doping too. East Africans are just faster at this time, period.
Smell the stink has it right. I did not read any suggestion the western world does not sore. Doping is happening everywhere just follow the money. The combination of genetics, life changing wealth for an east African and few controls in place for testing in that part of the world are the reason we see so many crazy fast marathoners coming from that part of the world.
Sorry...note "sore"......meant "dope"