ventolin^3 wrote:
deanouk wrote:I know about blood transfusions thank you!pretty obvious you haven't adminstered the 100+ which entitles you to some "expertise"
Whatever the poster did or did not mean, the fact remains that Ovett & Coe would have been tested a lot more than Ryun would have been. His logic that Ovett & Coe ran fast, were tested, and never failed one, therefore they must be using drugs; while Ryun didn't have any testing, despite there being ample drugs at the time in the US universities, therefore he was innocent, is completely without logic.
this isn't about ryun, whose mononucleosis is not a tranfusable illness
the queasiness is always about guy with toxoplasmosis, which is a transfusable illness
toxoplasmosis infection this severe in a healthy male woud likely involve wading in cat shit or being inadvertently "exposed" to "cheapskate" fluids instead of more "expensive" possible
autology...
Well, I'd hate you to be my GP, as you're not very well informed about it are you?
"Cats are the primary source of infection to human hosts although contact with raw meat, especially pork, is a more significant source of human infections in France and fecal contamination of hands is a significant risk factor."
"Up to one third of the world's human population is estimated to carry a Toxoplasma infection."
Does that mean a third of the world's population wades around in cat shit? Perhaps that is a common occurrence where you come from, but it doesn't happen in the vast majority of places. Does having travelled widely entitle me to that "expertise"?
It can be transmitted by "Ingestion of raw or partly cooked meat, especially pork, lamb, or venison containing Toxoplasma cysts. Infection prevalence in countries where undercooked meat is traditionally eaten has been related to this transmission method. Oocysts may also be ingested during hand-to-mouth contact after handling undercooked meat, or from using knives, utensils, or cutting boards contaminated by raw meat"
"In most adults it would lead to flu like symptoms for a few weeks, before recovery. But it can lay dormant and re-occur when the host's immune system is low or the body is put through rigorous and routine physical activity. This is accentuated if diagnosis and/or treatment is delayed"
Seems a pretty common condition if a third of the world's population has it, and an athlete is going to be putting a lot more stress on their body and immune system that most "ordinary Joes" who would probably rest up and recover after a few weeks off work.
There was no medical back up for British athletes in the early 1980's except the NHS, which isn't the most thorough of medical bodies. It's quite likely that the glandular fever Coe had in 82 was miss diagnosed and that he picked up toxoplasmosis then rather than in 83. Perhaps you were his doctor?
A colleague of mine had it and was off work for over a month. And she neither "waded through cat shit" (well, as far as I'm aware), nor had she been in hospital with an operation or for a blood transfusion.
But despite all these facts you would propose that a healthy British athlete must have got it through infected blood when cheating through blood doping. Lol.
And if a Kenyan athlete actually tested positive for an A sample, you'd automatically insist that it was miss handled or tampered with, wouldn't you?
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