Osama bin Laden is Dead

Obama most likely died 9 years ago of complications associated with kidney failure but others have claimed he died at various times before this most recent supposed. Frankly I no longer believe anything coming out of the mainstream media on anything associated with 911:

http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2011/05/sorry-but-i-dont-believe-this.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWXitiZyDto

flashback wrote:

Sorry yeuber, I didn't mean that for you, I meant to direct it at "if we had our say". I just erased the wrong part of the quote. My apologies.

Thanks for the response - no worries.

Is anybody on here glad the guy is dead?

I, for one, am glad, no matter who gets credit. Heck, let's give Osama the credit, just as long as he is dead.

Kevin Nelson wrote:

Obama most likely died 9 years ago of complications associated with kidney failure but others have claimed he died at various times before this most recent supposed. Frankly I no longer believe anything coming out of the mainstream media on anything associated with 911:

http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2011/05/sorry-but-i-dont-believe-this.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWXitiZyDto

You're an idiot. Check your tinfoil at, its cutting off the circulation to your brain.

I'm glad as hell that Osama is dead. That asshole would kill me, my family and everyone I know just because we are who we are. F*** him...

A recent news article reports “Osama bin Laden, the glowering mastermind behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that murdered thousands of Americans, was killed in an operation led by the United States, President Barack Obama said Sunday.”

And if you believe that it would take ten years for a superpower to hunt down someone who pulled off a major terrorist attack against them, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn, I’d like to sell you.

Bin Laden was the Boogeyman justifying a trillion dollar per year Defense budget, laws that undermined the Bill of Rights and “justified” our continued occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.

It’s not clear how much -if any- of the al Qaeda story, we’ve been told is true. Was bin Laden the leader of a faction of fighters, who helped drive the Soviets out of Afghanistan, who later turned against the West? Was bin Laden, an actor, who played a terrorist for the CIA? Did the CIA kill that actor when his usefulness was done?

We do know that an ex-president of Italy Francesco Cossiga and a former director of the US Army War College, Dr. Alan Sabrosky have both said that the 911 attack was an “inside job” by the CIA and Mossad. Israel was caught red-handed trying to recruit Arabs for a Mossad-run al Qaeda cell in Palestine. How hard would it have been for the Mossad to create al Qaeda cells in Egypt and Saudi Arabia to recruit the 911 hijackers?

Most likely, bin Laden’s body was taken from the freezer, he was being stored in, and thawed out this week so Barack Obama could have some spectacular headline to take public attention off his birth certificate –especially after that colossal blunder in which the nine editing layers in the Adobe pdf were accidentally left active and not “flattened out”.

There could be other reasons at work for bin Laden’s death to be announced at this time. The quagmire in Afghanistan is definitely getting worse, and it might be time to declare victory and beat a hasty retreat. We definitely can’t afford three wars at one time, which is exactly what we’re juggling right now.

If Obama is going to steal the Lybian oil fields, it might be good to shut down the Afghan war before we put boots on the ground in Lybia.

The only thing I can say for certain about “our” foreign policy is that very little the government tells us is the truth, and the beneficiaries are invariably Big Oil or Israel, and never the American public.

Ooops I forgot to cite my source. 4 goddam times!

http://www.davidduke.com/general/our-foreign-policy-has-been-mostly-based-on-lies-for-over-100-years_23646.html

No you are the idiot if you believe everything you read in the mainstream media. But they love people like you to marginalize and insult people who are willing to think critically. If you knew anything about you would realize that so many of the wars are based on false flag events, e.g. Battleship Maine, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin Incident, Reichstag. Also, google James Bamford and Operation Northwoods or the USS Liberty. You will see that things are not always as they seem to appear. The 911 Commission Report. Even John Farmer (former attorney general of NJ) and one of the authors of the report admitted that it was highly distorted and inaccurate. In addition to issue of the claims about Bin Laden, there are other suspicious things that happened on 911 including an ususual number of put options on certain stocks, the chemical residue of nanothermite in the buildings (look up Stephen Jones and Judy Woods), the fact that WTC #7 which was not even hit by a plane went down similar to a controlled demolition. Airline jet fuel can does not generate enough energy to cause molten steel or pulverize concrete and for the buildings to go down at approximately free falling velocity, all the supporting columns would have to simultaneously severed. BTW, where is the footage of the plane hitting the pentagon and why did the FBI confiscate all the surveillance tapes and shred air traffic control tapes?, why was the wreckage of Flight 93 scattered over 8 miles if it merely crashed into the ground? and why were they conveniently conducting war game simulations on 911,e.g. Operation Northern Vigilance so the air traffic controllers did not know if there are simulations or real events? Look by Project Able Danger or Bojinka to learn that 911 was not the total surprise they claimed it was--in fact we were warned by many governments before they happened.

You should probably get some counseling before you allow your fantasies to cause you to harm yourself or someone else. Seriously.

