THAT WAS AWESOME. So inspiring. That race was definitely better than a PR. He knows that he can finish. He did it at USA's last year in a 13:20 race. Now he knows he can finish in 55 (or better if they started from 400 out) in a sub 13 race. Such a great race. I'm so pumped right now. Wow that was amazing. If Solinsky actually improves next year he can be thinking about the gold medal. If he misses gold against the Bekeles, Sihine, etc. he will medal. CHRIS SOLINSKY WOW.
yeah nice job to Mo as well... i saw him run his road 10k record earlier this year... too bad chris thomson kinda tanked
How many total sub-13:00s does Lagat have?
w dfasd f wrote:
Rupp fell over his absent ego again.
Fixed for you. If you are going hate on someone, find a legit reason.
Rupp has absolutely no ego so this doesn't work.
If you get off on someone with no ego having a bad race, good on you.
Definitely Solinsky's best run of the year.
3rd place. We get so caught up on time. Rupp was 12th. Yes he's getting better but has a ways to go.
Solinsky is there but now the year is over.
diceman cometh wrote:
Get Real Real wrote:Solinsky blew it by not going after the lead when he knew they were behind USA record pace...
Please never, ever post again. Solinksy didn't "blow" anything. You have no idea what it takes to race at that level, much less to walk the razor's edge to actually a race a sub 13. Solinsky was there to race. He was not there to play the role of tragic-sacrificial-lamb-Pre guy who leads the race and gets smoked the final 400m.
Fantastic run by Solinsky- smart, composed, focused, and he kicked well off of a respectable pace. Should be yet another confidence booster in what has easily been the most impressive summer of racing by an American male distance runner ever.
And a solid run by Rupp as well- a 3 second or so PB? Not the sub 13 I'm sure he was hoping to run, but some solid experience nonetheless.
He got boxed and bounced and for a large guy did not protect his space until after the first few bounces - only then did he push back to protect his running lane.
Re-watch the race. He was breathing comfortably, running smooth, did not seem maxed, but did not want to take it to the field in the last 600.
Pre comparisons are not relevant. I did not say he should push it with a mile to go.
Re-Watch the race. He was indecisive.
Almost everyone here posts about WINNING and to do that you have to seize the moment, and go for it.
He had more in him.
Slightly smarter running and he would have had the AR.
He'll probably tell you that himself.
This is still a new experience for him, he's still learning what it is like to be in mix that late...and so he'll have to learn to run in traffic at that pace, and when to make a winning move and go for it.
Solinsky put the FEAR in Merga and dusted EVERY KENYAN in the race. Legendary.
Did you notice who was right ahead of Rupp in 11th? Eliud Kipchoge, former world champion and this year's fastest at 12:51!
Wallet Inspector wrote:
Rupp got his best. 13:07 is a fast time and not something too many Americans have achieved. It is also a logical improvement. He is not going to jump from 13:10 to 12:57. Mo Farah on the other hand...what a race for him!
Solinky has to work on that final 800. T. Bekele made that move and just hung on. Solinsky tied just enough for Merga to motor past for 2nd. You cannot fault one spec of CS's race. He is making American history right now...sweet!
Great run by Mo.
Yes, logical next step for Rupp.
And YES, CS needs to work on that final 800. I think when you guys watch a replay of the race, he makes a few mistakes in the last 1000k, getting boxed, bumped, stalled, instead of protecting his running space/lane. If that last 1k goes perfect and smooth for him, he gets the AR.
To be so close and not get it?
By his own quote the time is a failure and points him to the 10.
He WANTED to run 12:50
Get Real Real wrote:
Great run by Mo.
Yes, logical next step for Rupp.
And YES, CS needs to work on that final 800. I think when you guys watch a replay of the race, he makes a few mistakes in the last 1000k, getting boxed, bumped, stalled, instead of protecting his running space/lane. If that last 1k goes perfect and smooth for him, he gets the AR.
To be so close and not get it?
By his own quote the time is a failure and points him to the 10.
He WANTED to run 12:50
The opinion of a clown.
Missed the race so I'm not sure how it played out. But 13:07 strikes me as an outright disappointment for Rupp, even if it was a PB. The conditions looked good enough. The pace was presumably good enough for him. I really expected him to break 13 and if not that, run in the range of 13:02.
w dfasd f wrote:
Rupp fell over his massive ego again.
What the f*** is the matter with you people? The guy just ran a PR, 13:07 at that. A tremendous race for Rupp.
Ryan Foreman wrote:
Missed the race so I'm not sure how it played out. But 13:07 strikes me as an outright disappointment for Rupp, even if it was a PB. The conditions looked good enough. The pace was presumably good enough for him. I really expected him to break 13 and if not that, run in the range of 13:02.
Pace was kind of erratic. I agree it wasn't Rupp's best day, but still a solid run for him.
just got home...wow! Great race by both Americans! Chris is the real deal...and Galen continues to impress!...so proud of them!
Absolutely Right Dude! He nearly took Merga down. You could see him scramble like hell not to let it happen after Chris pulled even and slightly ahead. And Bekele - what are you going to do against someone like him? He made it look so damn easy pulling away like that! Chris really powered that last 300 though! Amazing effort by both he and Galen!
Rupp is done.
It was his best day, as he's never run faster.
The pace wasn't erratic--they went out hard. They hit the first 5-6 laps at 12:40-45 pace, and then things slowed down for 2-3 laps. (64, 65, 64).
Not super surprising to see Rupp drop off a bit--he needed something paced a little slower to get in the 13:00-13:05 range. Had they gone out at 12:50-55 pace for the first 2-3k, Rupp likely would have been able to hold on a little better. He was with the lead pack through 3k.
Rupp passes Goucher on the U.S. list.
12:54.12 Bernard Lagat (Nike) 06/04/10
12:55.53 Chris Solinsky (Oregon TC) 08/06/10
12:56.27 Dathan Ritzenhein (Nike) 08/28/09
12:58.21 Bob Kennedy (Nike) 08/14/96
12:58.56 Matt Tegenkamp (Nike) 09/04/09
13:01.15 Sydney Maree (Puma) 07/27/85
13:07.35 Galen Rupp (Oregon TC) 08/19/10
13:10.00 Adam Goucher (Nike) 07/22/06
13:10.86 Alan Webb (Nike) 09/04/05
13:11.77 Meb Keflezighi (Nike) 08/05/00
Malmo- thank you!! for this post and the previous!
malmo wrote:
w dfasd f wrote:Rupp fell over his massive ego again.
What the f*** is the matter with you people? The guy just ran a PR, 13:07 at that. A tremendous race for Rupp.
just mover wrote:
Rupp passes Goucher on the U.S. list.
12:54.12 Bernard Lagat (Nike) 06/04/10
12:55.53 Chris Solinsky (Oregon TC) 08/06/10
12:56.27 Dathan Ritzenhein (Nike) 08/28/09
12:58.21 Bob Kennedy (Nike) 08/14/96
12:58.56 Matt Tegenkamp (Nike) 09/04/09
13:01.15 Sydney Maree (Puma) 07/27/85
13:07.35 Galen Rupp (Oregon TC) 08/19/10
13:10.00 Adam Goucher (Nike) 07/22/06
13:10.86 Alan Webb (Nike) 09/04/05
13:11.77 Meb Keflezighi (Nike) 08/05/00
Goucher and Webb don't have PRs reflective of their talents though, I'm sure both of them could go 10-15 seconds faster if their situations played out differently.