Salazar/Rupp/Farah ... Looking for an unfair advantage

I haven't conceded that all of Alberto's athletes are on thyroid meds. I just don't want to go back and rehash the history and arguments, there is a thread from a few years ago that is a lot more credible than these recent ones -- with probably better information. I doubt they all are. And as that thread from some years pointed out there are many different types of thyroid conditions, and taking thyroid medicine when you don't need it is dangerous. Taking thyroid medicine when you do need it is tough business (I have experience with two family members who have had a very tough time getting dosages where they need to be to get the health results etc., it is not like popping a vitamin C and presto...so rather than take on each idiot that claims this or that and is not a Doctor...I go with what I know.

And that Alberto is an honest and ethical person. He's religious and serious, and would not take those kinds of risks. If he was someone taking those kinds of risks...you all would have never heard about Rupp's thyroid condition. The fact is, Alberto has always been open about what he does...which means...there is nothing but transparency. And honesty. To those of us the know Alberto, the idea of him being proactive in making sure his athletes get the best medical care, makes sense, the idea of him cheating...doesn't make sense...because that is not who he is as a person.

It is far more understandable that opinions are like aholes, everyone has one, and on the internet a bunch of idiots spouting out of their backsides like they know something or are experts, makes perfect logical sense. Jealous immature morons in the internet making sht up, is statistically far more likely than Alberto doing anything against the rules or even in gray areas. It's just not who he is. He got approval for the freaking altitude tents for crying out loud. He's proactive, but he is also a straight laced square who does things by the rules.

As to Rupp seeing a doctor in Houston. That is no big deal. NFL/Pro athletes fly all over the country to see the best knee or shoulder doctor or whatever. In fact the practice of seeing the current best recommended expert physician in the country is commonplace and has been for a long time in pro sports.

As to athletes leaving Alberto's coaching, each situation is individual, and I would take each athletes quotes at face value and for real. My guess in any worst case scenario is that if he felt like things weren't working out, or were not a fit, he would not hesitate tell an athlete it isn't working out and they are better off pursuing their own next situation. He doesn't strike me as the kind of person who is going to train as a large a group as Schumacher or others...

Who was Slaney's coach when SHE got busted?

Get really real wrote:

Who was Slaney's coach when SHE got busted?

BILL DELLINGER.

Cheaters.

That is not the case, Salazar was coaching her and he in FACT was responsible for the positive by giving her over the counter supplements that resulted in the elevated T/E ratio. Just as may be the case with his current athletes, Salazar sees unfairness everywhere he looks and thus ALWAYS pushes the limits of what is acceptable. Does anyone thing that Rupp did not have an unfair advantage while at Oregon? Salazar spent $1000s on Rupp for artificial altitude, travel to places like Boise for afternoon training sessions, etc, etc, etc. And this is fair? I assume it is the same with the current enhancement program, pushing athletes to the “acceptable” limits with thyroid med, artificial testosterone, etc. … In his mind he is just bringing them to levels that others have naturally. E

Even more troubling is Salazar’s rational … Here is a direct quote from a paper he wrote in 1999.

“If they had doped on the other hand they would have competed on a level playing field and would not have had any unfair advantage over those other top finishers that were doping. Sure there would be others that finished way back that did not dope, but they too had no chance or winning without doping.”

So, as the original post suggests, decide for yourself …

Get really real wrote:

Who was Slaney's coach when SHE got busted?

A Duck wrote:

BILL DELLINGER.

Good morning, Rip. Slaney's coach when she was busted was A-L-B-E-R-T-O S-A-L-A-Z-A-R.

I went ahead and fixed that Subject line for you.

A Duck, you're delusional!

Using the binomial distribution (you can do this on excel with the binomialdist function or use the formula yourself) the odds of all 3 people of a group of 3 having a condition that is present in 10% (the upper bound of your estimate) of the population is .001, or one out of a thousand. If the condition is present in 3 percent of the population (the lower bound) the odds of this occurring is .000027, or 3 out of 100,000. Perhaps distance runners develop the problem as a result of intense training, so their range is not 3-10% but much higher? If not, the likelihood of all three having the condition is, as we statisticians say in formal terms, baloney.

Rip Van Winkle wrote:

Get really real wrote:

Who was Slaney's coach when SHE got busted?

A Duck wrote:

BILL DELLINGER.

Good morning, Rip. Slaney's coach when she was busted was A-L-B-E-R-T-O S-A-L-A-Z-A-R.

Salazar was her coach at the time she was tested.

Is there drug testing at the ElliptiGO World Championships?

Butterycrescentrolls wrote:

Seriously do you any of you have ANY proof they're using thyroid medication? There was a mention one time when rupp was in college. Maybe he had a thyroid problem? There is no indication farah is using thyroid meds and no indication rupp is now either. What's with these stupid posts?

Lolz. Ask Goucher where she got her cytomel from.

The clock is still ticking, douche whistle. Perhaps it's time to create a new meme?

Yes wrote:

Butterycrescentrolls wrote:

Seriously do you any of you have ANY proof they're using thyroid medication? There was a mention one time when rupp was in college. Maybe he had a thyroid problem? There is no indication farah is using thyroid meds and no indication rupp is now either. What's with these stupid posts?

Lolz. Ask Goucher where she got her cytomel from.