The conspiracy theorists now have a new topic; "Bin Laden isnt' really dead"

Unfortunately people like you seem to be in the majority, including many so-called intellectuals. It is easier and safer to believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny rather than question iconoclastic beliefs such as the apparent recent death of Bin Laden. However, I don't really give a f*** what other people think about my opinions. Actually, I am open minded and have not been given enough information to be able to offer a good counter hypothesis that would be accurate. I just know that there is little or no accountability as to how my tax dollars are being used to fight these wars that apparently are unconsistitutional, illegal by international statutes, and have no apparent end or exit strategy. If Bin Laden was found he should have been captured not executed since he was apparently unarmed--he should have been given due process and tried in the world court rather than media circus--let the evidence and the facts fall where they are--if he guilty he could be executed in the same fashion as the Nuremburg war criminals.

Many people including even non "conspiracy" theorists believe he is dead but died from natural causes, perhaps end stage renal disease or Marfans syndrome. However, we are supposed to accept the word of the government as gospel in the absence of any validating evidence such as a body which is somewhere in the ocean and DNA evidence. For me, that is not good enough.

um...RU KIDDING.....Im sure your "source: (i.e. DAVID DUKE . COM ) is truly the epitomy of investigative journalism...hahahahaha

Kevin Nelson wrote:

Many people including even non "conspiracy" theorists believe he is dead but died from natural causes, perhaps end stage renal disease or Marfans syndrome. However, we are supposed to accept the word of the government as gospel in the absence of any validating evidence such as a body which is somewhere in the ocean and DNA evidence. For me, that is not good enough.

Politicians tell lies? You don't say.

But you are believing conspiracy theory nonsense.

Are you going to tell me that the US didn't put men on the moon too?

cdakj wrote:

sohcahtoa wrote:

Saying Obama isn't responsible for the death of Usama Bin Laden is like saying Usama Bin Laden wasn't responsible for running airplanes into a building in New York.

You hit it on the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These right wing wackos are funny. Do you think if this happen on Bush's watch that the right would not thank Bush?

Right-winger here, and you are wrong. I think Obama is due some thanks for OBL's death. However, I think it is deplorable how people are trying to use this as a R vs. D issue.

I also am very tired of defending my side from the unending onslaught from the left on this issue. It is not a political issue between the parties. Heck, most prominent conservatives have thanked Obama and given him the credit he is due. Of course, that is never enough for some people.

I don't have time to address all your baseless accusations (and believe me, they ARE baseless). But I do have time to tell you that I'm an engineer who has had training in structural mechanics and I know enough to tell you that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to structural mechanics. The most idiotic statement is about "melted steel". Steel framed buildings don't have to melt to fall down, thermal expansion and weakened steel (from the heat) will more than do the trick. Lemme guess, are you a philosophy major or something? Because I find that the percentage of people who believe in that bullshit conspiracy crap dramatically increases the farther away you get from the engineering building and generally peaks when you step into the philosophy building. F*** you're face you stupid POS.

FYI I have a BA (economics), MA (liberal studies with a geology concentration), MPH (epidemiology), Ph. D (Biostatistics). I am hardly an authority in engineering but I am well trained in critical thinking. You may have an engineering but the fact that you have to continuing resort to juevenile name calling and personal insults suggests that you are probably completely secure with herself or knowledge on this subject matter. Thankfully, not all scientists are in agreement with mainstream theories. Rather than swap more name calling, I will refer you to the finally links that hopefully enlighten you a bit:

http://www.ae911truth.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMhl-S5MyAc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsFeIgngbfE&playnext=1&list=PLE9AEC7CA7F8BB5E2

Since these people are more likely to have authoritative knowledge on this subject than myself I will let you be the judge but based on your previous posts, I doubt whether you are open-minded enough to read and study this material. In your defense, it would probably take you a long time to unlearn what you and most others have been indoctrinated to believe in.

I also refer you to

http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

The issue is not just a physics and stuctural engineering problem but the events need to also be evaluated in their historical and geopolitical contexts. Learning this material requires a lot of work and not all claims and necessarily true but it is a lot easier to label someone a wingnut or conspiracy theorist than to do the work and be objective.

Racehorse wrote:

Right-winger here, and you are wrong. I think Obama is due some thanks for OBL's death. However, I think it is deplorable how people are trying to use this as a R vs. D issue.

I also am very tired of defending my side from the unending onslaught from the left on this issue. It is not a political issue between the parties. Heck, most prominent conservatives have thanked Obama and given him the credit he is due. Of course, that is never enough for some people.

No, actually it IS political. Politics is all about priorities. Obama made it a priority to get bin Laden. Bush made Iraq his priority - he fought the Taliban indirectly by providing air cover for the Northern Alliance and he trusted Pervez Musharraf to handle the Pakistani side of the border. And he sent the message loud and clear that he wasn't concerned about bin Laden which meant many allies lowered their priorities too.

Of course Obama didn't start from square one but he's the one who focused the right people and resources on the job. If he had merely continued the Bush policies (as the Palin-Limbaugh-Beck-Racehorse line goes) Osama would still be kickin' it with his wives and kids in Abbottabad.